18 hours ago, Nuclear_Jules said:

They are paying I have no idea how much a new turbo costs. 

 

Will be be interesting to see if it fixes the oil consumption problem, if it doesn’t we are looking a a rebuild at their cost or the car is returned to them. Only had it 18 days

 

So am i right in saying that its at a Skoda garage, they are doing the work and are putting on a brand new VAG turbo?

 

On my old diesel I had a few issues and the non Skoda garage i brought it from said they would put a new turbo on it  When I collected it, the turbo was actually a 'locally' refurbed one.  In the end it was swapped out for a genuine VAG turbo.

Yep Skoda dealer they say they are putting a new turbo on I can only assume they would use a VAG one

I'd hope so - get them to confirm this and provide the relevant paperwork (for piece of mind)

Not got it back yet they changed the turbo and road tested it and got an o2 sensor error code. 

 

Sensor was covered in oil oil so they are fitting a new sensor and will repeat the road test before I pick it up.

Edited 5 September, 20187 yr by Nuclear_Jules
Typo

Original Parts required if a Main Dealership / Official Repairer is fitting, 

then you have the 2 year warranty on parts, and that should be labour.  Except with Manufacturers Warranty replacing, then the Manufacturers Warranty expires and so does replaced part under warranty warranty.

 

But if a Warranty Company pays even a penny, or the customer does then that 2 Years Warranty is active on the Original VW Group OEM part.

 

PS

They might need to replace the Catalytic Converter as well, but then they know that, it is their full time job after all.

It all adds up in cost but then they know that, it is their full time job....

Edited 5 September, 20187 yr by Offski

Thanks for the information.

It will be covered under the dealers warranty. I’m not being asked for money yet!

Well it’s back and we are keeping an eye on the oil consumption. New turbo was over £700 and another £300 in the o2 sensor and labour.

 

If it’s still using oil they will be changing the rings.

 

All paid for by Sparshatts so I can’t complain too much

Dealers Warranty is good, just check with them since it is Original VW Group parts there is now 2 years part and labour warranty on the Turbo, 

and you are in a good position because obviously if they have not resolved the fault an engine rebuild or new base engine is on the card.

9 hours ago, Offski said:

Dealers Warranty is good, just check with them since it is Original VW Group parts there is now 2 years part and labour warranty on the Turbo, 

and you are in a good position because obviously if they have not resolved the fault an engine rebuild or new base engine is on the card.

 

Or potentially they will offer to buy back / refund.  I think by law if a car is returned with the same fault 3 times you can demand a refund - This is where I stood with my last Oct Scout (Diesel) that kept going back with the same fault 

An 'offer' is not required, they are obliged to accept the vehicle back if they fail to have it fit for purpose.

A new Base Engine and the Turbo it already has should certainly see it Fit for Purpose and of merchantable Quality.

Obviously the Warranty Underwriter (Insurance Company) is 5 grand or so down, but then that is the Issue VW causes which is why Warranty Companies get VW to provide engines Free Gratis or near Free, it saves VW Owned Warranty Companies and others having to take legal actions against VW Group, who know they built lemons.

3 hours ago, Offski said:

An 'offer' is not required, they are obliged to accept the vehicle back if they fail to have it fit for purpose.

A new Base Engine and the Turbo it already has should certainly see it Fit for Purpose and of merchantable Quality.

Obviously the Warranty Underwriter (Insurance Company) is 5 grand or so down, but then that is the Issue VW causes which is why Warranty Companies get VW to provide engines Free Gratis or near Free, it saves VW Owned Warranty Companies and others having to take legal actions against VW Group, who know they built lemons.

 

When I say offer, i meant whether they would refund the sales price + extra as a form of compensation.

 

With regards the warranty, what happens if the warranty has a fixed amount per claim which is less than the cost of repair?

Warranty only covered £300 the other £700 has to be paid by the sales team who sold it.

 

If it needs rings etc the sales team will get the bill, I will not have to pay anything. 

The service manager said they had a few   Fabia vrs that they had this problem with.

Then they have to take the car back unfixed or pay the extra money.

As it is Skoda / VW does the deal on the QT when Engines Need Supplied.   Known Issues, known by all these Engineers with Dr before their names.

 

PS

I bet they have had experience of Mk2 Fabia vRS and engines.

of the 1,800 CAVE Engine Skoda in the UK more than 20% Failed and Replacement Engines failed, some cars have had 3 engines.

Then 2012 on the CTHE still failed.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/294051-cave-cthe-14tsi-just-reply-if-you-have-had-an-engine-replaced 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/358101-vrs-mk-ii-14-litre-twincharger-oil-consumption-issues/?page=17 

 

The Only people that seem to not know are  Skoda UK Call Handlers & Communications Managers,

it is just amazing how many are Deaf Dumb & Blind or just forgetful.

Edited 6 September, 20187 yr by Offski

When i had the issue with my 1.8tsi I did a lot of research on the oil issue (having not been aware before purchase) --- Having readup I then contacted the dealer i brought the car from with my findings and a few weeks worth of oil readings.  In my mind the only outcome was return the car, i didnt want it to be repaired and thankfully he took it back no issues.

 

The sad reality is that my old car, along with many more will be sat on pitches worldwide (or private sale) and un-suspecting people will buy them with the grief or challenge of getting them repaired/returning/being lumbered with them (private sale).

Skoda UK via Dealerships bought back Oil Users within Manufacturers Warranty and without carrying out repairs put some back in trade.

(Some were perfect, not from what Dealers did, because some just overfilled the oil,

but you changed the plugs for better than OEM, got rid of the long life oil and OEM filter, maybe even remapped to stage 1 so that the crap Engine Management was gone because VW had not developed Software Updates yet, and you ran Super Unleaded and you had a great car / engine, maybe picked up as a bargain.)

 

That is partly why so many Mk2 vRS Fabia are still having issues years on, replacement engines with the same issues as those they replaced,

no Service Campaigns or recalls and just Skoda / VW & Main Dealers taking the pith.

 

Not just those with Oil issues either.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/453993-rejected-diesel-back-up-for-sale-warning 

Edited 6 September, 20187 yr by Offski

Hi guys,

 

 

I came across this thread as I feel increasingly like the A3 1.8 tfsi 2011 I've just bought is exhibiting these issues. It's a bugger as it's so hard to spot until you use the car, and there's so many other things to look out for when you buy a used motor.

 

Some monkey has buggered the sump tray/seal assume during it's oil service the dealer had done before I collected it. They're two hours away so I'm sorting that myself, but they know about it. Anyway, it's been losing a bit of oil due to that, but it's a tiny drip. Keeping it topped up and that's getting done locally on Thursday. 

 

What I noticed is black oily spots over the rear of the car, and the exhaust looking quite black. This is making alarm bells ring, as almost everyone I spoke to about this engine said 'good engine'. It's something I'm not going to lose sleep over now, I'm done stressing over used cars. Is what it is, and it'll be back to the dealer with any major issue/cost in sight. 

 

My question is, could this be something else?? Or does the black oily residue usually point to the consumption, O ring issue?

 

Went to audi ealrier, they are doing an FOC oil consumption test starting on Monday, so I'll have some hard facts from then. Such a shame, kicking myself a bit, and its a really sweet driving motor.

 

Mostly Audi history, maintained within spec, 2011, 84k on the clock - what's the most you think you'd get from VAG with such a car presenting this issue? 

 

Thanks

PS, I bought the car from a dealer, not Audi. 

Sounds like worn piston rings which is a common issue on the 1.8tsi,  I wouldn't do any repairs and ask for refund as the place you bought it from doesn't seem to take any pride in checking over the car before releasing it to you.