Okay, so the salesman in his speil tells me how the wonderful 1.5tsi Evo engine will, when travelling at a certain cruising speed, switch out two of the cylinders without you noticing and save oceans of fuel while you remain blissfully unaware except for a notice appearing on your screen. 

Thats great...but is it supposed to do that in 3rd gear (DSG) at 20mph in traffic down town? It did this twice this morning.

Yes it is supposed to do it.

No load on the engine, light throttle, 2 cylinders will do. keep the car moving along just fine and the cylinders will kick in as required or requested with the accelerator.

 

 

 

Edited 6 February, 20197 yr by Skoffski

Thanks for that Skoffski, nice bit of video and good to see it is saving me fuel. At my present average consumption of 29.9 mpg in mixed driving its obviously doing a grand job.

Maybe if the trips are over 10 miles from cold starts the fuel economy will improve.

If they are over 10 miles and you are at NSL's then that fuel economy is ridiculous, but the VW have the Software & Engine Management for the WLTP numbers under testing maybe and not for actual buying public getting good economy.

Not over concerned just yet to be honest. Got a couple of decent trips coming up shortly so hopefully will see better figures.

 

8 hours ago, Breezy said:

Not over concerned just yet to be honest. Got a couple of decent trips coming up shortly so hopefully will see better figures.

 

If you can't get 50mpg on a motorway you must be speeding like everyone else I see everyday on my commute. Averaged 41.9mpg today in my 336bhp Octavia without exceeding a single speed limit, just requires some discipline with the right foot.

I have to say the fuel consumption is worse on my 1.5 DSG than expected. Today I drove 30 miles each way in light traffic on mixed roads including built up areas and motorway. Eco mode, no harsh acceleration, always within speed limits but where safe and appropriate up to that limit....just under 40mpg....each way. 

 

My car doesn’t go into 7th until you are over 50mph.....OK...I would hope the ecu is doing it’s stuff but my wife’s Polo 1.2 DSG is into 7th at 40mph. 

 

If you drive over 60 mph an automatic valve opens and distributes fuel to some unknown recipients. 

2 minutes ago, 33q said:

I have to say the fuel consumption is worse on my 1.5 DSG than expected. Today I drove 30 miles each way in light traffic on mixed roads including built up areas and motorway. Eco mode, no harsh acceleration, always within speed limits but where safe and appropriate up to that limit....just under 40mpg....each way. 

 

My car doesn’t go into 7th until you are over 50mph.....OK...I would hope the ecu is doing it’s stuff but my wife’s Polo 1.2 DSG is into 7th at 40mph. 

 

If you drive over 60 mph an automatic valve opens and distributes fuel to some unknown recipients. 

When I drive the wife's 6 speed manual Karoq SEL (when it requires fuel) you can pop it into 6th gear at 45mph which has benefits of lowering revs and therefore fuel consumption (1,500rpm).

12 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

When I drive the wife's 6 speed manual Karoq SEL (when it requires fuel) you can pop it into 6th gear at 45mph which has benefits of lowering revs and therefore fuel consumption (1,500rpm).

 

But why compare apples and pears? DSG v manual. 

 

if you manually change up on mine at 45 mph etc it drops back to 6th after 30 seconds or so. 

 

It may act differently if I shifted over to manual... I don’t know... If I wanted a manual I would have bought one.

 

...and I’m not convinced simply lowering revs improves consumption.... but I find it difficult to understand how a 90 bhp engine can  run an albeit slightly lighter car at 40mph in 7th whilst a 150 bhp car needs to be over 50 mph to run 7th. 

 

The cynic in me me tells me it’s WLTP.........but what do I know!

12 minutes ago, 33q said:

...and I’m not convinced simply lowering revs improves consumption.... but I find it difficult to understand how a 90 bhp engine can  run an albeit slightly lighter car at 40mph in 7th whilst a 150 bhp car needs to be over 50 mph to run 7th.

 

I imagine the the 150 car has a rather higher top speed so top gear needs to be longer/ higher ratio to hit higher speed at presumably about the same revs in both cars.

And hence at low revs it's a higher speed before the engine is comfortable to hold the gear.

8 hours ago, DavidY said:

 

I imagine the the 150 car has a rather higher top speed so top gear needs to be longer/ higher ratio to hit higher speed at presumably about the same revs in both cars.

And hence at low revs it's a higher speed before the engine is comfortable to hold the gear.

 

The  top gear ratios on the Polo are only slightly lower than the Karoq. I agree with your thinking but the practice is somewhat different. 

 

Any pre WLTP DSG Karoq owners able to share their thoughts?

10 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

If you can't get 50mpg on a motorway you must be speeding like everyone else I see everyday on my commute. Averaged 41.9mpg today in my 336bhp Octavia without exceeding a single speed limit, just requires some discipline with the right foot.

 

Hi, with my DSG I have only once got 50mpg in 7,000 miles and numerous motorway trips.

That occasion I averaged 50mph due to speed restrictions.

All other occasions I have tried I have kept to 70mph and altered my driving style where I used to keep car at around 75mph. Now I set cruise to 70 with occasional burst to 80 to clear gaggles of cars or to allow nutters up my arse past as slowly overtaking at 70 mph seems to annoy some...

