My thinking was that adding weight to the rear would effectively change the bias valve and make the rear discs work harder. Hopefully this would then assist the fronts.

However the positive effects would be negated by the additional weight.

The problem with the 312mm conversion for me is' date=' 1: I don't think i could do it myself, and 2: it would invalidate my warranty.

I'm starting small, just ordered some pads, if they improve it i will get rear pads as well (I am assuming the main bias is the front still so not doing the rears shouldn't be that much of a problem)

Then i'll do the fluid.

Does anyone happen to know of anywhere you can get the 312mm conversion done? or even where to get the callipers/carriers other than a scrap yard.[/quote']

You can get all the parts you need for the 312mm conv right here on Briskoda, or eBay (same guy as on here).

The job isn't difficult and any garage could do it for you in a few hours.

The warrenty issue is a bit of an odd one as I've had numerous VAG cars and both VW and Audi (local dealers) don't seem to mind mods, they don't warranty them but also they do standy by their warranty on other things like electrics, body work etc..... however, called local Skoda dealer to day and they weren't interested, and to add to the confusion I was chatting to Star Performance today about upgrades and warranty and they said they've done work for my local Skoad delaer who will warranty modded cars and also warranty work carried out by Star, ie remaps and such like.

So, all a bit confusing, but its not going to stop me from upgrading the brakes one way or the other.

who is it that sells the 312 kit on here then? either his username or ebay name if that's possible cheers. I've ordered some pads, but i've decided if this doesn't sort em out then I will do the brake conversion.

who is it that sells the 312 kit on here then? either his username or ebay name if that's possible cheers. I've ordered some pads, but i've decided if this doesn't sort em out then I will do the brake conversion.

"GolfTurbo" - sells them on eBay too, under the same name.

Steve

I still maintain that the original brakes are more than adequate for a standard car. I have driven two standard, both were fine, but i will concede that they don't feel like they are going to stop you. There is a Briskodian who shall remain nameless, who frequents a german toll road, on standard brakes, with no issues at all.

That aside, if you want to pull your face off when you brake, TT calipers, Tar ox g88 discs, and tarox rallye pads will do the trick.

according to my tricky HU, I pull -1.25 g when I stop hard

Here's an interesting experiment for someone to try.

Get some big heavy things (bags of cement' date=' lots or bricks, brim full bottles of water) and put them in the boot. This will alter the brake bias valve accordingly.

Go and do a brake test and see how it feels.

Now move the heavy stuff to the front footwell/passenger seat and see how it feels.

May not prove anything but could be itneresting.[/quote']

It doesn't seem to really affect it. Over the years I have enjoyed a variety of Citroens, and putting heavy stuff in the back, or poeple changed the braking quite dramatically.

I normally only have me and no wieght in the car, and my rears are shagged, so I would guess that they are always working to some degree.

Ross?

I still maintain that the original brakes are more than adequate for a standard car. I have driven two standard' date=' both were fine, but i will concede that they don't feel like they are going to stop you. There is a Briskodian who shall remain nameless, who frequents a german toll road, on standard brakes, with no issues at all.

That aside, if you want to pull your face off when you brake, TT calipers, Tar ox g88 discs, and tarox rallye pads will do the trick.

according to my tricky HU, I pull -1.25 g when I stop hard [/quote']

Again, i think its a good part what your used to. Coming from a cupra the brakes 'seem' rubbish, compared to a ford escort they are probably godlike.

PM'ed Golf Turbo and he does the kits with a couple of options - vented diskes. He's on here and cupra.net. He states the kit is a bit of a halfway house between the standard setup and a full brembo conversion - to be fair he's offering quite a good price for the parts, but the reall issue would be the dealership for those still in warrenty (like myself). My Stealer is the most anti-mod i've ever encounterd - told me putting on my Forge FMIC would 'strain the engine (actual quote).

I'm a bit miffed really becasue i've got the money and time to make a really good job of this car but i'm being held back by a ar$e of a service manager. i bought new to get the extact options i wanted - but now i'm wishing i'd bought second hand nearing the end of warrenty.

I am prepared to sacrifice warrenty on changed parts, but the service manager has so far told me the following will void large parts of my warrenty - with little evidence based reasoning:

FMIC - will strain engine (my Ar$e)

Brake upgrade - will stress all the other componants in the braking system and suspension.

Lowering springs/dampers - will invalidate warrenty on prettymuch everthing but engine - mumbled somethingbout the steering rack. Even voids paint?!

Remap - he'll never spot - its switchable

Curpa air intake - hopefully will never spot

Green pannel filter - havn't asked - just doing it.

Seat strut brace - not tested the water here yet - but i'm sure he can engineer some bull$hit reason it will void my life of somthing.

It may have to be just pads and disk change for now, at least until i can find a dealership which isn't run by mary whitehouse's lovechild...

