Our vRS was delivered 01/09/16 and since delivery we have been logging each fuel-up to help track our consumption. The records now cover the first 7-7.5k miles.

 

I thought I'd share the stats with the Briskoda community as whilst I get many, many pleasures from reading numbers it will hopefully be helpful to somebody out there who wants to compare or research fuel consumption.

 

Worth noting that my right foot isn't that light so I'm sure there are many of you out there who will get a better MPG equally it's not always flat out so isn't the worst it could be.  

 

Most driving is 300 mile round trips from Herefordshire to London, mostly sat on motorways/major A roads. There is one record in there which significantly lowers the average (28.87 mpg on 29/11) this was mainly due to town driving.

 

Enjoy:

 

http://www.fuelly.com/car/skoda/octavia/2016/frostieuk/452578

Edited 29 December, 20169 yr by Frostie

Mostly sat on motorways/major A roads and only seeing those figures in a TDI? Is it broken?! :O

Mostly sat on motorways/major A roads and only seeing those figures in a TDI? Is it broken?! :o

Understandable if the motorway is the M23....at peak hours.

 

It seems that if you want to see some reports of good diesel economy, then you have to visit the Superb part of the Forum.

Just checked the link again and the figures are completely different. Now looks respectable! Not sure what's changed?

What are you seeing? I see an average of 6.8L/100 (41.54 mpg)

What are you seeing? I see an average of 6.8L/100 (41.54 mpg)

Figured it out... That site defaults to US units on my laptop for some reason, which averages at 34.4mpg! Only says "mpg" and it's only if you look at the units setting in the top left that it shows its US and not UK.

Checked again on my phone and it shows UK units with a higher MPG. OP sorry to derail the thread!

Our vRS was delivered 01/09/16 and since delivery we have been logging each fuel-up to help track our consumption. The records now cover the first 7-7.5k miles.

 

I thought I'd share the stats with the Briskoda community as whilst I get many, many pleasures from reading numbers it will hopefully be helpful to somebody out there who wants to compare or research fuel consumption.

 

Worth noting that my right foot isn't that light so I'm sure there are many of you out there who will get a better MPG equally it's not always flat out so isn't the worst it could be.  

 

Most driving is 300 mile round trips from Herefordshire to London, mostly sat on motorways/major A roads. There is one record in there which significantly lowers the average (28.87 mpg on 29/11) this was mainly due to town driving.

 

Enjoy:

 

http://www.fuelly.com/car/skoda/octavia/2016/frostieuk/452578

Just out of interest what brand of fuel are you using?

The site defaults to US units, you have to select UK on the drop down box in the left corner. 

Just out of interest what brand of fuel are you using?

So I've only filled up with Esso and roughly every 6th fill up I'm putting in Esso Supreme

(There's a note against the fill ups with Esso Supreme)

Edited 29 December, 20169 yr by Frostie

Thats a realy low fuel mpg figure, even round town, 34mpg?. Are you screwing the car? Thats ridiculously low.

It could be because its a new engine, however this is more lighly to cause a debate some say it shouldent matter and some are convinced the engine loosens up after 10k. I know its a different car but a relative of mine has a superb with a 184bhp dsg diesel and gets 50mpg average.

There is not a huge performance difference, i know the map will be different but allowing for this to the tune of 15 mpg.

Thats a realy low fuel mpg figure, even round town, 34mpg?. Are you screwing the car? Thats ridiculously low.

He's getting 41.5mpg (the site defaults to US not UK calibration).

 

I never "screwed" my 184bhp diesel and yet never got more than 43mpg.

 

The OP's economy figures are about right if he has a spirited right foot.

 

I just wish Skoda would drop the 61mpg combined claim; they're just making themselves look foolish........or crooked.  One or the other.

He's getting 41.5mpg (the site defaults to US not UK calibration).

 

I never "screwed" my 184bhp diesel and yet never got more than 43mpg.

 

The OP's economy figures are about right if he has a spirited right foot.

 

I just wish Skoda would drop the 61mpg combined claim; they're just making themselves look foolish........or crooked.  One or the other.

This begs the question if the economy is that bad, why not just buy a petrol vrs.

Even 40mpg is pritty poor keeping in mind a 330d is doing 46 real world.

This begs the question if the economy is that bad, why not just buy a petrol vrs.

Even 40mpg is pritty poor keeping in mind a 330d is doing 46 real world.

