Still don't get why stop-start is a "real PITA" when it's restarted by the time your foot hits the accelerator. Unless the diesels are slower or judder more when stopping and starting, which the petrol engines don't. Or it's the engine noise disappearing and reappearing that people don't like, which is also much more obvious in the diesels (and offputting if you're not used to it) -- the petrol engines are pretty much inaudible at idle so it's not at all obvious when it stops.

 

I do agree that stop-start is largely there to get better official fuel economy and CO2 results on the old discredited NEDC cycle, but if you're sitting stationary in traffic for more than a few seconds it does cut down polllution somewhat. Also in many other countries (e.g. Germany) you're supposed to turn your engine off when stationary for any length of time for exactly this reason, and nobody in the UK does this unless their car has stop-start...

 

In the end if you don't like it, turn it off. I don't mind it at all, and it makes a small contribution to reducing pollution in cities.

I'm the same.  No problems with light braking to combat Start/Stop issue.  It's just a  matter of reading the road ahead and not approaching junctions, stationary or slow moving traffic at a speed where you have to brake sharply.

I have breathing issues. I like stop/start for that reason alone. I can finesse the brake pedal so I can come to a stop without causing the engine to stop 95% of the time – it can be a bit fiddly. If I'm in a cutthroat London rush hour scenario, I know where the on/off switch is without having to look for it. I engaged it a couple times today on the way back from Croydon. Croydon traffic is nuts! And, this is speaking as a man who just got back from Naples! The difference is, in Croydon there is always one a-hole who is looking to take advantage of you. In Naples, they're all looking to take advantage.

On 01/10/2018 at 22:27, TheGingerOne said:

My main issue is with stop/start stopping before the car has actually stopped thus killing the power steering. It would be okay if it stopped the engine after the car had actually stopped. 

 

On 01/10/2018 at 23:13, Adrian55555 said:

Yeah mine did that esp when parking when going slow when manoeuvring. 

 

I thought that the MkIII Superb had electronic power steering, does it really stiffen up when the engine stops via stop/start?

Yes as car is off so power steering cuts out

On 06/10/2018 at 19:47, daveo138 said:

 

 

In my experience of stop/start in a manual, the engine only cuts out when you put the car in neutral and let the clutch out. With a DSG, it cuts out every time you (almost) come to a stop, which is a real PITA IMO 

Very much agree.  Had no issues with my last Superb which was a manual but a very different story with the DSG.

I’m actually surprised how many people like start/stop. Where I work we have a fleet of pool vans and no matter who is driving it’s pretty much a default action that everyone turns it off as soon as they’ve started the engine...or if they forget and it’s cuts in at the lights they angrily reach for the off button!  I mean no disrespect to anyone who loves it, it’s just interesting that I’ve never met anyone in real life who doesn’t turn it off (except for my sister who isn’t a confident driver and is happy to just make it to her destination in one piece rather than worry about pressing buttons).

On 08/10/2018 at 22:19, Adrian55555 said:

Yes as car is off so power steering cuts out

 

Strange, given the move to electric rather than conventional hydraulic power steering you'd think an electrical system would not be dependant on the engine running, i.e. the battery having sufficient charge would be enough.

Yep and if you wiggle steering wheel enough once car has stopped as well, the engine will start up again without touching pedals. 

I didn't know about using the steering wheel to start engine but tried it this weekend - cool. 

12 hours ago, Kamikazekid said:

I’m actually surprised how many people like start/stop. Where I work we have a fleet of pool vans and no matter who is driving it’s pretty much a default action that everyone turns it off as soon as they’ve started the engine...or if they forget and it’s cuts in at the lights they angrily reach for the off button!  I mean no disrespect to anyone who loves it, it’s just interesting that I’ve never met anyone in real life who doesn’t turn it off (except for my sister who isn’t a confident driver and is happy to just make it to her destination in one piece rather than worry about pressing buttons).

This is funny! My experience exactly - maybe the 'lovers' are just forum inhabitants and never get into the real world to meet people like us!

 

Everyone I've ever met has cursed it to hell & back!!!!

Maybe it does not matter if they meet others and discuss Stop / start, just that they say how many miles they drive a year. That will be in the real world not on a Rolling road / simulator.

So i do about 18,000 - 20,000 a year in different vehicles, all auto / dsg and while i sometimes put stop start off i then miss it in vehicles that does not have it.

I also miss Autohold as well when driving a car without it but when the snow comes i will curse the e-brake and no physical parking / hand brake.

Edited 11 October, 20187 yr by Offski

14 hours ago, Muff said:

I didn't know about using the steering wheel to start engine but tried it this weekend - cool. 

The only problem I find doing this is it takes a heck of a wrench to move the wheel. 

19 hours ago, Offski said:

I also miss Autohold as well when driving a car without it but when the snow comes i will curse the e-brake and no physical parking / hand brake.

 

i love the autohold so much, that whenever i drive my wife's mazda3 or a rental car, i forget they don't have autohold, and i release my foot from the brake after stopping, only to say "oh 5h1t" and jump on the brakes again!!

LOL

6 hours ago, JR RS said:

 

i love the autohold so much, that whenever i drive my wife's mazda3 or a rental car, i forget they don't have autohold, and i release my foot from the brake after stopping, only to say "oh 5h1t" and jump on the brakes again!!

LOL

 

Just the opposite here. I had my car serviced and was making a tight turn out of the car park. I took my foot off the brake and kept waiting for the car to move. Looked down and saw the autohold light on. Switched it off and everything was back to normal.

So a technician / fitter or car vacuumer / washer changed it from you handing the car in,  that hardly makes 'Autohold' the devils spawn.

Other people driving borrowed cars often do that. Switch on or off the radio, inhibit DRL's or put the lights off of 'Auto'.

Ha! I am hardly on the "devil's spawn" side of this argument. But, I do like things left where I put them. Just ask my wife. 

Barstewards never put the seat back where it was when dropped off. But then several people have enjoyed the car in an hour....

If they put it all the way back then anyone can climb in and adjust, but sometimes i think / know it is not a vertically challenged person that parks the car but they put the seat as far forward as they can to annoy.

(never because they are checking under the seat for loose change, the vacuumer could have got that.)

2 hours ago, Offski said:

If they put it all the way back then anyone can climb in and adjust ...

 

That reminds me, I had to use the seat setting button for the first time since last year's service. Worked, too.