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Boot/door drainage on kodiaq

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I have had my Kodiaq for one year now. The car is fine except that after it has rained water that seems to collect in the top of the boot lid. The right side holds water and then when you open the boot it runs down the door jam. It doesn't do is so much on the left hand side. I have asked the Skoda dealer if they can do something about this, and so far they have said it is in the design. I have asked if their technical team at head office has a view. I am still waiting.

Has anyone else noticed this with their Kodiaq, and if so, did you get it fixed.

 

Generally the door jamb is the drainage route. As long as the water isn't inside the seal I wouldn't worry.

As above, this is where the water is supposed to run. It's outside of the seal...

 

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Dear Both

Thank you for coming back to me. I am presuming that you have noticed the same thing. The water doesn't get into the car and tracks down the outside of the seals.

Best wishes

 

Im unsure if you're complaining about it or just commenting? Every vehicle uses the same type of drainage though.

I haven't got my Kodiaq yet, but this method of drainage from the roof and surface of the boot lid when opened is pretty standard across all manufacturers.

 

The only issue you're likely to see is if the car has lots of polish or wax on it. The beaded water can sometimes overwhelm the channels or run off so fast it still makes its way into the boot. The solution is to open the boot slowly, which on the Kodiaq might not be easy if you have the electric boot.

  • ColinD changed the title to Boot/door drainage on kodiaq

Not really noticed to be honest. Snow foam gathers in there when I'm cleaning it but that's to be expected. Have to direct the hose into the 'gap' when rinsing but it's not an issue. :) 

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Hi all, 

I don't think I have explained myself properly, and perhaps I should have given better detail. The issue is with the rain and generally water. For example. when it rains water sits in the top of the boot lid. After a day or so when it hasn't rained and the boot has not been opened the water is still there. It doesn't drain away. Consequently when the boot is opened the water then runs out of the top of the door and then down the gully's and out onto the ground. Unless I open the door fully it doesn't run away.  I wish I could add a photo, but you can't see the water until it runs out. 

 

Thank you for all your comments. I am not complaining. However, I wondered if this was a common feature for other Kodiaq owners. 

Best wishes

 

Ah, now that is something different.

 

Do you have any more information on where the water is getting stuck?

 

Is it in the boot lid itself, or in the recess running along the top of the rubber seal, i.e. on the car body itself?

 

That does indeed sound unusual. I don't like the idea of excess water sitting inside a potentially unpainted / protected part of the cars metal bodywork for prolonged periods...

 

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Are you able to see where the water is draining from i.e the source?

 

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Hi 

It is not entirely clear where it is coming from, but we think it is coming from the recess along the top of the boot lid. The difficulty seeing is that it is only apparent when you open the boot. I can't see down the side of the boot lid when it is closed as it is so snug against the car. we have been concerned about the potential rust issue further down the line. Skoda, say, however that the metal is treated with something ???? that prevents rust !!.  We have been concerned that although unlikely, any severe frost might result in the glass breaking over time.

I am not clear where I go from here, but I thought if anyone out there had the same problem, and has had it resolved, then I might get the garage to acknowledge the issue.

best wishes

 

Sounds like your the only one so far.

 

When it next happens stand next to the car as the boot opens and see if you can see where the water is coming from.

 

Is the car parked on a slope i.e could the water be pooling temporarily?

 

Whilst I'm sure the inside of the bodywork is protected, it isn't designed to be permanently submerged in water. Don't be fobbed off by an uninterested dealer or unknowledgeable customer service agent at Skoda UK.

 

Take pictures / a video on your phone.

 

It'll be worth getting it properly diagnosed.

 

Here is my 2011 Skoda Superb with the boot open. She's getting a little long in the tooth now and it'll have been retired well before this becomes an issue, but it does at least cast some doubt on Skoda's claims that 'all metal work is well protected'.

 

I assume water is entering the boot lid through the rear light clusters. It always drains out when opened through those holes in the carpet liner...

 

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  • 4 months later...
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Dear All,

The problem has been SOLVED. Eventually after sending a strongly worded email to the garage, they agreed to look at the car. The issue was with the fins on the side of the boot. It's those side pieces that make the boot lid look nice. The water is supposed to run through them and away when water goes down the door. However, as they are stuck on with some sort of glue, the glue was spread into the grooves underneath causing a blockage. So when the door was open the water that was trapped could  only run back up the channels and out of the top. I had new ones fitted to both sides of the door and I am pleased ( and relieved ) to report that the all is well. So simple to resolve but very frustrating. 

Best wishes

Quilty

Good result.

 

I guess the one reassuring element to this saga is that if it had remained unresolved there would be little chance of rust or corrosion. The fins are plastic and glued to the rear window, so very little, if any, contact to a metal part of the car...

