Been away from skoda and the forum for a couple of  years or so, until yesterday. Intrigued what the differences are in real world performance between say the new vrs octy with 245bhp and a remapped mk2 that would have similar. At the time, the effect of the remap was pretty big, so is the difference between the mk2 and mk3 cars just as big or is it list in additional weight or completely different torque curves? 

 

Apologies if in the wrong forum, wasn't quite sure where to ask the question. 

The new 245 has the Golf Performance pack. Bigger front brakes, E-Diff and I think slightly more Touque, 

I would imagine it's significantly different to drive then, that limited slip diff was brilliant in the cupra. 

On 9/10/2017 at 15:57, Auric Goldfinger said:

The new 245 has the Golf Performance pack. Bigger front brakes, E-Diff and I think slightly more Touque, 

Bigger ventilated back brakes & more gears

21 hours ago, themanwithnoaim said:

Bigger ventilated back brakes & more gears

More gears? Have VAG developed a new 7 speed wet clutch DSG then?

 

My 230's got 24 forward gears, 6 in Eco, 6 in normal, 6 in individual and 6 in sport........... Oh! and 4 reverse......

 

 

Edited 12 September, 20178 yr by Auric Goldfinger

4 in reverse? Not sure that profile or mode  settings changes anything  in reverse unless you selected sports mirrors in the options list 

2 hours ago, stever750 said:

More gears? Have VAG developed a new 7 speed wet clutch DSG then?

 

Hmmm not sure its new, I thought it was in the RS5, ment to be able to handle 600Nm

Maybe the Audi only S Tronic? (It's the DL500/501 box)

 

The Golf R / Cupra had the DQ250 box fitted, all of the current Skoda versions use the same box. From my  own and other VAG users experience, the DQ250 is fine up to 500Nm, though the torque limiter means 1-3 is not that quick, and 4-6 is where the real action is. You can remap the gearbox, but of course you risk overheating the clutch plates unless you upgrade the clamp pressure etc etc. My Cupra was measured at 520Nm and I never once had an issue with it.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škoda_Octavia

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-shift_gearbox

 

 

Name	Orientation	Ratios	Max. torque (N·m)	Clutch type
DQ200	Transversal	7	250	Dry
DQ250	Transversal	6	400	Wet
DQ380[20]	Transversal	7	380	Wet
DQ381	Transversal	7	420-430	Wet
DQ500	Transversal	7	600	Wet
DQ511	Transversal	10	550	Wet
DL382	Longitudinal	7	400	Wet
DL501	Longitudinal	7	600	Wet

On 9/12/2017 at 20:24, Auric Goldfinger said:

My 230's got 24 forward gears, 6 in Eco, 6 in normal, 6 in individual and 6 in sport........... Oh! and 4 reverse......

 

 

AND a black spoiler.  Don't forget the black spoiler 

On 12/09/2017 at 20:24, Auric Goldfinger said:

My 230's got 24 forward gears, 6 in Eco, 6 in normal, 6 in individual and 6 in sport........... Oh! and 4 reverse......

 

 

 

1 minute ago, penguin17 said:

AND a black spoiler.  Don't forget the black spoiler 

 

AND a black spoiler, forgot to mention the black Spoiler, silly me................

On ‎9‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 20:08, stever750 said:

More gears? Have VAG developed a new 7 speed wet clutch DSG then?

 

Yup, same as the S3 and / or S5 Im still awaiting confirmation on which it is taken from

 

but as far as I know

On 20/10/2017 at 10:29, ClarkyStu said:

Yup, same as the S3 and / or S5 Im still awaiting confirmation on which it is taken from

 

but as far as I know

 

VRS245 gets the DQ381 box which is reasonably new. Same box in the Golf R and S3 facelifts. Not sure about the S5 but think that has the bigger DQ500.

Edited 4 November, 20178 yr by ahenners

On ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 19:53, ahenners said:

 

VRS245 gets the DQ381 box which is reasonably new. Same box in the Golf R and S3 facelifts. Not sure about the S5 but think that has the bigger DQ500.

Awesome, thankyou for the confirmation

On ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 19:53, ahenners said:

 

VRS245 gets the DQ381 box which is reasonably new. Same box in the Golf R and S3 facelifts. Not sure about the S5 but think that has the bigger DQ500.

Actually iv just done some more digging and it looks as if the DQ381 is for the 4x4 and the DQ380 is the standard front wheel drive (Which we have on the 245)

The DQ380 has ALOT worse numbers against it compared to the DQ381 any other info you have at all?

1 hour ago, ClarkyStu said:

Actually iv just done some more digging and it looks as if the DQ381 is for the 4x4 and the DQ380 is the standard front wheel drive (Which we have on the 245)

The DQ380 has ALOT worse numbers against it compared to the DQ381 any other info you have at all?

 

It was a German article which quotes the DQ381 in the 245:

 

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrberichte/skoda-rs-245-fahrbericht-topmodell-12078308.html

 

They could be wrong though I guess

Edited 6 November, 20178 yr by ahenners

18 hours ago, ahenners said:

 

It was a German article which quotes the DQ381 in the 245:

 

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrberichte/skoda-rs-245-fahrbericht-topmodell-12078308.html

 

They could be wrong though I guess

I hope they are right, although a different box does make sense.
Iv heard from day 1 it was the same box as the S3 (and can take so much more) so I hope that isn't now falling apart :'(

5 minutes ago, ClarkyStu said:

I hope they are right, although a different box does make sense.
Iv heard from day 1 it was the same box as the S3 (and can take so much more) so I hope that isn't now falling apart :'(

 

What's interesting is that you mentioned the box is for 4wd applications, yet I think most of the car's that have this box are Haldex based i.e. mostly fwd until 4wd is required. I wonder if DQ381 can easily be adapted/installed in an FWD for this reason. Perhaps someone with better technical/VAG knowledge will know for sure.

5 hours ago, ahenners said:

 

What's interesting is that you mentioned the box is for 4wd applications, yet I think most of the car's that have this box are Haldex based i.e. mostly fwd until 4wd is required. I wonder if DQ381 can easily be adapted/installed in an FWD for this reason. Perhaps someone with better technical/VAG knowledge will know for sure.

Yeah it was from one of the engineering pages for VW.

I am genuinely interested as the 381 is rated to I think 800 torque and the 380 is only rated to 370

(245 is 350 as far as I know)