I am prepared to sacrifice warrenty on changed parts, but the service manager has so far told me the following will void large parts of my warrenty - with little evidence based reasoning:

Check the T&C's of your warranty - you'll find that Skoda technically invalidate the warranty on the entire car if it's modified in any way!

Chris

I've spoke to my dealer and all they say is that they will not warranty any fault that has been caused by the modification. Given that it only affects the braking system I think I might go for it. I will PM Golfturbo and find out how much the kit is, if the new pads don't keep me happy then I think I will just go ahead and do the mod.

I believe there is a guide on here somewhere on how to do it so I'll have a nosey.

I have warranty until Nov, and currently there are a few items that I need Skoda to check so I'll hang fire for a few weeks until they are resolved, but as ther Skoda warranty wording is the same as VW and Audi and I've never had an issue with either of those two when it comes to mods I'll just do it and sod them if something goes pop!

Afterall, if they're that anal about it I wouldn't want them touching the car or getting my business (service, non warrnty work) anyway.

Besides, how uprating the suspension or brakes could cause Elec windows to fail (eg) or paint to corrode I don't know.

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Besides' date=' how uprating the suspension or brakes could cause Elec windows to fail (eg) or paint to corrode I don't know.

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What i am about to say may shock you, but i assure you it came from a skoda stealer in my locality. Lowering apparantly equates to more stone chips, hence increasing the liklihood of paint suffering further corrosion.

Being lower i would personally argue that more stones will miss the car andd fly right over the top of it; well, maybe...

What i am about to say may shock you' date=' but i assure you it came from a skoda stealer in my locality. Lowering apparantly equates to more stone chips, hence increasing the liklihood of paint suffering further corrosion.

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Stone chips and rust caused by stone chips being left untreated arn't covered by the warrenty anyway so that makes no difference.

I've had the 312mm with zimmerman disks and pagid pads fitted for a couple of weeks now and the difference is incredible. Most people have claimed they have seen some improvement in pedel feel and stopping power; I would say that I have over halfed my stopping time as well as now having brakes which are progressive and firm. This leads me to believe there may well have been a problem with the standard barkes - because i still cannot believe how poor they were (so many other people thought they were great?!).

I tested the new ones out around the twisty roads of somerset and round the cheddar gorge and they put a smile on my face from start to finish - it completely changes the character of the car now i can stop

Does anyone know if you can upgrade to the master cylinder to the one from the octavia VRS? When the hybrid turbo happens I would like even more stopping power if at all possible. as ayone tried braded hoses?

Although the car stops well now, it still doesn't compare with my cupra using the exact same 312 calipers, ferodo pads and cheaper OEM disks.

Not had a problem with fade in 15,000 miles, regulary go across snake pass, cat & fiddle. If anything the pedal is over sharp. As for the A34, some of those roundabouts seem close together to be getting up to 80MPH between them and then stopping. Saying that, I usually stick to the posted limits 'cause of all the Gatso's there though often brake late with no ill effects. The only thing I don't like is the way you go to stop reasonably firmly and and the stopping force suddenly increases after initial breaking.

If an insurance company won't insure it, it won't be anything to do with the brakes, it'll be purely to with risk evaluation in insuring sporty cars/sporty cars combined with certain demographic groups, and/or the number that are apparently being crashed.

It's hit and miss, certain pads seem better than others. I'm on my 4th set of pads (1st set of discs still) in 35,000 miles, 2 sets have been useless and 2 sets have been good with the latest set noticably better than the rest.

Incidentally, when i was having my remap with JBS, James and a collegue nearly shat themselves when i needed to pull into a layby for a tweak of the map/ ignition on/off - i had to use engine braking to a mssive extent - pedal to floor and just a halfa$$ed attempt at maybe slowing down by the standard brakes. JBS verdict - change the brakes as they are crap. James drove the car himself too.

Thats fairly objective and professional as oppinions go - so maybe its not a case of 'wot ure used to' and more a case of some FVRS brakes are actually really rubbish. There are too many opposite experiences on this thread for it be purely subjective - there must be some issue of variable performace. Maybe a change in componants? Have the calipers etc. always been Lucas? Have the standard pads ever been changed to a better/worse stock?

Incidentally' date=' when i was having my remap with JBS, James and a collegue nearly shat themselves when i needed to pull into a layby for a tweak of the map/ ignition on/off - i had to use engine braking to a mssive extent - pedal to floor and just a halfa$$ed attempt at maybe slowing down by the standard brakes. JBS verdict - change the brakes as they are crap. James drove the car himself too.

Thats fairly objective and professional as oppinions go - so maybe its not a case of 'wot ure used to' and more a case of some FVRS brakes are actually really rubbish. There are too many opposite experiences on this thread for it be purely subjective - there must be some issue of variable performace. Maybe a change in componants? Have the calipers etc. always been Lucas? Have the standard pads ever been changed to a better/worse stock?[/quote']

Something sounds very wrong there....