 

Exactly.

 

My Focus ST 250bhp petrol is returning 39mpg doing *exactly* the same journey and being driven in *exactly* the same manner as my VRS 184bhp diesel.

 

I'm actually embarrassed that I got suckered in by the Skoda hype :swear: :swear: :swear:  It was a great car and pulled like Concorde so 61mpg was never remotely possible.

This begs the question if the economy is that bad, why not just buy a petrol vrs.

Even 40mpg is pritty poor keeping in mind a 330d is doing 46 real world.

This was exactly the reason I went with petrol in the end, despite doing diesel safe mileage (16k a year). I see 40mpg on my commute and about 30mpg round town. My average over 2k is 35mpg (all calculated, not indicated). I'm not sure the diesel would have saved me enough in fuel costs to make the compromise.

I had a 330D in 245ps guise a few years ago, it was quick and very economical. Definitely beats my petrol Vrs on both fronts there. Another 330D have been my ideal car, but my budget didn't get me a well specced F30 without high mileage. Add in the higher running costs and it made the petrol VRS more appealing despite the lower mpg.

On 29/12/2016 at 19:08, ahenners said:

This was exactly the reason I went with petrol in the end, despite doing diesel safe mileage (16k a year). I see 40mpg on my commute and about 30mpg round town. My average over 2k is 35mpg (all calculated, not indicated). I'm not sure the diesel would have saved me enough in fuel costs to make the compromise.

I had a 330D in 245ps guise a few years ago, it was quick and very economical. Definitely beats my petrol Vrs on both fronts there. Another 330D have been my ideal car, but my budget didn't get me a well specced F30 without high mileage. Add in the higher running costs and it made the petrol VRS more appealing despite the lower mpg.

Is your petrol manual or DSG? 

 

I'm currently running a vRS tdi (184), but my lease is up in July and I'm seriously considering a change to petrol. 

My daily commute is 16 miles each way, predominantly motorway, but M60, so very start stop. How would the petrol stand up to that type of commute do you think? (Consumption wise). 

9 hours ago, Skodev said:

Is your petrol manual or DSG? 

 

I'm currently running a vRS tdi (184), but my lease is up in July and I'm seriously considering a change to petrol. 

My daily commute is 16 miles each way, predominantly motorway, but M60, so very start stop. How would the petrol stand up to that type of commute do you think? (Consumption wise). 

 

It's DSG which is lovely, not sure I could go back to manual now.

 

I think with start stop motorway work you'd be looking at mid to low 30s. What are you getting in the TDI at the minute? None of my motorway commute is start stop (M55 & M6) and I only have about 2 miles of town driving either side. 

1 hour ago, ahenners said:

 

It's DSG which is lovely, not sure I could go back to manual now.

 

I think with start stop motorway work you'd be looking at mid to low 30s. What are you getting in the TDI at the minute? None of my motorway commute is start stop (M55 & M6) and I only have about 2 miles of town driving either side. 

Well I'm just into work now. I was very good this morning, no chopping and changing lanes. 

Driving data as follows. 

18 miles. Ave mph 19. Duration 1hr 7mins. Ave mpg 47.1. 

Cars done 18,000 miles. 

 

I'm in a real quandary, as I love my diesel and manual, but the daily "chug" along the 60 really works the left leg. I'm also wondering about the DSG mated to the petrol. Can you work the full range enough for it to be enjoyable, or do you sometimes wish you had more control? 

 

Really interested to hear as many "real world" experiences, as these tend to reflect the details you really need. 

 

The MPG, whilst a consideration, isn't a major issue as I know it'll be nowhere near my current. But if the car doesn't live up to expectation driving wise, then I'd be frustrated that there was no real benefit. 

 

In your opinion, are the gearing ratios on the DSG well matched to the TSI engine? Do you have the grunt when you need it, say for swift overtaking, or do you have to knock it into manual for that? 

 

All feedback greatly appreciated.  

2 hours ago, ahenners said:

 

It's DSG which is lovely, not sure I could go back to manual now.

 

I think with start stop motorway work you'd be looking at mid to low 30s. What are you getting in the TDI at the minute? None of my motorway commute is start stop (M55 & M6) and I only have about 2 miles of town driving either side. 

Well I'm just into work now. I was very good this morning, no chopping and changing lanes. 

Driving data as follows. 

