My current Yeti (my 3rd) is on a PCH deal finishing in January 2018.

I'm now stuck with the problem of do I change it for another one now (apparently there are still quiet a few available, especially diesels), or do I wait for the new Karoq to come out.

With the Yeti I know what I'm getting, and they are fairly well equipped as run out models, or the Karoq will be more modern, but could have the new model quality control issues similar to the new Kodiaq.

I think that I will go up to see the dealer tomorrow to see what deals are available on the Yeti.

I also need to check with VWFS to see what penalty I may include if I finish my PCH agreement early.

Decisions, decisions.

Why not consider buying your current car from the lease company and then decide later.

personally I will never again buy a new model until it has been out a year or so.

Too much chance of nigiling or even serious design flaws, and there will be no deals on price.

be really difficult to get any early Karoq anyway without ordering before even seeing one.

 

11 minutes ago, kenfowler3966 said:

Why not consider buying your current car from the lease company and then decide later.

personally I will never again buy a new model until it has been out a year or so.

Too much chance of nigiling or even serious design flaws, and there will be no deals on price.

be really difficult to get any early Karoq anyway without ordering before even seeing one.

 

I don't know what the settlement figure will be in 6 months or so, plus strictly I would not be allowed to buy it, although there would be nothing stopping a member of my family buying it. Either way I don't know if I would have the funds available to buy the car outright in January.

Ask the collecting driver which auction it is going to and bid on it?

Or does it go back to a dealer as used stock?

Wow! January 2018, you are a person after my own heart, planning early.

 

A friend of mine said he had an old uncle, who was a farmer, who regularly said "I don't buys an 'orse, except I don't needs an 'orse". 

Think about it:- if you buy under pressure e.g. as lease is expiring, you can well make decisions that you regret later.

I try and help my family to buy a car "when they don't need to".

 

Back to the original question, I wouldn't be an "early adopter" of any vehicle model after a change precisely as has been noted because of potential teething problems AND because they'll be mean on discounts.

 

I'd be reluctant to buy a "run-out" model Yeti because the Karoq will have a more advanced technical spec especially the MQB platform it's built on.

 

My current intention is to buy a Karoq in a couple of years or when funds allow after that.

29 minutes ago, awfabia said:

Wow! January 2018, you are a person after my own heart, planning early.

 

A friend of mine said he had an old uncle, who was a farmer, who regularly said "I don't buys an 'orse, except I don't needs an 'orse". 

Think about it:- if you buy under pressure e.g. as lease is expiring, you can well make decisions that you regret later.

I try and help my family to buy a car "when they don't need to".

 

Back to the original question, I wouldn't be an "early adopter" of any vehicle model after a change precisely as has been noted because of potential teething problems AND because they'll be mean on discounts.

 

I'd be reluctant to buy a "run-out" model Yeti because the Karoq will have a more advanced technical spec especially the MQB platform it's built on.

 

My current intention is to buy a Karoq in a couple of years or when funds allow after that.

Yes same here, took out a lease for 2 years back in April. All the bugs on the karoq should be ironed out by then. 

44 minutes ago, TeeDeeEye said:

Yes same here, took out a lease for 2 years back in April. All the bugs on the karoq should be ironed out by then. 

 

Yes, same here, started a 2 year deal last October.

 

Of course, the next car might not be a Skoda if the price is wrong or other makes have much more sensible deals.  Happy to stay with Skoda but not if I have to pay loads more for the privilege.

Yes, it's going to be a couple of years when I'm due to change and will be considering the Karoq.

 

But may not be a Skoda or any VWG model if a good trade deal is not forthcoming following Brexit. 

Well it looks as if a decision has been made.

After a long discussion with the dealer, and much number crunching we have established that there is no way that he can get anywhere near the current deal i have on my Yeti.

I'll now wait and see what the Karoq is like and what deals will be on offer when it is launched, in the meantime I have the pleasure of my Yeti for another 6 months or so on a cracking deal.

Isn't the Karoq quite a bit bigger than the Yeti?

Yes, I'd continue to enjoy it until January. Then see what is about, on the run-up to January.

 

I'm in the same boat as others with the Karoq - I'd be waiting until it's been out 12-18 months.

4 minutes ago, philbes said:

Isn't the Karoq quite a bit bigger than the Yeti?

 

4,382mm long and 1,841mm wide - 160mm and almost 50mm up on the Yeti’s dimensions.

More load carrying space in a Karoq or a Seat Ateca, but if that is not needed there is the Seat Arona coming out with good engine choices & 400 litres load space.

@DaveLees - a couple of bits of information that may help you make up your mind, if not immediately, then in a month or two. I am in exactly the same situation as you - Yeti on a 2 year PCH that expires at the end of January 2018. The PCH is with VWFS through Simpsons. A month or two back I spoke to Skoda UK about my options at the end of the contract. This was the response:

 

You can't end a PCH early without fully clearing the outstanding payments. There is no 'Voluntary Termination' option for a PCH. So there's no point in handing the car back early, unless perhaps (and it is a tenuous perhaps) you're in danger of going way over the agreed mileage allowance and have a cheaper transport option. They collect the car from you FoC at the end of the agreement.

