1.8 tsi DSG 2nd gear judder

[andybarsblade]

Random judder when pulling away in 2nd gear, not every time and seems more common on hot days or after being sat in traffic.

 

Is this a common thing with DSG's and is it a simple fix? 

[Cryonut]

What mileage, when was the DSG last serviced? 

[andybarsblade]

What mileage,  65,000 

 

What mileage, when was the DSG last serviced?  - good question, I've only just bought the car (well 4 weeks ago). Is there a standard DSG service I can ask for at a dealer? If so what would the average cost be? 

[Cryonut]

DSG oil should be chaneed every 40K, don't be tempted to have it done on the cheap, i.e. don't use non VAG oil, iirc dealer cost is around £180 or £100 if you diy it,

 

Some info on diy below, 

 

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/dsg-fluid-drain-and-replacement-service-vw-and-audi-stronic-oil-flush/

 

[andybarsblade]

Top man, looks like i have a little job this weekend

[wiilydog]

Do you have a 6 speed or 7 speed dsg? As the 7 speed box does not require any oil service.

[andybarsblade]

7 speed

[andybarsblade]

27 minutes ago, wiilydog said:

Do you have a 6 speed or 7 speed dsg? As the 7 speed box does not require any oil service.

 

I'm confused now? So the fluid is lifetime fluid? Could there be another cause for the judder?

Edited 1 June, 2018 by andybarsblade

[wiilydog]

Yes it is life time fluid in 7 speed box as the clutch is not cooled the oil.  May be its the clutch packs causing the judder and need changing?

[Ootohere]

So the DQ200 7 speed twin dry clutch DSG has 2 possible Service Campaigns. 

 

2009-2012/13 is '34F7'  the Synthetic Oil changed to Mineral & a Software update.

Rest of the World had a World Wide Recall, extended warranties and stuff,

just that Europe is not in the world, VW Group tell governments who is the boss....

(NZ Skoda called a proper Recall a Service Campaign and did the proper job. http://skoda.co.nz/news/dsg-service-campaign 

 

Then 2013-2015 DQ200 from some plants & another Service Campaign started late 2016 /2017  '34H5' Software Update.   Both are free.

 

This UK VIN checker might show the '34F7' if outstanding.  *If a Service Campaign is carried out there should be a sticker in the Spare Wheel well beside the Build Sticker showing the date and where done.

http://master.skoda-auto.com/mini-apps/recall-actions 

Edited 1 June, 2018 by Offski

[HarleQuinn]

I have the 6 speed DSG, It always feels a little juddery in low gears. Mostly felt going from 2nd to 3rd. I had the DSG oil serviced and I had the software updated/reset. It still does it.

 

I think it is normal, something to do with hill stop/hold I think. No one has ever said to me it feels off and it has been driven by Skoda themselves various times.

[Ootohere]

No not normal only with ones not performing correctly or as designed by highly trained and qualified engineers no matter what any VW Group employees might say as being a characteristic.

 

As to a Wet Clutch DSG and a Dry Clutch one even though different, there is no need for it not to behave without issue.

[chrisund123]

2nd gear on my 6 speed is a little clunky... I changed the oil and filter a few months back, no change!

 

I can't put my finger on exactly what's different, but the change into and out of 2nd just doesn't seem quite as smooth.

[HarleQuinn]

2 hours ago, chrisund123 said:

2nd gear on my 6 speed is a little clunky... I changed the oil and filter a few months back, no change!

 

I can't put my finger on exactly what's different, but the change into and out of 2nd just doesn't seem quite as smooth.

 

Exactly the same as mine!

[Cryonut]

18 hours ago, andybarsblade said:

7 speed

 

Sorry, didn't realise 7 speeds were fitted to the larger engines, 

 

[AVHreplica]

On 2/6/2018 at 08:51, Cryonut said:

 

Sorry, didn't realise 7 speeds were fitted to the larger engines, 

 

Not always.

Friend's 2011 1,2TSI Fabia has the 7 speed DSG.