What about Skoda Spartak! 

 

They've used that before in the dim & distant past. 

Don't forget,

1. Big wheels on cars make them look better! 

2. Big wheels on cars without any gearing enable them to go faster! (that's why Express Passenger Steam Locos that also had no gears, had 6'-8" Driving Wheels whereas Freight Locos only had 5' or 5'-6" wheels. 

 

On non geared drive systems as in Steam Locos or Electric Vehicles, Big Wheels favour High Top Speed, Smaller Wheels favour Greater Traction.

 

3. Big Wheels also mean less Tyre Wear. 

 

So, it's Big Wheels for me. 

 

 

 

Edited 19 May, 20197 yr by Ronn

@Ronn

 

1. IYO
2. No they don't. They will permit a higher speed for given engine revs, but at the expense of lower tractive effort at low speeds.
3. Big wheels also mean more expensive tyres make for make, even if if I accept your argument about wear rates.
4. Big wheels mean lower profile tyres for a given tread width, and that actually does mean a harder ride for given spring and damper rates.

Manufacturers of tyres are developing tyres to be oem fitment on ev, s. New markets new buyers for round Black things with a hole to fit a wheel in. Then suspension developed to go with the vehicles and buyers expectations. 

Edited 22 May, 20197 yr by Skoffski

Press launch in Btatislava this afternoon   (can be watched live - see link)

 

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/models/live-skoda-enters-the-electric-era/

 

 

Now launched, Called CITIGOe iV

 

https://www.skoda-auto.com/news/news-detail/citigo-e-iv

 

The front wheel drive CITIGOe iV is ŠKODA’s first all electric production vehicle

Electric motor with a power output of 61 kW.

The maximum torque of 210 Nm

The short burst from 60 to 100 km/h therefore takes 7.6 seconds,

CITIGOe iV can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 12.5 seconds.

Top speed is 130 km/h.

 

Paint finishes, four standard colours – Candy White, Tornado Red, Sunflower Yellow and, exclusively for the ŠKODA CITIGO, Kiwi Green.

The metallic colours Deep Pearlescent Black, Crystal Blue and Tungsten Silver.

 

Edited 23 May, 20197 yr by SurreyJohn
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As long as they honour the price stated in Euros in the UK, I'm pretty much sold. I'll want to test drive one to see if the battery weight has ruined the handling before signing up though. If it all works out then this car meets all my requirements for a second car so this could be my first foray into EVs.

Think other manufactures will have some very tasty city car EVs on the market in the next 2 yrs. 

 

Think they'll be a lot more adventurous looking than the VW offering with the EV Citigo. 

Looks rather ordinary, but as the majority of existing Citigo buyers are 60+ it will no doubt suit their staid persona. 

It should sell well with the Humbug sucking car buyers.

Edited 23 May, 20197 yr by Ronn

@Ronn

Do you just make up stuff like "as the majority of existing Citigo buyers are 60+" ? 

Or did you get this info from some official sort of source?

Your point 2 is exactly as I said. 

 

Your point 3 is correct, of course bigger dia tyres cost more than smaller ones. 

 

Your point 4, springs & dampers are all part of the ride profile along with tyres so, large wheels would have appropriate springs & dampers to provide any desired ride quality required. 

From another post on here, looks like SEAT will be offering the same car very soon. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/seat-mii-reinvented-162-mile-electric-city-car-2020

 

So the choice will be which manufacturer offers the price / spec I most want.

 

Talking about this with SWMBO, I think the Karoq might end up as our second car!

Yes I understand your preference with the Karoq. 

 

But, surely your comparing Apples with Pears! 

 

The Karoq is in a different league to the Citigo which is of relatively cheap City Car. 

 

It's whatever your Purse will stretch to! 

 

Most people just want a 2nd Car as a 'run around' and for the Mrs to go shopping, go to the Hairdressers to beautify themselves or the school run. 

 

However, I use my wife's Citigo (our 2nd car) to go on Holiday in the UK down to the 'beautiful south' and also take us to the Airport for our Foreign excursions. 

The Citigo performs the task very adequately. 

Most people buy Cars far, far bigger than their requirements, it a sort of status symbol, society uses it as an indication as to the size of your reproductive Organ, if your Male. 

Women use Big cars as an indication of their ability to do 'anything that a Man can do'. 

 

Remember a perfectly adequate 'Family Car' in the 1950's was an Austin A30, and just look how titchy they are. 

We used to have 12" console TVs in our lounge, now people insist on 56" or 60" TVs. 

I rest my case! 

Rest your eyes & your old bones,

no point using a lounge chair to be comfy like most people might chose, a canvas covered deck chair will do the job just fine.

21 minutes ago, Ronn said:

Most people buy Cars far, far bigger than their requirements,

Can your CitiGo carry an assembled 5 foot bookcase plus a load of other shopping and still have room for a passenger? A CitiGo just would not be adequate for the sort of cargo I come back from holidays with.

