Hi all

I've just read a couple of threads describing the intermittent fault that I'm experiencing with my new vRS. Basically, like the others that have posted stuff, the car seems to hesitate, especially if you ease off the throttle approaching slower traffic, then re-apply the throttle to speed up again. It's just like it can't decide whether to add fuel or not momentarily, then jolts into life again. I've noticed on mine that it occurs mainly if I let the revs drop fairly quickly to between 1600 and 1900 revs and then trying to accelerate from there.

Somebody mentioned that a dealer told them that this problem may go away with increased mileage - mine's done 2k now and although it seems to be happening a little less frequently (might just've got used to it), it's still there.

Has anyone found a cure yet??? My dealer put mine on the computer which showed nothing wrong (just like in all the other postings). Surely if lots of us are experiencing the same/similar things, Skoda should be addressing the prob!!!:thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:

no wonder, the turbo wont even of spun up properly at those revvs

I think this 'jumping' at low revs is a characteristic of the car (and the electronic accelerator pedal?). It only happens if you drop down the rev range ad you will adapt to it - just takes mre of a loving touch.

Slowly slowly catchy monkey and all that jazz.

Used to catch me out - not a big problem but I have now got used to it...

HTH

Nothing wrong with it, too low in the revs so turbo can't boost = no response.

Drop it down a gear to get the revs up and it will disappear

Thanks for the comments lads

I thought it might be a slight turbo lag problem as I know the turbo will only just be spinning up but it doesn't just happen at the low revs I mentioned, only most commonly then. The Dealer has looked at it and reckons that there's no probs with the turbo. I'm well used to driving it now and I realise that you need to feed the fuel in smoothly, this doesn't cure it either!!

Another thought was that it might be 'cos of the new emissions regs that they've tweaked the system and this might be the cause??

Hi there suncat

Mine`s had same probs from start and mine`s been back twice still doing the stutter but nothing shown on computer at dealer.

I`ve spoken to some ex workmates and close friends who work in the motor industry and motorsport side of cars after 25 emails all roughly the same this is what I was told but i don`t know how accurate it is at the moment.

On AUDI PD130 and VW PD130 the stutter has been caused by the AIR FLOW METER going belly up, a work mates car is in tomorrow to have it replaced has his is stuttering on acceleration, his car is the passat PD 130

But on some SEAT cars the stutter is caused by either the EGR valve or the boost control valve starting to fail.

This is the best bit this was told to my work mate by VW dealer,

WHEN AIR FLOW METER OR THE EGR VALVE OR BOOST VALVE START TO GO THEY DO NOT SHOW UP AS FAULTS ON THE DIAGNOSTIC COMPUTER.

I passed this on to local dealer but not heard a reply if it worked on their demo as I`m getting a bit annoyed to put it in polite words I don`t know if this has been posted before i apologise if it has.

critch

Hi Critch

Nice to finally talk to someone that knows what I'm talking about (no offense meant to you other guys - I know you were trying to help).

Bit disconcerting about the EGR/Air Flow Meter potentially going t*ts up. Bl**dy Dealers always insist that you wait for something serious to develop (I've been to two now), so that's where I am.

Let me know if you have any joy getting yours fixed and I'll be in touch if I get mine sorted meanwhile

Take it easy maaaaan

Suncat

I've also experienced the stutter on my new vrs, so I'll be keeping up to date with this thread too

I have owned 05 and o6 cars back to back (another story) and the 05 car never did this in the year I owned it, but the 06 has done it several times in 450 miles so it is an 06 problem, could be Euro whatsit or something completely different but it only did it once this week, so it would be impossible to recreate if I took the dealers mechanic out in the car! But I think it is getting better.

The engine is noisier and sounds different to the old car which could be the lack of miles.

im sorry but if ther dealers dont see a fault code what can they do? if they dont know of any fix for it then what would you like them to do?

they are not miracle workers....just fellow humans.

give them a break. I'd say wait till it does break!! atleast you will know for sure.

if this is a big issue then they will sort it out if they are having lots of people noticing it

Jesus! give him a break! he just started this thread hoping for some helpful advice!!

I think the stuttering is all but gone on my car but if I find out anything I will let you know Suncat.

i've had a 53 plate, an 04 plate, and just got an 06 plate and I too have only noticed the rev stutter on the 06 plate - reckon i can live with it tho cos its not too bad

Wasn't having a go it him I didn't think?

It is definitely the case that the turbo needs to spin up and below 1500 rpm it just won't. Below about 1700-1800 rpm it doesn't do a lot.

The 06 model has to meet more stringent emission standards so it probably has more aggressive settings to reduce fuelling etc. IIRC it may also have a more restrictive filtering in the exhaust to trap soot particulates. Combined this may cause that effect to be worse in the 06 model I suppose.

If that's the case though there is nothing 'wrong' with the engine however, and I doubt a MAF failure will have happened this quickly - it's very unlikely at least -.

Might be worth tweaking the EGR settings in VAGCOM, perhaps it will help the situation

hi

how do i post a new thread ?

cant find out how to do it .... feel a bit of a di**head!

cheers

Richard

Hi All,

Also just gone from an 05 to 06 after rear end shunt on M1. I have also noticed this difference between the two engines. At the moment it is no more than slightly annoying. Never had much joy with dealers trying to sort out this type of problem. Had big problems with Audi and Skoda 20V petrol engines that the dealers never resolved. Disconnecting the MAF helped on the Skoda. Is there as simple test we can do ourselves to pinpoint the problems?

