1 hour ago, Ryeman said:

Petrol with SCR perhaps George 

So are lol-lol and offski both called George? I'm confused.

@lol-lol

The abbreviations for grams and kilometers are g and km respectively. Lower case.

Your incessant messing these up really makes me wonder about your claims of some scientific education. 

27 minutes ago, Wino said:

So are lol-lol and offski both called George? I'm confused.

 

No my first name is lol, well something similar as sibling could not say the actual.

39 minutes ago, Wino said:

@lol-lol

The abbreviations for grams and kilometers are g and km respectively. Lower case.

Your incessant messing these up really makes me wonder about your claims of some scientific education. 

 

Apologies for my lack of consistency, laziness on my behalf and a poor checker. Cert on the wall says BSc (Hons) Upper second (2-1 colloquilly known as i think rather than a Desmond 2-2)  (is that the right format?). Thanks for your face vetting. Any thoughts on the content from your Oxford educational background?

Edited 5 February, 20179 yr by lol-lol

I'm quite fond of our 3-cylinder 1.2 in the Fabia.:)

Economical, reliable, and surprisingly perky. 

Not too bothered about NOx  as we rarely take it to anywhere with dense population.

Downsizing has worked out well for us.

51 minutes ago, Wino said:

I'm quite fond of our 3-cylinder 1.2 in the Fabia.:)

Economical, reliable, and surprisingly perky. 

Not too bothered about NOx  as we rarely take it to anywhere with dense population.

Downsizing has worked out well for us.

Annoyed me i paid 4 times more road tax for my Fabia 2 three cylinder than the Chevy and Logan for cars that the CO2 that was only about 10% different!

I think the financial significance of VED is ridiculously overrated in the average motorist's mind.

lol-lol, You paid a VED class higher for your Mk2 vRS Fabia 1.4 TSI DSG over that for a VW Polo GTI & Audi A1 185ps then for the SEAT Ibiza Cupra 2013 

once SEAT dropped the VED to the same as the VW, AUDI on the SEAT. Skoda fitted the same new engine and engine management but left the VED in the same higher class.

The sister cars were heavier even after SKODA put a 25kg ballast on the rear and a spare tyre as standard, they all had the same Drive train but bigger tyres and VW, AUDI, SEAT EU Testing showed them as having lower Co2 g/km.

Edited 5 February, 20179 yr by Offski

9 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Annoyed me i paid 4 times more road tax for my Fabia 2 three cylinder than the Chevy and Logan for cars that the CO2 that was only about 10% different!

 

You'll be more annoyed when you next buy new then.  A cleaner more modern car will cost more in VED from April than much of the stuff already on the road.

17 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

You'll be more annoyed when you next buy new then.  A cleaner more modern car will cost more in VED from April than much of the stuff already on the road.

 

 Not if i buy a Zoe. Effectively free charging at work. Zero road tax and currently £5000 government subsidy, £2500 off retail on my favourite model ie ZE 40 NAV and five years 0% finance. So tempting.

Max grant £4,500 is it not?

http://gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants/what-youll-pay

 

In Scotland you can get the interest free loan to purchase from the Government / Tax Payers.

 

Edited 5 February, 20179 yr by Offski

24 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

 Not if i buy a Zoe. Effectively free charging at work. Zero road tax and currently £5000 government subsidy, £2500 off retail on my favourite model ie ZE 40 NAV and five years 0% finance. So tempting.

 

A workmate tried "free charging" his Leaf at work because it struggled with the commute range.

 

Everyone else wondered why their computers were off - till someone saw a charging lead snaking out of the window and enquired about stealing work's electricity?

 

He binned the Nissan and now leases a Model S instead.

3 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

No my first name is lol, well something similar as sibling could not say the actual.

And here was me thinking you just Laughed Out Loud a lot.
Laurence?

14 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

A workmate tried "free charging" his Leaf at work because it struggled with the commute range.   Everyone else wondered why their computers were off - till someone saw a charging lead snaking out of the window and enquired about stealing work's electricity?    He binned the Nissan and now leases a Model S instead.

