just found this pdf for diesel and petrol, super geeky techie stuff; engine, suspension spec and etc....

 

https://cdn.skoda-storyboard.com/2017/09/TD-KAROQ-en.pdf
 

 

Thanks vadimo.  Very interesting link. 

 

In particular I now see that the DSG gearbox with the new 1.5TSI engine has dry clutches (those on the 2.0 TDI are wet clutches).  I had understood VW were changing to wet DSG clutches as the oil helps prevent overheating in severe uphill stop/start driving, such as in nose to tail traffic on a steep incline.

 

Looking around on the site you linked to I came across the very interesting launch Press Kit http://skoda-karoq.presskitservice.com/.  Whilst this only deals with the specs for European models (Ambition and Style) it does give much more info than I have been able to glean so far, and provide it in a single source.

 

Disappointingly for me, it seems as if the beige interior is only linked with a black headlining.  I was hoping it was linked to a beige headlining, as with other Skoda models, as it seems to me to defeat the perceived benefit of a lighter interior.

18 minutes ago, Portman said:

Thanks vadimo.  Very interesting link. 

 

In particular I now see that the DSG gearbox with the new 1.5TSI engine has dry clutches (those on the 2.0 TDI are wet clutches).  I had understood VW were changing to wet DSG clutches as the oil helps prevent overheating in severe uphill stop/start driving, such as in nose to tail traffic on a steep incline.

 

i didnt know that maybe its to do with torque on higher powered cars and dry for lesser...

 

19 minutes ago, Portman said:

Disappointingly for me, it seems as if the beige interior is only linked with a black headlining.  I was hoping it was linked to a beige headlining, as with other Skoda models, as it seems to me to defeat the perceived benefit of a lighter interior.

 

interesting find, good info.

 

i would have to say the opposite and its is down to personal choice. I find its too much beige if its on the headline and pillars, you have to have contrast and i am glad they changed it from Kodiaq 

13 minutes ago, vadimo said:

 

i didnt know that maybe its to do with torque on higher powered cars and dry for lesser...

 

You could well be right

13 minutes ago, vadimo said:

 

 

interesting find, good info.

 

i would have to say the opposite and its is down to personal choice. I find its too much beige if its on the headline and pillars, you have to have contrast and i am glad they changed it from Kodiaq 

 

Each to their own.  I agree you can have light colour (or dark colour) overload, but a dark headlining gives me a claustrophobic feeling, as does an all dark interior from the window-line downwards - a typical trim approach these days to car interiors.

The dry-clutch DSG has some advantages. It is lighter and "sealed for life", so does not require any servicing. It is also covered under warranty for six times lomger than a manual gearbox and clutxh assembly (3yr's / 60K miles vs 6 months / 6K miles for the manual).

 

The wet clutch is undoubtedly stronger, but on a 1.0 or 1.5 petrol it will be cheaper to produce, provide better economy and very slightly better performance. I have driven the dry-dsg within a 1.4TSI Octavia  and it behaves the same as the wet. The biggest disadvantage of the dry-dsg is lack of launch-control.

 

 

1 hour ago, Orville said:

The dry-clutch DSG has some advantages. It is lighter and "sealed for life", so does not require any servicing. It is also covered under warranty for six times lomger than a manual gearbox and clutxh assembly (3yr's / 60K miles vs 6 months / 6K miles for the manual).

 

The wet clutch is undoubtedly stronger, but on a 1.0 or 1.5 petrol it will be cheaper to produce, provide better economy and very slightly better performance. I have driven the dry-dsg within a 1.4TSI Octavia  and it behaves the same as the wet. The biggest disadvantage of the dry-dsg is lack of launch-control.

 

 

 

Where do you get the info from that one type is covered for a shorter time than the other?  I have seen that "wear and tear" items are covered for six months (but didn't see a mileage limit) so can accept a clutch may not be covered for more than that time but I haven't seen where they would include a gearbox as being a "wear and tear" item nor that the DSG box/clutches is treated any differently.  Nor for that matter that wet clutches are treated differently.

