Martial Arts / Self Defence

[Chan110]

As much as i like Tai Chi i like more the gentle and peaceful art from Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido

Is that the Steven Seagal art (he S a Russian national now)!

[Ootohere]

I had not seen anything on that, but watching some stuff now on youtube.

[mac11irl]

Aikido is an art based off Katana forms. It is pretty good, but depends ojjvxx§fn the dojo again... some can be a bit "display" oriented with some very energetic landings for the aggressor. And if you get used to that sort of result its quite difficult to adjust when your opponent doesnt do a somersault when you carry out a technique...

Edit - not knocking it, its very good for learning about using inertia/momentum and gravity in our favour.

Edited 14 December, 2016 by mac11irl

[mikejay]

32 years in goju ryu. No matter what style of martial arts you do you still have to have it switched on in your head to fight and not flight when in a situation you can't get out of. I have seen it far to many times, people with all the skill in the world in the dojo but when the **** hits the fan it all gos out the window.

[Chan110]

32 years in goju ryu. No matter what style of martial arts you do you still have to have it switched on in your head to fight and not flight when in a situation you can't get out of. I have seen it far to many times, people with all the skill in the world in the dojo but when the **** hits the fan it all gos out the window.

Agree!

[Ootohere]

& when a drunk or maniac comes at you, you can break their thumb, dislocate their wrist, and they will still try to kill you, you can shove their nose in their face and have then drowning in their own blood.

Knocking them cold and breaking their knee is an option, choking or throttling them is pretty good, but just remember when in court if taken there you are the one trained in Martial Arts / Self Defence and they were a harmless drunk, little person, gentle giant, never harm a fly, just a guy or girl on a night out never been in trouble in their lives.

 

You are still alive though.  Get soap on a rope for Christmas.

 

Many moons ago i had hair, now i am twice the size and no hair, 

but i loved the days and nights training and out on the doors. 

Edited 14 December, 2016 by Offski

[pee81]

I did Tae Kwan Do (TAGB) for 7 years before going to uni, the club was great and we had a decent spread of instructors including the current world champion at the time. It was brilliant and ranged from some family friendly sessions through circuit training to full contact sparring if you wanted it. I tried the uni club when I went there and the atmosphere was very different so I binned it off, as others have said it doesn't really matter which art you do, it's more about the attitude and atmosphere of the club, make sure you have a look around a few places and chat to the members / parents.

 

I switched to Jeet Kune Do for 3 years in the end (Bruce Lee's Kung Fu without form), it was bloody brilliant but not very family friendly as it was all full contact. I haven't trained for over 10 years now though but I'm getting the itch to re start something

I used to be a member of the tagb for around 10years until I changed jobs and then that took up my time :-(

[Chan110]

& when a drunk or maniac comes at you, you can break their thumb, dislocate their wrist, and they will still try to kill you, you can shove their nose in their face and have then drowning in their own blood.

Knocking them cold and breaking their knee is an option, choking or throttling them is pretty good, but just remember when in court if taken there you are the one trained in Martial Arts / Self Defence and they were a harmless drunk, little person, gentle giant, never harm a fly, just a guy or girl on a night out never been in trouble in their lives.

You are still alive though. Get soap on a rope for Christmas.

Many moons ago i had hair, now i am twice the size and no hair,

but i loved the days and nights training and out on the doors.

Lol

U mean I will lose all my lovely thick flowing hair once I start martial arts????

[mac11irl]

Lol

U mean I will lose all my lovely thick flowing hair once I start martial arts????

Yup

[VRS Mike]

out of interest why are you suddenly interested in taking up a martial art?

[Chan110]

Getting old, want some fitness, self defence, learn with kids (want them to start as well)

Mainly always wanted too, it's now or never!

I did TKD about 10 years ago

Sustain a lot of injuries

More so now getting on a bit :(

[Chan110]

Yup

Eeeek!

Starting to have a bald patch already due to age I think...

Got high blood pressure too

A little over weight, thanks to regular exercise - but not lately :(

[VRS Mike]

Getting old, want some fitness, self defence, learn with kids (want them to start as well)

Mainly always wanted too, it's now or never!

I did TKD about 10 years ago

Sustain a lot of injuries

More so now getting on a bit :(

 

Ah fair enough, I want to get my kids involved in martial arts but neither are interested. I did Judo and Karate as a kid, more recently done boxing and Muay Thai. I want my kids to be able to defend themselves, or at the very least be able to react if put in a situation, they are only 9 and 7 so they may like the idea of it when they are a bit older.

[Chan110]

Ah fair enough, I want to get my kids involved in martial arts but neither are interested. I did Judo and Karate as a kid, more recently done boxing and Muay Thai. I want my kids to be able to defend themselves, or at the very least be able to react if put in a situation, they are only 9 and 7 so they may like the idea of it when they are a bit older.

Deffo!

Get them hook early as there are so many benefits - fitness, health, past time, achievements, new friends etc

As they get older they might have own interest and also no time

[mac11irl]

Couple of things i realised and used when i started teaching kids classes so worth looking for when you go for a look -

Make sure siblings dont partner up. It makes them socialise, but need to be paired with a kid thats been training maybe 6weeks longer, and is similar size. It encourages faster learning and enjoyment while reducing the devolvement into just messing around. So theres a better chance theyll stick with it. Also, they should stay with that same partner for the first 6ish weeks, then they become the "senior" partner if a another new kid joins. After that 6weeks, they should be changing partners at least once during a class. The same partner gets them comfortable with the class then the changing around helps them learn that not everyone is the same with the same reactions

Just my 2p on it, it seemed to work with our lot!