18 miles. Ave mph 19. Duration 1hr 7mins. Ave mpg 47.1. 

Cars done 18,000 miles. 

 

I'm in a real quandary, as I love my diesel and manual, but the daily "chug" along the 60 really works the left leg. I'm also wondering about the DSG mated to the petrol. Can you work the full range enough for it to be enjoyable, or do you sometimes wish you had more control? 

 

Really interested to hear as many "real world" experiences, as these tend to reflect the details you really need. 

 

The MPG, whilst a consideration, isn't a major issue as I know it'll be nowhere near my current. But if the car doesn't live up to expectation driving wise, then I'd be frustrated that there was no real benefit. 

 

In your opinion, are the gearing ratios on the DSG well matched to the TSI engine? Do you have the grunt when you need it, say for swift overtaking, or do you have to knock it into manual for that? 

 

All feedback greatly appreciated.  

22 minutes ago, Skodev said:

 

18 miles. Ave mph 19. Duration 1hr 7mins. Ave mpg 47.1. 

 

 

1hr 7mins to do 18 miles!!  Would be quicker to cycle! 

Edited 31 January, 20179 yr by shanemeh

I have VRs Estate 4 x 4, DSG and disappointed that my 30 mile commute on the M8 gives between 42 - 47mpg. No obvious reason for the variation except, perhaps, regen. Car is fantastic and this is the only disappointment. Normal commute rarely gets above 50mph but running at a steady 75mph (when I get the chance) only gives 42mpg which I think is very poor.

1 hour ago, Skodev said:

Well I'm just into work now. I was very good this morning, no chopping and changing lanes. 

Driving data as follows. 

18 miles. Ave mph 19. Duration 1hr 7mins. Ave mpg 47.1. 

Cars done 18,000 miles. 

 

I'm in a real quandary, as I love my diesel and manual, but the daily "chug" along the 60 really works the left leg. I'm also wondering about the DSG mated to the petrol. Can you work the full range enough for it to be enjoyable, or do you sometimes wish you had more control? 

 

Really interested to hear as many "real world" experiences, as these tend to reflect the details you really need. 

 

The MPG, whilst a consideration, isn't a major issue as I know it'll be nowhere near my current. But if the car doesn't live up to expectation driving wise, then I'd be frustrated that there was no real benefit. 

 

In your opinion, are the gearing ratios on the DSG well matched to the TSI engine? Do you have the grunt when you need it, say for swift overtaking, or do you have to knock it into manual for that? 

 

All feedback greatly appreciated.  

 

I think the only way you can be sure is to test drive one, but even then it's difficult to make a full assessment of something in such a short space of time. It was only about a month into ownership where I truly started to appreciate DSG, having owned a manual previously. In the past I did also own an automatic 330D which was enjoyable and again in that I never wanted for a manual; but a diesel has a much smaller rev range to exploit.

 

47mpg is good with those stats, at a guess I think the TSI would be close to 30mpg in similar conditions. Recently I managed 45.1mpg over 23 miles going home from work. Average speed 43mph, with a duration of 32mins. That's probably about my best on a commute, its usually closer to 40mpg with similar stats for time, distance etc.

 

I think the ratios are well matched to the TSI, and the behaviour of the DSG box changes slightly depending on the mode you have the car in. In eco, it does tend to shift up early to maximise economy, but with plenty of low down torque this is generally fine for most day to day stuff. In sport it does hold on to gears through the rev range and shifts at the top end. Normal is like eco but not as keen to shift up so early, but will shift up if you are light on the throttle. I tend to use eco or manual mode for most of my commuting journeys.

 

I had the previous MK2 FL TSI VRS in a manual and I find my MK3 DSG TSI more enjoyable. Whilst some of the purists will disagree here... I actually prefer the DSG both for occasions where I'm having a bit of fun, and for when I'm commuting in traffic. Grunt for overtaking is no problem; kickdown sees to that. The DSG makes it so easy to drop a few gears in next-to-no-time if you want to go from cruising to blasting in the blink of an eye, since you can either use kickdown, or flick the paddle a couple of times. No way could I drop the clutch, navigate the box and drop it a couple of gears anywhere near as quickly in the manual. If you're a purist, you're definitely going to baulk at that statement, but while I enjoy driving, I'm not an old-school purist, so it works well for me. If I want more involvement, manual mode with the DSG provides enough for me without wishing I had a clutch and manual lever.  In traffic and stop-start conditions, DSG wins everytime since you don't need to work your left leg so much and constantly navigate through first, second, neutral etc.