 

 

If anything since getting the Karoq I have become a more sedate driver which is actually not a bad thing.

But still no where near 50mpg and not speeding.

I average around 40 mpg combined and I guess it would be higher if I was doing more motorway trips every day...

Just my 2p and YMMV...

 

 

Laughing to myself 

 

SUV owners obsessing with fuel economy.

 

There is a price to pay for sitting up high.

38 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

Laughing to myself 

 

SUV owners obsessing with fuel economy.

 

There is a price to pay for sitting up high.

SUV? Its a Karoq, even Skoda dont go as far as claiming it to be an SUV. 

It has increased ground clearance, the option for 4x4 and off-road pretentions, all leaning towards being an SUV...

 

 

 

 

Call it what you want, but fuel economy is never going to be it's competitive edge.

 

Oh, and Skoda do indeed think it's an SUV...

 

 

Edited 7 February, 20197 yr by silver1011

16 minutes ago, Breezy said:

SUV? Its a Karoq, even Skoda dont go as far as claiming it to be an SUV. 

 

I do find myself agreeing with silver1011. The Karoq is more of a small SUV, as opposed to a more low riding saloon or estate car. Like many SUV's it has the aerodynamics of a small wardrobe. All this plays a part in fuel economy.

7 minutes ago, OldKaroq said:

 

I do find myself agreeing with silver1011. The Karoq is more of a small SUV, as opposed to a more low riding saloon or estate car. Like many SUV's it has the aerodynamics of a small wardrobe. All this plays a part in fuel economy.

Of course it does, and trying to achieve a manufacturers stated consumption is completely pointless as we all know, but if the Manufacturer states consumption figures of 50mpg then one is entitled to feel a little miffed when actual fuel consumption is sitting around 30mpg I think.

 

Having said all of that I usually find that any interest or concerns re fuel consumption go out of the window after a few refuels when I get bored with actually checking it.

Edited 7 February, 20197 yr by Breezy

5 minutes ago, Breezy said:

Of course it does, and trying to achieve a manufacturers stated consumption is completely pointless as we all know, but if the Manufacturer states consumption figures of 50mpg then one is entitled to feel a little miffed when actual fuel consumption is sitting around 30mpg I think.

 

Having said all of that I usually find that any interest or concerns re fuel consumption go out of the window after a few refuels when I get bored with actually checking it.

True. I have managed the lofty figure of 50 and 51mpg just twice, but this is from the OBD of course. The 1.5 TSI is CAPABLE of 50mpg. (Downhill. With a tail wind. ) That would be a fairer statement.

 

As I do not do a huge mileage, maybe 8-9 k a year, for me depreciation is much more expensive than the fuel. 

 

Yes, I know what you mean re bored of checking. I don't even wash it as much as I used to! Looks great when washed, as I know your black one will.

I think its (relatively) common knowledge now that the quoted fuel economy figures provided by the manufacturers are for comparitive purposes only, they aren't realistically acheivable in real life.

 

The vehicles are tested in predetermined laborary test conditions, so that Skoda's figures can easily be compared to say, Vauxhall's figures, as in theory they've been tested in the same conditions.

 

Get the car out on the real roads with different weather, temperature, tyres, drivers, loads, passengers, road surfaces, gradients, fuel quality, engine wear, DPF regenerations, electrical loads etc. etc. and you've little chance of consistently achieving the claimed fuel economy.

 

The biggest influence on fuel economy however is the big lump of flesh sat in the drivers seat pushing the pedals.

I think there is a lot of misleading hype about petrol engines and economy. There are some fantastic little petrol engines out there pulling big cars about and doing very good MPG in comparison to big NA lumps, but some people seem to be expecting diesel mpg and its never going to happen.

Edited 7 February, 20197 yr by SuperbTWM

Best in summer in our 1.5TSi petrol manual Karoq 62mpg and best in winter 55.8mpg. 3 Factors to achieve this good commute, mainly motorway and relatively flat (can't always guarantee a tailwind but it helps), the important nut behind the wheel because anticipating the traffic ahead/behind you means braking as little as possible (IAM training could save everyone 12% annual fuel bill) and plenty of 2 cylinder deactivation, so no stomping on the gas and brake pedals so plenty of lifting/coasting approaching roundabouts (I have 14 roundabouts on my commute).

62mpg on a 1.5 tsi?  That is from the readout on the dash I take it. Its rather unusual to beat the manufacturer’s quoted fuel figure by over 20% no matter how you drive. Im not AIM trained but Advanced Police Driver trained and have many years of experience.

If I get a real consumption of 62mpg I will stand on top of my car.naked , singing the National Anthem in Russian.

 

This guy got 62mpg...

 

 

...just before he hit the water.

30 minutes ago, Breezy said:

62mpg on a 1.5 tsi?  That is from the readout on the dash I take it. Its rather unusual to beat the manufacturer’s quoted fuel figure by over 20% no matter how you drive. Im not AIM trained but Advanced Police Driver trained and have many years of experience.

If I get a real consumption of 62mpg I will stand on top of my car.naked , singing the National Anthem in Russian.

 

Sorry lied it was 63.2MPG.

37 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Sorry lied it was 63.2MPG.

 

Just signed up for Russian Lessons.