interior Ashtray not closing

[pdpyen]

Hello All,

I have a Octavia MK1 2003 1.9TDi Ambiente  RHD. Cloaked around 90000KMS.

The issue i have is with the ash tray Part No 1U2857962.

Its always with its mouth open no matter how many times you try to close it.

I have posted few images which describe the condition of the bin and holder.

I did read a suggestion to *drill* somewhere, but dint understand that post and hence this one(considering the age of other posts).

I appreciate any suggestions in getting this resolved.

 

[pdpyen]

Part 1:

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What you may need?

Nose pliers

Drill gun and 0.8 or 1 mm drill bit (picture 3)

cutting pliers

WD40

Screw or something suitable to pivot (Pic 7-12)

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Part 2:

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What you may need?

Digital V-caliper to measure the screw gauge

If you observe picture 14, you can see the screw inserted and both the ends have 1 mm length.

This is intentional as you may need to tune it accordingly.

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final outcome

[pdpyen]

In this post, ill try  my best (in my humble opinion) to explain what i did to get the tray shut when you push it in and open, when you press it.

  

Please use safety measures as applicable

 

 

1. You'll need to remove the complete part (1U2857962) from the dash. It has 4 torx screws. 2 below the AC/fan control knobs 2 below the gear lever.

Disassemble the tray to 3 parts, a.Tray upper part b.tray holder c.bin.

 

2. Please note the position of the spring (indicated in the final outcome post) which might(read may) haunt you later which will go off if you try to open and close the tray. I forgot to note this and this took me days to figure it out, though this was fixed much before.

3.refer to post 

Part 1:

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Here, i have posted few image(s) of the interior of the tray. (bin image as well)

Youll need to find a screw (preferably) as per the dimensions indicated via vernier.

Note that your mileage may vary depending upon the screw you chose.

4. After deciding the right screw(or whatever), youll find a small mark on the upper portion of the tray which moves up and down. On one end you can see (ideally a small 1 mm mark) the portion which is broke r lost or whatever which is needed to guide the mechanism to "Lock" and "Unlock".

5. Drill time.

Before that, mark the position you want to drill using a marker or whatever you believe is right.

And, If you have gone by my suggestion, youll have a 1mm screw and a 1 mm HSS drill bit. 

Carefully, very carefully start drilling by holding the top portion in one hand and the drill gun on the other. You RPM shouldnt be high as you may(or might) miss the mark rendering the unit slightly dysfunctional. 

If you are sure of the marking, proceed drilling gradually. As you reach the other end hold the pice tight as it might snug off a little, which shouldnt happen if enough care is taken.

6. Screw part. 

Use WD40 (or similar) and spray a little on the screw and some inside the newly drilled hole.

Use a little force as you can and start to tighten the screw. If the specifications are as what i have used, youll see something similar to LAST IMAGE IN 

Part 2:

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7. Now, a little bit of understanding of how this usually works, refer to:

Part 1:

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Images 3 to 6. 

 

This describes how the mechanism works internally. The screw will guide the mechanism to slide and stop at a position when the tray is closed.

This means, that the tray will close with or without the bin. (Yes! With or without you - U2)

Now, though it seems a little tough, its not as what it seems to be.

Adjusting the screw to a "Point" is the key here. Use caution to not over tighten which may crack the body or danmage the mechanism.(Youve been warned many times by now)

To test this, re-attach the spring which you removed while dis-assembling the tray. (Refer to images in last post)

My way was to keep  the upper portion of tray open. This is the best position i considered it to be to attach the spring. 

place the spring on the cylinder(dont know what else i could call it) with one end facing down, now you may to use nose pliers to wind it and position it as shown in the image. Test the tension by keeping your finger on the spring to ensure it doesn't snap off. (happened with me)  If it does, please re-seat it accordingly.   

Fine tune the screw according to your satisfaction.

now you should have got this issue resolved. (ideally)

 

After final assemble your tray will funtion as it should provided you handle it wise.

Note that this may not be THE soluition for some and may be for some so suityourselves accordsingly.

 

8. The last part is testing the tray with bin.

This is a little tricky. Sometimes the guiding lines are damaged( as in my case) which guide the bin to sllide back and forth in the tray.

Youll have to use some grease over the teeth and try it out a couple of tyimes (or more maybe) to find an ideal position whihc slides easy.

However, if it doesnt fit in, may be the issue is somewhere else and you may have to LOOK into it deeper.

This is the usual issue in Part # 1U2857962.

 

Hope this helps someone.

 

And im open for any knowledge transfer, which includes criticism or better ideas or anything that you want to convey.

 

I will try to assist the person who would wish to do it provided adequate info is provided.

 

Dhanyavaada!

[Skof]

On 28/04/2018 at 04:37, pdpyen said:

resultado final

Hello folk's

How do I hold the spring? When I open the ashtray, the spring jumps out and I don't know why..