 

Overall, I think the DSG provides a good blend of doing a good job on its own without intervention, but still allowing a degree of control should you want it. If I tracked my car, I probably would want the manual, but for 95% of daily driving I think the benefits of the DSG outweigh the drawbacks for me. In the petrol (compared to manual), it drops the official economy by about 3mpg combined, and no effect on tax banding.

Edited 31 January, 20179 yr by ahenners

1 hour ago, shanemeh said:

 

1hr 7mins to do 18 miles!!  Would be quicker to cycle! 

Absolutely standard that mate. That's my morning commute right there. Even worse on the way home. The M60 / M56 between Ashton and the M/CR airport is a nightmare. 

But my friend, it is, what it is. 

46 minutes ago, ahenners said:

 

I think the only way you can be sure is to test drive one, but even then it's difficult to make a full assessment of something in such a short space of time. It was only about a month into ownership where I truly started to appreciate DSG, having owned a manual previously. In the past I did also own an automatic 330D which was enjoyable and again in that I never wanted for a manual; but a diesel has a much smaller rev range to exploit.

 

47mpg is good with those stats, at a guess I think the TSI would be close to 30mpg in similar conditions. Recently I managed 45.1mpg over 23 miles going home from work. Average speed 43mph, with a duration of 32mins. That's probably about my best on a commute, its usually closer to 40mpg with similar stats for time, distance etc.

 

I think the ratios are well matched to the TSI, and the behaviour of the DSG box changes slightly depending on the mode you have the car in. In eco, it does tend to shift up early to maximise economy, but with plenty of low down torque this is generally fine for most day to day stuff. In sport it does hold on to gears through the rev range and shifts at the top end. Normal is like eco but not as keen to shift up so early, but will shift up if you are light on the throttle. I tend to use eco or manual mode for most of my commuting journeys.

 

I had the previous MK2 FL TSI VRS in a manual and I find my MK3 DSG TSI more enjoyable. Whilst some of the purists will disagree here... I actually prefer the DSG both for occasions where I'm having a bit of fun, and for when I'm commuting in traffic. Grunt for overtaking is no problem; kickdown sees to that. The DSG makes it so easy to drop a few gears in next-to-no-time if you want to go from cruising to blasting in the blink of an eye, since you can either use kickdown, or flick the paddle a couple of times. No way could I drop the clutch, navigate the box and drop it a couple of gears anywhere near as quickly in the manual. If you're a purist, you're definitely going to baulk at that statement, but while I enjoy driving, I'm not an old-school purist, so it works well for me. If I want more involvement, manual mode with the DSG provides enough for me without wishing I had a clutch and manual lever.  In traffic and stop-start conditions, DSG wins everytime since you don't need to work your left leg so much and constantly navigate through first, second, neutral etc.

 

Overall, I think the DSG provides a good blend of doing a good job on its own without intervention, but still allowing a degree of control should you want it. If I tracked my car, I probably would want the manual, but for 95% of daily driving I think the benefits of the DSG outweigh the drawbacks for me. In the petrol (compared to manual), it drops the official economy by about 3mpg combined, and no effect on tax banding.

Thanks pal. Great insight. Invaluable. You're right though, inneed to test drive one and see. 

Relieved to hear you giving the DSG a vote of confidence regards heavy traffic as that is one of my main reasons for considering a change from what I have now. 

 

Much appreciated. 

1 hour ago, shanemeh said:

 

1hr 7mins to do 18 miles!!  Would be quicker to cycle! 

When I was commuting from near Hedge End to near Romsey it could take anything between 15 minutes and an hour & 15 minutes to do 7 miles (depending on how many accidents there were on the M3 & M27) - so that's an average of between 28 and 5.6mph

 

That's why I took early retirement...

I live in an area with lots of hills (100m+ ups and downs are a common on the main roads) though do little town driving, my average is very rarely below 50mpg and I worry if it is. When I do get to do town driving that barley affects the results, as gentle stop start does not harm the figures. On a motorway journey I average high 50s.

some samples

yorkshire - peterborough

 

Paris - Calais

 

yorkshire - somerset

 

mostly cruise indicated 75mph

 

(didnt take a picture when i got it down to 25mpg !)