4 hours ago, Portman said:

 

Where do you get the info from that one type is covered for a shorter time than the other?  I have seen that "wear and tear" items are covered for six months (but didn't see a mileage limit) so can accept a clutch may not be covered for more than that time but I haven't seen where they would include a gearbox as being a "wear and tear" item nor that the DSG box/clutches is treated any differently.  Nor for that matter that wet clutches are treated differently.

Unfortunately, I found out from experience. Read here if you want the full details.

 

As a sealed-unit the DSG clutch and gearbox are covered by the full 3-year 60K mile standard warranty. I think the idea being that as gear-changes and clutch-control are automated (not physically moved by the driver), then Skoda is responsible for any faults. With a manual car, the clutch and gearbox can be "more-affected" by the driver, so they are only covered for 6-months / 6K miles (whichever comes first). When my manual clutch failed at 17K miles Skoda played the wear & tear card and didn't bother to investigate a clear fault. I payed for an independent engineering inspection, that proved a clear manufacturing defect on the clutch plate. Skoda paid out in-full (including additional expenses) before it went to court.

 

Edit: Hence, I will never buy a Skoda (VAG) car with a manual gearbox again. I was actually never going to buy another Skoda, but current PCH deals are ridiculously cheap and I will give the car back before DSG warranty expires.

Edited 4 January, 20188 yr by Orville

8 hours ago, Orville said:

Unfortunately, I found out from experience. Read here if you want the full details.

 

As a sealed-unit the DSG clutch and gearbox are covered by the full 3-year 60K mile standard warranty. I think the idea being that as gear-changes and clutch-control are automated (not physically moved by the driver), then Skoda is responsible for any faults. With a manual car, the clutch and gearbox can be "more-affected" by the driver, so they are only covered for 6-months / 6K miles (whichever comes first). When my manual clutch failed at 17K miles Skoda played the wear & tear card and didn't bother to investigate a clear fault. I payed for an independent engineering inspection, that proved a clear manufacturing defect on the clutch plate. Skoda paid out in-full (including additional expenses) before it went to court.

 

Edit: Hence, I will never buy a Skoda (VAG) car with a manual gearbox again. I was actually never going to buy another Skoda, but current PCH deals are ridiculously cheap and I will give the car back before DSG warranty expires.

 

so you stuck to your guns and won, painful. you think you would of had easier task if it was PCP? 

 

never knew this before especially manual gearbox vs automatic wear and warranty cover.

 

I wonder if I extend my purchase to 5 years what are the warranty claim limits or what it doesn't cover.

The 6 months / 6,500 miles is there OK.

But that is T&C's that are often nonsense and a VW Group wish and dream if they have Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Material or Workmanship failings, 

and they often can be, and poor Quality Control.

So what they might want to dismiss means nothing. 

http://skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf 

Page 4.

Edited 5 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

17 hours ago, Orville said:

I was actually never going to buy another Skoda, but current PCH deals are ridiculously cheap and I will give the car back before DSG warranty expires.

Can you say where you've found a good deal and roughly the price? Simpsons quoted a 1.5TSI dsg SE Tech for about £284 per month over 2 years (averaging out the initial payment on top of the £189 notional monthly cost)

15 hours ago, vadimo said:

so you stuck to your guns and won, painful. you think you would of had easier task if it was PCP?

My car was on PCP, and it was a real pain to prove the CLEARLY VISIBLE manaufacturing-defect to Skoda.

 

6 hours ago, wonkyewok said:

Can you say where you've found a good deal and roughly the price? Simpsons quoted a 1.5TSI dsg SE Tech for about £284 per month over 2 years (averaging out the initial payment on top of the £189 notional monthly cost)

I ordered from Marshall Fleet Centre at the end of November. Same car as your's, 1.5 SE Tech DSG in Candy White. Initial 1x £1555  plus 23 x £173 pm. Unfortunately, Lease prices seem to have gone up quite a bit as of January 1st. I think VAG has a policy of filling the order-books early upon launch of new models, so that the factory can run close to full-speed and cars are seen on the streets. There are some cracking deals on VW T-Roc's at the moment.