This has been more noticeable after a short trip to Wales. The Karoq DSG does not change up, if speeding up downhill, forcing high engine  revs. Is this the DSG version of engine braking?

I have had torque converter auto boxes before that behaved in a similar way on certain gradients downhill, especially on a long steep hill. I find myself using the paddles to manually change up - I prefer to use the cars brakes than have the engine scream. Alternatively I slow down until the engine revs subside in a particular gear.

If you touch the brakes going downhill the box will change down to provide engine braking. If you don’t touch the brakes it will stay in a high gear.

When you are going downhill is it in Coasting Function?  As above tap the brake or tap the throttle, or changing down manually can be good.

I use the stick to not the paddles.

There are sensors that measure the angle of the dangle and speed and can affect the DSG and drop a gear or 3.

 

They are Automated Manuals not Autos.

In an auto i might be putting on and off the overdrive button, or dropping gears if not just a 4 speed, or needing to use the brakes.

Edited 9 September, 20187 yr by Offski

43 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

If you touch the brakes going downhill the box will change down to provide engine braking. If you don’t touch the brakes it will stay in a high gear.

Wasn't aware of this, thanks.

Depends on Engine, 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, then there are also diesels with a DSG.  Dry Clutch DQ200 or Wet Clutch DSG's just how they behave on exactly the same downhil slopes.

I know because i have driven most combinations on the same roads for about a decade now. So Euro 4/5 & Euro 6.

Driven only 2 pedal cars for over 4 decades.

My 1.6 TDI DSG was doing the same sort of thing yesterday following a 20+ mile 70mph dual carriage journey.  The gearbox seemed to get "stuck" in D4 with the engine roaring towards 3000+ rpm until I manually pushed it up to M5 and applied the brakes, from that point on the engine revs seems to be much lower and the car held better on the hill even once it return to D5.  So based on my experiences yesterday and the other posts I would say what you are experiencing is normal .... and remember replacing brake discs and pads because they are worn out is much, much cheaper than replacing a blown engine!

16 hours ago, OldKaroq said:

This has been more noticeable after a short trip to Wales. The Karoq DSG does not change up, if speeding up downhill, forcing high engine  revs. Is this the DSG version of engine braking?

Yes it engine braking but the car does change up. If in 'Normal' mode and you lift off the accelerator going down-hill the gearbox will change up if the car speeds up beyond a certain amount of revs. On my 2.0 diesel DSG this is about 4400-4800 rpm (not sure exact amount as I'm watching the road normally). I know this as I live in Wales and have a steep hill to be driven everyday. My car will change up by the bottom of the 1-in-10. If the car is in 'Eco' mode, the car coasts down the hill, speeding up quickly until you touch the brakes, whereupon the DSG engages and the revs rise to provide engine braking.

So all work in the same principal,  differences with 7 speed twin dry clutch DSG's and 6 or 7 speed wet clutch DSG's, 

different again with bigger or less big Petrol engines or Diesels.

The 1.6 TDI DSG I tested and mine 2.0 TDI DSG are both doing engine break. I found it to be a smart feature of the car.

This may be a little off the original. What do you make of a gearbox over heating message coming up, followed by a continue to drive message? It occurred when needing to reverse up hill for about 300 metres. I needed to do this on a very narrow lane, with no passing places near Vinlandia near to Hadrian's Wall. The auto hold was engaged when I had to stop occasionally to re-align where I was going. All sorts of warnings going off because of nearby walls. Overheating started after only about 100 metres. Was it due to auto hold having to be overcome each time I stopped. About 6 times all together.  

You report it to an Approved Repairer ASAP.

You let them read for fault codes or do a diagnosis, say it is normal if they say that, but be sure they log on the system.

 

'Then in the future as others do the same Skoda CZ / UK can not say, 'Never Heard of that' or Dealerships.

 

Only time will tell if another of the up to now DSG issues from 2009 til now.

The DQ200's a World Wide Recall excluding Europe, 2 Service Campaigns, current TPI.