My point was, she is so excited at the prospect of an electric car, she will probably use it more than the Karoq. The Karoq is our primary car and the current ICE Citigo is our second car, but this may be reversed by the excited Mrs. Luckypants.

Thank you for correcting me on my inference. 

 

However I do hope you found 'my ramblings' at least entertaining to you if nothing else. 😁

1 minute ago, Ronn said:

Thank you for correcting me on my inference. 

 

However I do hope you found 'my ramblings' at least entertaining to you if nothing else. 😁

Ramble On by Led Zep good tune.

I have my assembled 5 foot bookcases delivered to my house. 😂

I don't very often bring an extra Assembled 5 foot bookcase back from holiday nor would I even contemplate doing so. 

What I would contemplate doing if I so desired however, is buying a screwdriver, (they sell them in all DIY shops throughout the UK) and disassembling the bookcase BEFORE attempting to bring it back home. 

Always a good idea. 

 

Remember, the invention of Flat Pack furniture is no accident! 

It makes it easier to transport. 

 

Any bookcase that cannot be 'broken down' must be extremely old and is known in the Trade as 'Brown Furniture' or maybe Antique Furniture, in which case I would NEVER contemplate bring home in anything but a specialised vehicle due to danger of damage to the furniture or worse still, damage to the cars occupants. 

Read your insurance policy, you're probably NOT covered in the event of such a calamity anyway!! 

 

I certainly don't go on Holiday to return with an assembled 5 foot bookcase whether it be purchased or given to me, nor do I take my assembled 5 foot bookcase on holiday with me only to return with it. 

I do like reading when on holiday but I can control my reading excesses until I return home. 

 

I do hope this is of assistance to you. 

2 minutes ago, Ronn said:

I have my assembled 5 foot bookcases delivered to my house. 😂

I don't very often bring an extra Assembled 5 foot bookcase back from holiday nor would I even contemplate doing so. 

What I would contemplate doing if I so desired however, is buying a screwdriver, (they sell them in all DIY shops throughout the UK) and disassembling the bookcase BEFORE attempting to bring it back home. 

Always a good idea. 

 

Remember, the invention of Flat Pack furniture is no accident! 

It makes it easier to transport. 

 

Any bookcase that cannot be 'broken down' must be extremely old and is known in the Trade as 'Brown Furniture' or maybe Antique Furniture, in which case I would NEVER contemplate bring home in anything but a specialised vehicle due to danger of damage to the furniture or worse still, damage to the cars occupants. 

Read your insurance policy, you're probably NOT covered in the event of such a calamity anyway!! 

 

I certainly don't go on Holiday to return with an assembled 5 foot bookcase whether it be purchased or given to me, nor do I take my assembled 5 foot bookcase on holiday with me only to return with it. 

I do like reading when on holiday but I can control my reading excesses until I return home. 

 

I do hope this is of assistance to you. 

Ikea will deliver to your house for a small fee, less hassle and no insurance issues. Hope this helps with your bookcase predicament.

How on earth does that ever fly? 

Being made of Lead and all! 

 

I prefer to go by Jefferson Airplane their Club Class is fantastic. 

17 hours ago, Ronn said:

I have my assembled 5 foot bookcases delivered to my house

From which I conclude that you have never been given an assembled bookcase, and can not accept that one size does not fit all.

I would have a Mii Electric rather than a e-Citigo just because of the front grill / normal look.

Even if the range was a few miles less, if it really is.

 

 

Agreed. Also, for me the standard specs given so far for the Mii are closer to what I want than the Citigo-e is.

Talking about the Citigo-e which is on the near horizon, I think it would be very foolish to dive in and buy one in its 1st year of production

Why? You may ask! 

Well, we have seen such an advancement in Battery 'extended range' development that I'm positive that Skoda or VW will be adding a further 80/100 miles to the Citigo-e range (presently forecast to be 186 miles I believe when it goes in sale), within 18 months or so.

Also other manufactures are clambering to get their offerings to the market place as quickly as possible. 

Their appears to be a race on who can deliver an EV with the greatest range. 

The runners have only just left the starting blocks. 

So my advice is, hang on, see what's going to be offered by the competition. 

Car purchasing is a Buyers Market at present, probably the strongest Buyers Market we've ever had. 

 

PS: just on other thing. My wife bought a new Citigo 2 years ago this month. 

I can't count the number of times that Skoda have phoned her in the last 3 months pestering her to trade hers in for a brand new one. 

That's on a car that's done 13,000 miles & is 2 years old. 

Unbelievable behaviour. 

 

My theory is: when Skoda bring out their new Electric Citigo late this year, they will quickly stop making the Petrol version. 

So, they're pressurising existing customers of Citigo's to change for a new one. 

This I believe is to get rid of all the existing stock they have of Petrol Citigo's by dumping on their unsuspecting 'loyal' customers before they become left on their hands. 

Very crafty I think. 

 

Edited 11 June, 20196 yr by Ronn