Bagheera.

Jesus! give him a break! he just started this thread hoping for some helpful advice!!

I think the stuttering is all but gone on my car but if I find out anything I will let you know Suncat.

like someone else stated i wasn't having a go. just giving it to him straight.

the thing is no one likes the truth these days.

Hi Guys

Thanks to everyone who's proffered advice/comment so far. In fact, I started the thread partly to see if there was a remedy to the fault that I could report to my two local Dealers' and partly to see if others of you were experiencing the same thing.

From your replies, it looks as if it could be a relatively common phenomenon on the 06 model. I hope that this means that it could be resolved soon. However, this will only happen if owners start reporting it to their Dealers. I'm quite happy to wait for a more major and easily identifiable fault to develop (even if I have just paid 12K of my hard-earned for the car) but I hope that it doesn't have to go that far. If it's fixable, I'd like it sorted, if not I'll have to live with it!

Shame really, 'cos other than the stutter (which I believe is a fault and not merely a quirk), it's a cracking little car.

Keep feeding the thread lads.

Suncat

hi everybody

bit late to post this got news this morning.

got text message of mark who took his passat pd130 in to dealer to sort out stutter they changed AIR FLOW METER and he reports that it seems to pull alot better than it was before the problem started weird thing is this is the second time its had the AFM changed in three years even the mechanic/technician said they do go quite often he said total £270 even though part is £70 on its own.

second reply got a strange text message from ex school friend who is a contractor where i work he has a seat leon he heard of my problem,

he had the same but between him and the mechanic/technician at his dealer they worked it out they changed the ELECTRONIC GAS RECICULATION VALVE and the BOOST CONTROL VALVE and this rectified the stutter on his.

it seems different cars have different problems the EGR VALVE was £65 from VAGPARTS and about £20 for BCV which he paid for himself.

hope this shows a bit of light on problems

critch

Hi everyone,

Raised this with the dealer this morning. He said he had noticed it with the one he was driving and said that it did go away. Can not remember if he said what the mileage was. He will talk to their senior technician now he knows it was not just his vRS. Mentioned this thread and site to him. He has logged the issue for my vRS and took my number to pass to the techie. Will post any updates. I am up to 1000 miles now and the problem was still happening this morning on the motorway!

Regards,

Bagheera.

Hi Bagheera

Thanks for the update . Mines still stuttering at 2K miles but it seems a little less than when I bought it. However, I could be getting used to it!!!

Dealer told me yesterday that they would not replace the EGR, Air Flow Meter, or Boost Valve under Warranty because no fault shows on the VAG-COM. However, reading through the links to SEAT's and VW's with PD 130 TDi engines and an identical problem, it won't!!:thumbdwn:

Dealer also said that it should get better as the engine loosens up - which he reckoned was around 10K. Not sure I want to wait around for that.:confused:

Suncat

hi there suncat

forsome strange reason the car hasn`t stuttered for about a week now,

the stutter seems to have gone away but my mileage is just only over 1k.

all i can think of is the weekend before we went to my mother in laws and did a 220 mile round trip which took mileage from 790 to over 1000.

but this was done at speeds between 80 and 90 thanks to cruise control but we noticed an alarming amount of crap that came out of the car on the way there and half way coming back when adjusting between 80 and 90 don`t know if it`s cleared something out but fingers crossed seems ok.

cheers

critch

(very happy owner now can use car to it`s potential)

you'll need to do this yourself or find someone willing to help (not your stealer).

Adjust the EGR (exhaust gas recirulation) valve on the car so it has next to no usage (cant be turned off without blocking it), mine is on the minimum setting which basically stops the EGR even functioning, it will stop the exhaust gases being re-used (it's only there to meet emission levels) and filling up you engine with lots of soot (think Jason commented on how the head gasket was covered with a layer of it, Yuck! :().

So it keeps your engine cleamer, made my tickover noticably smoother and the car does revv a little easier as it's not putting through spent exhaust gases twice.

A worthwhile mod if you ask me , and it may cure your problem. Just need to find someone with VAG-COM.

Cheers Critch and Hellfire

Took it up to @125mph for a bit yesterday, hope that blew some **** out of it!! Next up, I'll see about lowering the EGR settings - was thinking about buying a VAG-COM myself but they're quite expensive!!

Take it easy guys

Suncat

I talked to the dealer today and he said there had been no bulletins from Skoda about a stuttering or misfiring problem which was no surprise, but he did say give it some stick and that will cure it! So no help there. Mine only does it after it is warmed up and even then intermittently, but it is annoying.

He also wanted £120 + vat labour to fit a new Dab aerial which i would supply to the roof of my vRS (Mary mother of Jesus) that’s expensive.

I have the EGR turned down to minimum, and give it a good blast quite often, I believe these things help keep the engine tip-top and clean.

However, I think the stuttering problem is unique to the EuroIV compliant 2006 model cars. The engine has a particulate filter added, and I imagine the EGR is turned up a bit. I don't think the stuttering is a fault, just a characteristic of the more environmentally friendly setup.

Now, get a turbo back exhaust, turn down your EGR and finish of with a remap of your choice. I'm confident this will solve the problem.