Edited 15 December, 2016 by mac11irl

[Chan110]

Couple of things i realised and used when i started teaching kids classes so worth looking for when you go for a look -

Make sure siblings dont partner up. It makes them socialise, but need to be paired with a kid thats been training maybe 6weeks longer, and is similar size. It encourages faster learning and enjoyment while reducing the devolvement into just messing around. So theres a better chance theyll stick with it. Also, they should stay with that same partner for the first 6ish weeks, then they become the "senior" partner if a another new kid joins. After that 6weeks, they should be changing partners at least once during a class. The same partner gets them comfortable with the class then the changing around helps them learn that not everyone is the same with the same reactions

Just my 2p on it, it seemed to work with our lot!

Good advice!

Never thought about that!

Thanks!

[LHVRS]

Have trained in muay thai since I was a kid and had my share of fights so can recommend it. You learn the basics of how to throw a punch,kick,knee,elbow and how to block and clinch, then its all about getting your fitness up and and staying clam/relax in sparing.

 

Also recommend running as its a great self defence if you on your own and out numbered or can avoid what could be a bad situation. 

[Chan110]

Have trained in muay thai since I was a kid and had my share of fights so can recommend it. You learn the basics of how to throw a punch,kick,knee,elbow and how to block and clinch, then its all about getting your fitness up and and staying clam/relax in sparing.

Also recommend running as its a great self defence if you on your own and out numbered or can avoid what could be a bad situation.

Nice

But not sure yet if I can handle MuayThai with my injuries :(

I cant run

Since falling over in a car park, everytime I run/jog for more than 5mins I get bad pain in my right leg :(

But jogging at home / indoors on soft mat/carpet is ok though....

[mac11irl]

Good advice!

Never thought about that!

Thanks!

Nobody really does unless youve stood in front of 25-30 borderline ADHD kids on a saturday afternoon, aged 18 being given teaching experience by youre instructor in advance of a second dan grading! Its amazing how many parents will turn up and be all "my tom is a bit shy, so he mightnt really get involved, and just watxh this week if thats okay" and hell sit there on his own. but as soon as mam n dad are gone ( under advice and sometimes against their will...) out of sight tom gets stuck in after watching for less than 5mins.. suddenly that kid goes from being the introvert who doesnt do sports (football, rugby or whatever) to proving himself as a more than capable individual sport kid - that was me!

[lol-lol]

Anyone doing Martial Arts?

Just wondering what arts is effective on our UK streets these days?

Been looking at:

1. Tae Kwon do

2. Karate

3. Brazilian JuJitSu

4. Krav Maga

5. Filipino Martial Arts

6. Silat

7. MMA?

Any one particular for a not so fit person or children?

Cheers

 

Aikido I would say for several reasons.

 

The techniques are not so dependant on the size of the attacker or defender compared to many of the others martial arts.

 

Aikido is often the basis of training of many of the world's law enforcement agencies and if it does come to a street fight then if you succeed if "winning" the fight then you are less likely to be "done" for the techniques used as the damage you do via Aikido is usually regarded as defensive rather than aggressive martial arts such as TKD.

 

That said living in a house full of black belts, 2nd Dans etc in TKD, particularly the girls, I don't mind how they win the fights as long as the do and we can deal with the fallout later.

 

Big fan of Steven Seagal,his martial arts, politics etc.  Trained in Japan the hard way.  In the news recently for getting Russian citizenship but it is a mad world, love his films of a decade or two  ago and great genuine martial arts up to Exit Wounds where he started to use wires.

[Macdemon]

Anyone doing Martial Arts?

Just wondering what arts is effective on our UK streets these days?

Been looking at:

1. Tae Kwon do

2. Karate

3. Brazilian JuJitSu

4. Krav Maga

5. Filipino Martial Arts

6. Silat

7. MMA?

Any one particular for a not so fit person or children?

Cheers

 

I find a swift hard kick in the goolies is a good tactic.  :D

[Chan110]

I find a swift hard kick in the goolies is a good tactic. :D

Lol :)

Long time no hear, Tim!

[lol-lol]

I find a swift hard kick in the goolies is a good tactic.   :D

 

With Aikido it is thought wise to always keep your feet on the ground for balance and movement (except in the case of trying to unseat a horseman etc).

 

[Ootohere]

http://wjjf.co.uk

 

There will very likely be Martial Arts Practitioners on here that have been at Events, Tournaments and Nights out where people stay over, have a drink etc 

and some attending might get in a scrap while out on the town, even among them selves.  It is quite funny seeing those 'Trained Killer' fighting hand bags.

 

It is also funny seeing Trained Students of the various Martial Art kicking with shoes / boots and failing because they never train in going out footwear

so shoes fly off, or they go down on their back side, or they show their kicks and someone blocks them or just kicks them in the Goolies..

(i remember a young girl being told, kick them in the goolies and she asked 'where are they next to their balls?')

Quite funny is seeing someone get their shirt torn as someone grabs them or the likes which never happens in training when wearing 'costumes', they look down and the assailant nuts them. (Glasgow Kiss.)

 

I was at a World Jujitsu Federation Conference once which was where some Soke & Sensei managed to get even on various others that had been at it with their organisations. One particular thieving git was injured for a long time and had to give up his day job.

Not fisty cuffs in the toilets but during Public Displays on the mats where they basically caused physical injury without many watching being aware what was happening.

 

Drink and self defence often do not go together and that is not just a trained person dealing with a drunk, but a trained person that has taken alcoholic drink and has not learned well any self control.

Edited 17 December, 2016 by Offski

[Chan110]

Spot on, offski!

Hence my OP ref "self defence for UK streets..."

So really looking for a more modern take on martial arts that can hold its own in the real world (than a specialised sport or one that only train/spar the traditional way)

But I guess as long as I find a club that teaches "any" martial art BUT, which applies in today's situation (be it against a drunk, a glass bottle or some chav who takes a swing at you) ...