 

We have 10 charge points, Type 2 it looks like, at our new main office in the UK at Heathrow.  They have initially gone in as 3.6 kw/hr one but I gather they are to be replaced by faster charging points, presume either 7 or 22 kw/hr or maybe even 45s.

 

The Zoe can charge from a normal 3 pin socket but the lead is expensive, RRP about £400, some second hand knocking around for half that when people get their wall chargers.  The Zoe, not sure about the LEAF (they are only 22 or 30 Kw/Hr), wants 3 phase juice so the 3 pin lead take the single phase and creates three phase from the single phase.  The new Zoe ZE 40 (actually 41 Kw/Hr onboard storage) is capable of about 185 miles of normal driving in summer (250 miles if you hypermile) but only 125 miles in depth of winter.   Some discussion as to whether employer providing power in BIK.  Even if it was it would only be about a fiver to charge the Zoe for another 150 miles of driving so no biggie.  

 

Since my company makes electric cars and charge points it is strongly promoting all such use and there will be EV vans as well as our EV cars.  Not sure about a TESLA charge point as I thought they were different but could charge at up to 125 Kw/hr.     

9 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

And here was me thinking you just Laughed Out Loud a lot.
Laurence?

 

Oh close.  You spelt it the alternate way ie U rather than W as I was named after the river in Canada (though I am not a Saint by any stretch).

49 minutes ago, Offski said:

Max grant £4,500 is it not?

http://gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants/what-youll-pay

 

In Scotland you can get the interest free loan to purchase from the Government / Tax Payers.

 

 

Plus you get £500 for the wall box making £5K in all as I understand it.

6 hours ago, Wino said:

So are lol-lol and offski both called George? I'm confused.

Sorry for the sloppiness but the 'style' was sooo George I forgot that it was lol I was replying too

(not having a 'go' though)

1 hour ago, Ryeman said:

Sorry for the sloppiness but the 'style' was sooo George I forgot that it was lol I was replying too

(not having a 'go' though)

 

I am not a dour Scot but a fun loving bumpkin from the West Country but the near 7 years of Con rule, BREXIT and now Trump is enough to make any right minded person start to believe in Dystopia rather than Eutopia !   

1 minute ago, lol-lol said:

 

I am not a dour Scot but a fun loving bumpkin from the West Country but the near 7 years of Con rule, BREXIT and now Trump is enough to make any right minded person start to believe in Dystopia rather than Eutopia !   

There might be more than enough willing to go to Mars to simply escape this madness lol.

3 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

There might be more than enough willing to go to Mars to simply escape this madness lol.

 

After the brilliant film "The Martians" then there has been "MARS" on National Geographic channel, also great and then Brilliant Oz music from Nick Cave....

 

 

Fuel cell is still being pursued seriously 

http://ibisworldwide.com/2017/news/industry-leaders-rally-behind-hydrogen-solution/

32 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

There might be more than enough willing to go to Mars to simply escape this madness lol.

Yeah but what happens when:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Ryeman said:

Fuel cell is still being pursued seriously 

http://ibisworldwide.com/2017/news/industry-leaders-rally-behind-hydrogen-solution/

 

Unless someone figures out how to electrolyse water very cheaply this is never going to be a viable large scale solution.

11 minutes ago, chimaera said:

 

Unless someone figures out how to electrolyse water very cheaply this is never going to be a viable large scale solution.

Deep in the bowels of science I suspect they are working on a way and somewhere solar power is a significant contributor.....

it might be here somewhere...http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0038092X03004663

Oh it's being worked on for sure, but it's still a good way from being viable at the scale needed for cars.

 

Never mind that we're starting to see battery ranges in the 500 km range from Tesla, coupled with high speed charging. By the time hydrogen production is cheap enough to be viable, it might be outclassed by battery tech anyway. The main downside to batteries for now remains the loss of capacity with time and at low temperatures but these are also being worked on furiously by scientists.