 

No matter what, at the end of the PCH term, you can extend the term by a further 3 months at exactly the same monthlies as you currently pay. That may sound like a no-brainer, but it is a double edged sword: Because VWFS cars are set to annual service intervals and you aren't supposed to change that, if you take the 3 month extension you will also cop for the second service, which costs c.£250+ so you need to amortise that over the 3 months. You'll see little benefit from the service either and it means that Skoda will inherit a relatively freshly serviced car so their on-costs are reduced. Cunning. To take this option, you just need to call them near the end of the agreement and tell them you want to keep the car for a further 3 months. Simples.

 

As the named hirer, you cannot purchase the car at the end of the agreement. That's law, not VWFS being awkward. Your wife/partner or other family member can buy the car and you can request a purchase price at any time from VWFS - even before the end of the agreement, as I understand it.

 

Around 6 months from the end of your PCH, Skoda should contact you (if your PCH was with Skoda/VWFS and not a broker) and at that point they will give a new monthly rental figure for either a 6 or 12 month extension to the current deal. The figure may be higher or lower than you currently pay and is dictated by the market value of your car. If Yeti values soften, the monthlies will go up. I tried to get a figure out of the assistant, but they were letting nothing on. So expect that call sometime in July.

 

I've come to much the same conclusions as others here. The PCH deals on the Yeti were so generous that no matter what you do, your monthlies are likely to be a lot higher for its replacement. For me that will sting, and SH prices on the Yeti are way more than I want to spend on the car, so January will likely signal the end of my time as a Yeti driver. The Karoq PCH deals are too expensive for my liking, as are those for the Ateca. Instead, I'm going to put the money I would have otherwise spent on the 3-month contract extension and attendant service towards an Audi A2 - a car I've always fancied owning.

 

 

20 minutes ago, Citigopher said:

@DaveLees - a couple of bits of information that may help you make up your mind, if not immediately, then in a month or two. I am in exactly the same situation as you - Yeti on a 2 year PCH that expires at the end of January 2018. The PCH is with VWFS through Simpsons. A month or two back I spoke to Skoda UK about my options at the end of the contract. This was the response:

 

You can't end a PCH early without fully clearing the outstanding payments. There is no 'Voluntary Termination' option for a PCH. So there's no point in handing the car back early, unless perhaps (and it is a tenuous perhaps) you're in danger of going way over the agreed mileage allowance and have a cheaper transport option. They collect the car from you FoC at the end of the agreement.

 

No matter what, at the end of the PCH term, you can extend the term by a further 3 months at exactly the same monthlies as you currently pay. That may sound like a no-brainer, but it is a double edged sword: Because VWFS cars are set to annual service intervals and you aren't supposed to change that, if you take the 3 month extension you will also cop for the second service, which costs c.£250+ so you need to amortise that over the 3 months. You'll see little benefit from the service either and it means that Skoda will inherit a relatively freshly serviced car so their on-costs are reduced. Cunning. To take this option, you just need to call them near the end of the agreement and tell them you want to keep the car for a further 3 months. Simples.

 

As the named hirer, you cannot purchase the car at the end of the agreement. That's law, not VWFS being awkward. Your wife/partner or other family member can buy the car and you can request a purchase price at any time from VWFS - even before the end of the agreement, as I understand it.

 

Around 6 months from the end of your PCH, Skoda should contact you (if your PCH was with Skoda/VWFS and not a broker) and at that point they will give a new monthly rental figure for either a 6 or 12 month extension to the current deal. The figure may be higher or lower than you currently pay and is dictated by the market value of your car. If Yeti values soften, the monthlies will go up. I tried to get a figure out of the assistant, but they were letting nothing on. So expect that call sometime in July.

 

I've come to much the same conclusions as others here. The PCH deals on the Yeti were so generous that no matter what you do, your monthlies are likely to be a lot higher for its replacement. For me that will sting, and SH prices on the Yeti are way more than I want to spend on the car, so January will likely signal the end of my time as a Yeti driver. The Karoq PCH deals are too expensive for my liking, as are those for the Ateca. Instead, I'm going to put the money I would have otherwise spent on the 3-month contract extension and attendant service towards an Audi A2 - a car I've always fancied owning.

 

 

I fully understand what you are saying, I've spoken with VWFS who informed me that if I we're to end my current agreement now (6months early), it would cost me £440, decreasing by around £70 per month. 

I may do an informal extension for 3 months, or look at a 6/12 month extension, depending on the figures quoted. If I take this option the Karoq will have been out for around a year so the teething problems should be sorted, and hopefully so deals will be on offer.