I know this subject is a variable one with all the answers on dependencies such as lead foot etc etc, but just trying to get a ball park figure for economy on my forthcoming new Kodiaq. It’s a 190 dsg 4x4 7 seater.

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/45-Skoda/1575-Kodiaq.html?fueltype=1&gearing=2

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kodiaq-2016/20-tdi-190-dsg-4x4

Any comparison of a Euro 6 model might not actually be giving a good idea if a Euro 6d temp WLTP Approved TDI with SCR.

 

You would hope long term to be getting  at least 10 miles for every litre of diesel being used.

That will very much depend on the use though, car full or car mostly empty, length of trips being done and not too many less that 15-20 miles.

I have a 190tdi sportline. It’s only got 500 miles on it and is WLTP approved. So far it’s shoving 35mpg. Don’t think I’ve had any trips over 40mpg to be honest, I do tend to do a lot of stop start short motorway driving though. For comparison my previous grand C4 Picasso 1.6 blue hdi averaged 45mpg over 30k miles. I’m loving the Kodiaq though. First tip run this morning haha. 

Your mpg will improve with age/mileage of the car. I found that from 5k and then 10k ish there are improvement step in the mpg figures.

Ballpark economy depends on too many factors, particularly at this time of the year with it being so cold. Ours will show anywhere from something beginning with a 2 if it’s a short journey driven vigourously, to something beginning with a 5 if the weather’s a bit warmer and it’s driven gently at moderate speed. Aside from when it’s frosty, it’s unusual for ours to be showing below 40, and how much higher it gets depends on length of journey, how heavily loaded it is, how fast we drive, and how much we use the brakes.

^^^ Funnily i drive diesels in the colder north and lower temps might mean going a bit slower which uses less fuel, 

and as long as just cold and no sitting heating up and defrosting but just driving in cool fresh air i find TDI's give better fuel economy as long as the trip is over 20 miles and the engine / coolant and oil gets up to efficient temp.

If you have on Summer Tyres as cars come with from the factory then cold roads have less traction and that means less friction.  So swings and roundabouts.

(sliding at roundabouts, even with Haldex...)

From around Mid October when Winter Diesel is delivered to filling stations i get up to 730 miles from 63 litres of diesel where as in the warmer months i get around 600-650 miles.

& That is with Winter / Snow tyres used in those months.

Where we are, the temperature makes little difference to the speed we drive at so far - we’ve yet to have many frosty days. But at 5C, our Kodiaq is showing significantly worse MPG than it did when the ambient temperature was 15C. The coolant and oil takes much longer to get up to temperature, plus the electrical load is much higher with seat, steering and auxiliary cabin heaters running. 

I am North of Perth, do lots of miles over winter and quite often in night time and as long as the trips are longer then the fuel economy is better when cold.

Same roads, same headlights on, A/C on even if too cold to work, radio etc etc same as in Summer when wipers might be on. 

No extra electrical load other than heated mirror for 5 minutes and rear screen maybe.

 

But then if you do trips shorter than uses a couple of litres of fuel then a TDI does use more than when the ambient temp might be in double figures at the start of a trip.

 

PS

No seat heaters required, i have the skin from a sheep called 'Donk'.

Edited 22 December, 20187 yr by Skoffski

I see a dip in fuel economy come winter time, usually 2-3mpg.

38 mpg true brim to brim over 18,000 miles assorted driving.

 

I try to avoid very short journeys as it takes a while for the car to warm up and get up to 40+ mpg on a run.

 

I never use ECO mode any more, flipping between Drive and Sport as necessary on every journey.

2 hours ago, BoxerBoy said:

38 mpg true brim to brim over 18,000 miles assorted driving.

 

I try to avoid very short journeys as it takes a while for the car to warm up and get up to 40+ mpg on a run.

 

I never use ECO mode any more, flipping between Drive and Sport as necessary on every journey.

Spot on everyone. That's good & about what I was expecting. Hopefully a bit more on a decent run, but pretty much what I'm getting with my current bus now, so all good.

Just need to kick the stealer to confirm when the car is arriving...

15 hours ago, linni said:

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/45-Skoda/1575-Kodiaq.html?fueltype=1&gearing=2

SO 7.0 litres per 100km equates to about 40mpg, whereas 7.7 litres is about 36mpg if that helps.

I was very surprised today as the ambient temperature surprisingly was up to 13.5 DegC and the dash read 40 mpg after “only” 40 miles. Then 45 mpg after 45 miles.  The display reached a high of 46.5 mpg then dropped a bit when I upped the pace a bit.

 

Was a 120+ miles round trip on mostly A roads and some motorway.

 

The  bear sure likes the warmer weather.

 

It normally takes at least 50 miles to reach 40 mpg (dash) in cold weather.

I agree with all the comments above, it's the most difference I've ever noticed in a car between the winter and summer months. 17000mls now and I would say it averages about 38 in winter months and about 40-42 in the warmer weather ( can achieve 50 on the right road with coasting down hills and under 60mph etc.). I would also add that it's been the largest disparity between claimed average figures and actual figures achieved of any recent cars I've owned.

Previous cars

08 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.0DID (PD 140 VW Engine), Brill engine in Octavia, terrible in the Outlander.

61 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2DI-DC (177bhp Mitsi engine), Huge improvement on the above,

14 Ford Galaxy 2.0TDCI 163. Fine all-rounder.

All similar sizes and types of vehicle (Galaxy a bit heavier and higher roof height but no 4wd gubbins ).

Maybe as mentioned above partly down to the increasing electrical demands of newer cars. Saying that, the above cars were all high spec and had most of the same toys bar stop-start.

 

Very pleased with my bear as had a couple of new Octavia TDI Estates before the Outlanders and always been a Skoda fan.

Record February temp in Scotland yesterday. Reached 18.3C degrees somewhere. Slightly cooler today 16C forecast. Enjoy.