Well it had to happen, I've been treating my citigo with utter contempt, the passenger footwell is a bombsite from multiple long journeys where many consumables were taken and used.

 

This morning the fan system decided to consume a wrapper, probably a double decker by the sound it's making.

 

So... anyone got a manual of how to take the dash apart so I can find it?

 

It's making a god awefull "playing card in the spokes" sound, I can't hear radio 4 over it.

 

I did half joke when .I said I could really do with a van I could just powerwash out... so from a now slightly grumpy owner who hath only himself and a problem with double deckers while travelling... any suggestions?

 

I am kind of chuckling...

 

 

 

There might well be similarity with this: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/60114-how-to-fix-noisy-fabia-ventilation-fan/

Not sure whether there will be trim panels that need removing for access on a Citigo, but the executive summary is something like "put it in recirculate mode, switch off the engine so it stays with recirc-flap open, stick hand up through recirc air intake to feel around on the back of the fan blades for debris".

 

Makes me wonder why do you use air recirculation? 

 

It's only needed when car and ambient temperature is very high and want to cool down the temperature inside of the car with air-conditioning. 

^^^ 

Or sitting in gridlock behind Vans, Busses etc because the UK is not yet ensuring polluters are taken off the road.

Are you serious? Air circulation because of busses? I didn't know it's so bad in UK. I've been in London but didn't notice such a problem. As a pedestrian. 

It can be pretty bad at times here too.. 

Good luck with hunting down the offending plastic!

Swmbo had a broken dash clip that nearly made an alcoholic. .. it got found under warranty, but i did get told the full dash disassembly bit is a pita..

Emil,

Go to Edinburgh then and sit behind the busses as you wait for the lights to change as a clean tram passes.

 

Or just behind some old van anyplace any time.

Because so hot that you need to put on recirculation to get the A/C to cool the car might not be that common in some areas of the UK.

 

Clue how bad it can be is what your cars air filter looks like rather quickly in some cities, where as in the countryside it may last as Manufacturers Servicing Guidelines indicate.

Edited 19 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

Actually I've been in Edinburgh too. Didn't drive there though. 

 

Air inside a car can't be very good if it is circulated long periods of time. And soon you can't see anything because steamy windows. 

Nobody mentioned long period of times til you did.

If you are getting the fumes in the air vent and opening the windows make it even worse it might be for a couple of minutes until you get away from the exhaust pipe / engine in front.

 

Not rocket science. Just something else a car has for use when you want to use it. Or need to use it,

& as it is there are Air Intakes on cars that close as you reverse so your own fumes are not coming in the passenger cabin.

 

eg.

Edited 20 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

Super tips thanks.

 

All vehicles are pumping out nox. Some you can see, some you cannot. Any traffic I'm sat in or behind I try to put on recirc. Then once moving open up, a window etc. I imagine any city is the same, any town, anywhere. When there is density like London there is such an ambient nox it's palatable. Sheffield where I am is also in the top n of air pollution areas. It's a city between 7 hills. So the air on the hills lovely, all drifting down and trapping traffic, industry nox. Not quite china like levels of smog, but you know... you can taste it some mornings.

 

Even walking I'm aware of say a line of car at lights. If the lights change I hold my breathe; training, till they have begun at least to move and there is some air flow.

 

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Hoping I can avoid the dash disassembly. Got some wire coat hangers, and thankfully it sounds like it wants to fall out...just have to encourage it.

On ‎19‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 08:58, Wino said:

 ..."put it in recirculate mode, switch off the engine so it stays with recirc-flap open, stick hand up through recirc air intake to feel around on the back of the fan blades for debris".

 

A bit of lateral thinking...

Probably a daft suggestion...

Happy to be shot down in flames...

 

Something like a leaf blower, on low setting, aimed at one of the other vents to blow the wrapper back from whence it came?

 

Or.. put it on recirc, set to face vent

close all bar one vent,

And then, put a hoover up against the air intake and suck it back?

At least then any dust etc gets sucked up rather than blown into the cabin?

Just viewed a Michael Moseley health program (as I'm in Australia it is probably a couple of years old) where he walked around London with a device on his back assessing air quality and particularly (um) particulates.

Anyway the detailed analysis showed reasonably low levels with occasional spikes when in proximity of a bad polluting vehicle but the amusing bit was near the end of the graph with a sustained very high (bad) reading that turned out to be during the taxi journey back to the office.

They concluded the taxi ventilation intake was sucking fumes from the exhaust of the vehicles in front.

So walking the streets of London was less damaging than riding in a taxi.

 

About four years back I had a sudden dreadful sound from the ventilation fan on my mk2 Octavia. A google search brought up a similar complaint on Briskoda, but unfortunately no solution, but the same search had revealed a youtube video on accessing the fan where I found an old paid parking ticket that had slipped down inside the front window.

I then joined Briskoda to update the thread with the solution, and the rest as they say 'is history'.

Sorry, but I have no experience with the Citigo whatsoever.

Edited 26 January, 20188 yr by Gerrycan