Bit of a weird one. 

On occasion when  I park our 17 reg 1.2DSG we take our dog for a walk and then come back. 

Car is on slight slope facing forward in car park. Wife opens the rear n/s door to put pooch in, and its as though the car moves forward ever so slightly giving a creak presumably from either springs, brakes  or caliper??? 

Can't fathom it at all. Handbrake is well on, and Park engaged, and it's before she even puts the dog into the car, so the only difference is that she has opened the door. Weird 

If I then sit in the drivers seat, my wife says she is sure the car moves forward. It doesn't, but it creaks like a 10 year old car. 

I thought  maybe a dry bush or something  like that but having come back from Luton airport up to Newcastle on Tyne on Thursday, through torrential rain, I can't see it's that. And with only 6500 miles on it? 

 

Anyone got any ideas. 

Thanks. 

Edited 23 September, 20178 yr by FurryFriend

Sounds like the handbrake return spring stretching ever so slightly due to a slight load variation on a slope.

If so, pretty normal.

Thanks fella. I'm pretty sure the car doesn't actually move forward, but SWMBO says its weird as it happens when she opens the rear door to put the dog in. 

 

Both of my Roomsters did exactly this.  My Yeti doesn't... yet!

 

I put it down to some interaction between handbrake, rear disc pads, and rear discs cooling whilst parked.

I'm of the same opinion as @Ryeman - i.e. pretty normal.

 

Edit: I have just discovered my Yeti creaks after all

I had become so accustomed to the creak that I no longer "noticed" it.

Edited 23 September, 20178 yr by Robjon

Totally agree with the above. It will almost certainly be handbrake. It doesn't take much movement to get a creak from it. Our Fabia and Yeti both do it. Why not leave the car in Park with the handbrake off and see if you get the same noise?

Ok. Thanks guys. I have now run a couple of tests and the car definitely doesn't move at all. It's just a noise, so we'll just have to live with it. 

I'll mention it at first service, and see if the garage can offer a quietening fix. 

 

Thanks to you all. 

You'll probably get the stock answer "They all do that, Sir".

 

Which on this occasion is the truth 

18 hours ago, FurryFriend said:

I have now run a couple of tests and the car definitely doesn't move at all. It's just a noise

 

and does it only make the noise with the handbrake on, and no noise when it is off ?

Yep, you've got it Robjon.....They'll have an answer....like always .

 

Not sure how I can try that. Always park with both the handbrake on, and gearbox in Park mode.

If I try it without the handbrake on and it rolls....bye bye insurance claim I reckon. I'm not risking it.

 

Think we'll just have to live with it. Only occurs on slight slopes. On flat ground, no noise at all.

 

Just embarrassing on a new car. Sounds like the knackered old brake drums I used to have 30 years ago on my  Ford Cortina ! 

Edited 24 September, 20178 yr by FurryFriend

In Park the wheels are physically locked and cannot move. You do not need the handbrake as well.

 

I could be talking absolute cojones here, but I'm sure I've read several threads in the Yeti section about owners being unable to close the rear hatch without slamming or several attempts due to the vehicle being so well sealed. The solution was to either leave a door or a window open to allow the air/pressure inside to equalise. 

 

Could it be that when your wife opens the door the pressure inside equalises, and it is this that causes the springs or handbrake to creak as they adjust to this pressure change? 

 

 

I think it’s the geometry associated with a locked rear wheel, the trailing suspension arm and the load variation when the dog gets loaded........ever so slightly stretching the spring return.  The nose of the vehicle tends to rise slightly also.

Surely the spring could be greased to eliminate the noise? I don't know. 

Where is it anyway, I might get my overalls on! It's bloody irritating. 

1 minute ago, FurryFriend said:

Surely the spring could be greased to eliminate the noise? I don't know. 

Where is it anyway, I might get my overalls on! It's bloody irritating. 

Grease will only attract dirt.

Its attached to the suspension arm.

Thanks buddy. I might just give it a squirt of silicon in that case. It's driving us both nuts. 

 It's gonna get pretty filthy underneath over the winter anyway, but I'll get the underside lightly steam cleaned in April as I do with all my cars. Keeps the winter salt at bay. 

 

59 minutes ago, FurryFriend said:

Surely the spring could be greased to eliminate the noise? I don't know. 

Where is it anyway, I might get my overalls on! It's bloody irritating. 

 

We are talking about the road springs, which are quite big and situated between the suspension and the body, and are not greased. 

You could always pray for a more complex auto/electric type I have........makes a nice expensive whirring noise.......so far that is.

Thanks guys..... Maybe a hovercraft.  Guess we're going to have to live with it or sell it. 

Have you tried it with the handbrake off?  Park position is a mechanical lockup of the transmission and although it will initially allow the car to move very slightly if on an incline it will not move far. I have never used a handbrake when driving an automatic as it is of no value if the transmission is in Park. Try it and see.

 

If this proves to eliminate the creak, it will save you changing the car

Just don’t put a significant load on the transmission parking pawl.

And of course it's an offence under the Con&Use Regulations not to set the parking brake when leaving a motor vehicle unattended so you'd have to stay with it .

3 hours ago, longedge said:

And of course it's an offence under the Con&Use Regulations not to set the parking brake when leaving a motor vehicle unattended so you'd have to stay with it .

 

I didn't know that, but anyway the suggestion was to see if the creak disappeared which would indicate the noise was from the handbrake mechanism rather than suspension.

Use the parking brake even with Automatics, Automated Manuals, CTV's etc if on a slope, and you are as well to on the flat.

READ THE OWNERS MANUAL & THIS MIGHT GIVE ADVICE.

 

& if weather conditions are severe (very damp, wet, then cold etc) and it is ill advised to use the parking brake, then best chock your wheels and have no parking brake engaged, or just please your self and live and learn or not.

 

Longedge,

?

Was that a 'fun post' or serious?

Any links to which part of 'Construction & Use' tells drivers they must 'set a Parking Brake when parking a vehicle' on public highways or private land, in a garage or any place,  be it a Manual or Automatic with 'P' / Park.

Highwaycode or Traffic Law / Acts / Legislation is another thing though, and worth checking.

Edited 26 September, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

1 hour ago, Headinawayoffski said:

Any links to which part of 'Construction & Use'

Yes - HERE

Cheers so there are Construction and use legislation breakers all over the place. 

If anyone is being prosecuted under British Law or EU Law it must be if a vehicle moves while unattended and it is proven the driver never set the parking brake.

 

Not just these Parking brakes that people do set and then they release & the Dealerships / Manufacturers are not interested in.