Hello

 

I have bought a Skoda Scout 2017 and want to know if it is 4x4 or AWD ? Also want to buy some winter tyres for it and have been told to buy Neiken D3 what does anyone else use the wheels are 225 50 17  Thank you

it'll push power to the rear wheels when the fronts start to spin. 4x4 or AWD tend to mean the same thing... the specifics of how power is moved around are the interesting bit. 

 

If the tyres you're referring to are Nokian D3, then they're decent. Nice grip down through -20 or so. They seem to test well. I've been running Nokians for years, but in slightly colder conditions than you.

 

 - Bret

 

 

 

 

following with interest

 

4WD is permanent drive to all 4 wheels at the same time always...

 

AWD is drive to the wheels which need it most......& usually it is a FWD (front wheel drive) all the time with a haldex coupling which shifts power to the rears (still retaining power to fronts) when & only when the fronts start losing grip, & or other parameters are met within the controlling ecu 

 

225/45R17 should be the correct size for most MQB platform cars...& I run Michelin Alpin A5's but they are 3yrs old...

So Long story short there is a 4X4 badge and not centre diff or locking diffs, just haldex so Part Time AWD and that means sometimes no drive to any wheel can happen, 

just spin and try for traction so good tyres are a great idea.

Thanks for the help and yes Nokian are the tyres was thinking about! Thank you

Have a look here    http://www.skoda.co.uk/why-skoda/4x4

 

That is a good site explains the 4x4 well. Cheers

59 minutes ago, fabdavrav said:

225/45R17 should be the correct size for most MQB platform cars...& I run Michelin Alpin A5's but they are 3yrs old...

 

Scout uses 225/50/17 oddly enough. Non Scout models on 17's all seem to be 225/45/17 though as you say.

+1 for the Nokian D3s. Not tried in snow, but good in U.K. wet/icy winter conditions.

I run a 2014 Octavia Tour de France 4x4 2litre 150 hp currently booted with Dunlop Blue Response 205 55 r16 91v.

I am looking to replace them with Michelin Cross Climate plus but don't seem able to get this tyre in 91v only 94v or 91h.

Am I safer going for the 94v or is the 91h up to the job?

The car goes to France and back regularly and I wouldn't want to risk any wine spillages on the way back.

Thanks for any advice.

91 is sufficient (that's the load rating). V is better than H for speed rating.  So I'd probably err towards 94V.

Can't say I like the squidge induced by allseason tyres, though....

 

 - Bret

11 minutes ago, brettikivi said:

91 is sufficient (that's the load rating). V is better than H for speed rating.  So I'd probably err towards 94V.

Can't say I like the squidge induced by allseason tyres, though....

 

 - Bret

Thanks Bret probably need to decide between the all weather or put a new set of Dunlop Blue response on, signs are we are in for a bad winter and I live in a hilly spot.

I fitted Continental TS 850’s (225/50/17)  to my 2015 Scout and they are easily the best I’ve ever had.  Way better than the Michelin  Alpins I had on my Passat. The grip is incredible. In the Alps last year in thick and falling snow the car stayed rock solid even round the hairpins.

Just pick a premium branded tyre in the price range you have.

In Switzerland the TCS do a winter tyre test every year & the winner is almost always the Conti Winter Contact TS850/860/8xx.

As a result everyone here buys these & thus its always in stock with a good price compared with other comparable tyres.

Continental TS860s on mine. If you can get them in the size you want IMHO they are the ones to fit.

 

Some winter tyres are less than optimal in the wet and the that is something we get a lot in the UK.  The TS860s have been designed to deal with it. Had them all last winter and they never missed a beat. I cannot fault them in UK winter weather.

 

The previous Continentals were always amongst the best on snow/ice and the very cold (had TS830s for years and loved them) but these latest ones are substantially improved in more normal conditions whilst not losing any of the winter performance.

Conty TS860 is the best tire for this winter for your dimension, if you can afford it.

 

 

Nokian D4 tyres on our Scout. Used them to great effect on my old Vectra. The D4 is also A rated for wet weather which we get a lot of in the UK.

49 minutes ago, fagin said:

Nokian D4 tyres on our Scout. Used them to great effect on my old Vectra. The D4 is also A rated for wet weather which we get a lot of in the UK.

 

Nokian tyres are good and well regarded. I have used them myself however the 'A rating' is quite a broad brush.

 

The D4 did not fare all that well in the wet tests in some sizes and was one of the reasons I did not fit them. From one of the tests (Autoexpress)

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/93100/nokian-wr-d4-review

 

Very good winter tyre for the price but It would be a bit hit and miss if it preformed in the wet.

it's wet ice that really seperates the wheat from the chaff... interestingly enough, Autobild rated the 17" 225/50R17 as "acceptable". Either is better than summer tyres in snow.

 

The pics on that Autoexpress article remind me about track - we'll be back on it in 11 weeks and it's going to be awesome

 

 - Bret

 

On 11/6/2017 at 19:20, Cymru Blackline said:

+1 for the Nokian D3s. Not tried in snow, but good in U.K. wet/icy winter conditions.

Have had these on for 2 x winter's now and used numerous times in the snow in the last couple of months. Very good tyre in the snow and cold/wet weather generally, I've kept going when 90% of other traffic has been struggling (helps mine is a 4x4 as well though I guess).

Hi Eddiek,

 

I'm running Continental TS 860 all round (obligatory pics of mine below ).  They are the 2nd set I have run on a car and they are very good in my opinion.  In testing the Contis scored very well all round where as you sometimes find that some tyres excel in one area and do poorly in others.

 

Having driven the Contis in snow and ice they grip very well and braking is vastly better on the cold white stuff compared to normal tyres.  They also do very well in the wet and the car feels really shore footed.  The Nokian tyres you quote do get good reviews and were a consideration but opted for Contis as I had them previously.

 

I did make the mistake of buying cheap winter tyres years ago on my A4 Quattro and they were appalling in the wet and wore very badly.

 

 

Edited 13 March, 20188 yr by ScoutCJB

Just taken those off at the weekend, conti 860, great tyres, defeated the beast! 

A good shopping site is Mr winter wheels, car up for sale so these will be soon too

My 2015 Scout fitted with Conti 850’s proved to be virtually unstoppable - we had some badly drifted up roads.  It just went through 18” drifts.  Basically if a Landrover could get through so could the Scout.  However I did discover how the AWD really works when I had to stop in a drift at the top of a hill due to a Mini in the ditch.  First attempt to get going again, car not keen to move as the Haldex was slow to react without prior wheel rotation.  Pressed the button to deactivate traction control as per book and the car came straight out as all 4 wheels had equal power- you could definitely feel the difference.