 

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So true........... Very good result eventually. The most painful part was not knowing where the water was coming from and where it was going. Big sigh of relief. I hope you are enjoying your new Kodiaq. Sadly Mine has now developed starting problems. Garage thinks it might be a defective battery. Deep joy !!!

 

Check the battery, if it is manufactured by MOLL then it is defective.

 

They are being replaced with Varta batteries under warranty, but unfortunately high demand means some Kodiaq owners are being put in courtesy cars for up to two weeks waiting for stock to arrive.

 

You don't want to see MOLL on the top of the battery. Actually you do because then it'll identify the fault and ensure you get a new battery under warranty... 

 

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Don't mess around with the dealer, next time it fails to start ring Skoda Assist and they'll come to you, hopefully with a new battery on their vehicle.

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Hi Silver, 

Thank you for the advice. I will go and get ready to do battle again !!

Best wishes

Quilty

On 06/12/2018 at 11:30, silver1011 said:

Check the battery, if it is manufactured by MOLL then it is defective.

 

They are being replaced with Varta batteries under warranty, but unfortunately high demand means some Kodiaq owners are being put in courtesy cars for up to two weeks waiting for stock to arrive.

 

You don't want to see MOLL on the top of the battery. Actually you do because then it'll identify the fault and ensure you get a new battery under warranty... 

 

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Don't mess around with the dealer, next time it fails to start ring Skoda Assist and they'll come to you, hopefully with a new battery on their vehicle.

Hi silver, do you know if there is a general recall for these batteries, or is it a matter of waiting for them to fail? I have a MOLL battery fitted to my Karoq - not sure if it's the same model type, I'll have to check. I guess Skoda is keeping this under wraps given the numbers in question, hoping they get to an age were they can say it's wear & tear and not covered under warranty.

 

I'm not too sure to be honest. It only affects certain batch numbers but I've no idea what they are. They do seem to be early cars though (2017).

 

The issue has been reported both on here and the Kodiaq group on Facebook. Perhaps now the colder months and darker nights are upon on they're taking their toll on these weaker batteries?

 

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Oh dear - I have an original Moll battery on my 2014 Superb II. It's OK thus far. Is this a problem with all Moll batteries?

 

When it fails I'll get a Varta as that is the make that was originally fitted to my previous 2003 Superb I pd - and still is after 15 years and 210,000 miles!

 

 

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I'm pretty sure this was a 'faulty batch', and isn't reflective of all MOLL branded batteries.

 

The failures seem to be cropping up on cars around one year old, so your 2014 battery should be good.

Thanks silver :thumbup:

That's good going on your Superb battery big john. My yr 2000 MX5 is still on its original Panasonic battery, albeit looked after on a battery optimiser. They don't make 'em like they used to.

On 13/05/2018 at 20:34, silver1011 said:

It'll be worth getting it properly diagnosed.

 

Here is my 2011 Skoda Superb with the boot open. She's getting a little long in the tooth now and it'll have been retired well before this becomes an issue, but it does at least cast some doubt on Skoda's claims that 'all metal work is well protected'.

 

I assume water is entering the boot lid through the rear light clusters. It always drains out when opened through those holes in the carpet liner...

 

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The bottom of the boot door looks totally different on my twin door - mine is a facelift one.

 

 

Has this had a previous repair? 

 

If it hasn't been repaired and it's rusting from the inside out it may be covered by the bodywork warranty.

 

 

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It's original, never been repaired.

 

No doubt I could pursue a warranty claim, but after a 6 month saga on the bonnet for rust I'm all done with pursuing Skoda :D

 

By the time it gets to the point where it causes issues the rest of the car will be well dead!

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By the time it gets to the point where it causes issues the rest of the car will be well dead!

 

However now I know this is a weak spot I might take off the trim panel on mine to see what is going on - and possibly slap on a bit of rustproofing.  Mine is 4 1/2 years old - no signs of rust yet. Just had a closer look though - there are no drain holes, so what could possibly go wrong!!! Hope those plastic pins come off the trim OK without snapping.

 

My previous Superb I was (and still is under new ownership)  mechanically bullet proof but was starting to suffer from a bit of tin worm, especially around the wheel arches, sills and number plate lights -  So on my 2014 car every year when I swap my winter wheels I have a routine of cleaning wheel arches etc and pushing in an oil/waxoyl mixture and painting suspension threads with the same  (Sad - but I used to restore cars so apply some of my earlier preservation practices). I always give a squirt of 3-in-1 oil around the number plate lights and door bottoms (inside drains) as well. Brake pipes are always greased as well (I've done this for decades on many cars - never had a brake pipe fail an MOT since!).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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