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I am new to DSG, having previously had a 2015 Mazda Capella automatic. I am trying to understand the symbols in the Display in our 2015 Fabia DSG. I will be posting quite a few questions! To start with what is the symbol at the bottom left of the display- a bit like a clock face and the words Lim?

 

Secondly, am I correct in thinking that when I stop at say a traffic light, and the symbol which shows what gear I'm in shows a circle with a diagonal line through it then, it will creep when I take my foot off the brake? When we first had the car I noticed an A come up there sometimes but not recently. Sometimes the engine would stop and then restart when I got going. Again I have not noticed it recently. I am curious as to why things have changed since I've been watching it!

 

Many thanks for your help!

The symbol like a clock and " Lim " will be the speed limiter, activated/non activated by the button under the left hand stalk. Once a set speed has been imputed the car will not go any faster.

Regarding your second question.

 

The Stop/Start mechanism is responsible for the circle with the A in it being displayed, when it has a diagonal line through it it means that the Stop[/Start functionality is disabled. This has nothing to do with creep.

 

Whether or not S/S actually switches off the engine depends on two things: 1) Does the electronics consider that the conditions are suitable for a restart; insufficient battery change will prevent it, - our Fabia rarely switches off because it does short journeys and the battery is considered to have insufficient charge - a run of 40 miles will reinstate the S/S.You will find many posts on here about S/S being somewhat unpredictable, I think having DRL's on all the time with short journeys is probably why S/S is rarely operational. Is the engine up to temperature - a cold engine won't be switched off. Fabia TSI engines warm up very quickly though. 2)  How hard the brake pedal is pressed, If S/S switches the engine off, its possible to restart it by slightly reducing the pressure on the brake pedal - there is a point when the engine will start but the clutches will do not engage.

 

As to creep, there is a view (not held by myself) that the DSG can't creep because it is not an automatic gearbox. Whilst its true its not a traditional automatic gearbox, it has gears and clutch (actually there are two clutches)  like a conventional manual gearbox, it is the operation of the clutches and gear shifting which is automated, and, in my view, will creep in the same way as a  manual will creep by slipping the clutch.  

 

I believe your Mazda may have had a CVT transmission (the latest incarnation of the DAF variomatic belts and pulley system) which is quite different to the Skoda DSG box, which is far better.

As well as above, 

you have Hill Hold Assist, so you may not press the brake hard enough for Stop / Start or Stop / Start can be inhibited for the various reasons above, 

but the Hill Hold Assist needs the brake pedal pressed form enough to then function, holding the car for a couple of seconds as your foot goes from Brake Pedal to the Accelerator.

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Thank you all for your replies. I see now that as I drive it on short journeys the Stop Start will not be coming on. When we go to Scotland soon, with my husband driving, I will now know what and why. I found the engine stopping disconcerting as there is a part of my brain from the old days (I am 74) that is not sure whether the engine will start. I certainly find the Hill Hold useful. My husband still wants to put the gear in neutral, like he did on the Honda automatic,  when we stop briefly. I suppose this is sensible in a traffic jam. He feels that otherwise the engine is working against the brake.

Thanks again.

A car operation manual comes with the car! I suggest you read through that, it is extensive and comprehensive. 

Your husband was taught well and follows the Highway Code where when stopped for prolonged times you should apply the hand brake and not sit with the Brake lights possibly shining at road users behind. (especially when in Scotland...)

Pity that most Skoda Models now with 'Auto Hold' have the rear brake lights come on, while many VW Group vehicles do not have that when stationary.

 

Enjoy the trip to Scotland,

Stop / Start might well be non functioning in parts of Scotland today where temps are still below 4*oC.

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Interestingly the Stop Start functioned for me yesterday- the first cold day! BTW Skomie6, I have spent a long time reading the handbook -all 200 pages of it- but can't take it all in, especially when I don't understand some of the concepts. Since getting these helpful comments I have gone back to the handbook and it makes more sense now.

It has taken me a while to get to grips that there are no 'sidelights' so when it is gloomy I only have the running lights (which I had never heard of before and had to Google) and no rear lights. So I suppose I should then use dipped headlights.

Thanks again.

There are Sidelights which work front and rear, you can switch them on and then headlights as well, required by law and fitted in Europe to vehicles,

but why would you just want sidelights on if ii is gloomy, Dipped Headlights and Sidelights both on are perfect.

 

Those DRL's / Daytime Running Lights that come on automatically are Daylight Running Lights really, as Daytime can have poor visibility / low light / gloomy obviously.

Driver input needed, as even Auto Lights might not be putting Dipped Headlights and tail lights on when you need them, and other drivers or road users expect cars to have rear lights illuminated.

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I'm puzzled as I see no reference to sidelights in the manual and was assuming there weren't any! The Lightswitch has a position I at first assumed was sidelights but it turns out to be parking Lights. I don't have Autolights. I have been using dipped headlights when gloomy- as it always is down our tree covered lane!

Those are 'Sidelights or some call Position lights' as all vehicles have.   Parking lights are on when Parked, your other half that remembers the Highway Code knows Parking Lights are for when Parked and no Street Lights.

Put the indicator stalk down when the ignition is off, exit the car, one Sidelight on the front and rear.  Ie Parked.  Left side or right side dependent on Indicator Stalk.

*Parking lights should be explained in that Owners manual and not Lost in Translation from German, Czech, Spanish to English or US English.*

 

Many things are new, but Construction & Use and the UK highway code is pretty unchanged for the past 60 years.

(Back to when Parking Lights plugged into Cigarette lighter sockets and were clipped onto the drivers window.)

Parking Rules at Night UK _ Park on a Hill or in Fog.mhtml

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Yes, I remember parking and leaving sidelights on. I understand parking lights.

You say use sidelights and dipped headlights when gloomy but where is the switch for sidelights!

The Light switch, the one you say puts on Parking Lights,

that is Sidelights on front and rear, then one more movement and Sidelights & Headlights on.

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Ah! No separate switch for sidelights and they aren't even mentioned in the manual. Thank you so much.

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