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My facelift 2014 Yeti does not display the speed the cruise control is set to on the MFD. this is frustrating as it is difficult to know what Speed is locked in. It would also be helpful when adjusting the speed up/down as it is inconsistent with how much it changes with each press. 

 My Outlook build date 12/13.  Is there any way of activating this feature with a scan tool. 2.0 diesel. 

16 minutes ago, Meyannos said:

My facelift 2014 Yeti does not display the speed the cruise control is set to on the MFD. this is frustrating as it is difficult to know what Speed is locked in.

 

I would refer you to this recent thread: 

 

 

IMO that feature is useful for adaptive cruise control, because it tells you what speed the car will try to accelerate up to when/if the vehicle in front turns off or pulls over ie what the car will aim to do automatically without you doing anything.  But the Yeti CC isn't adaptive: that means that you are completely in control of the car's the speed even when the CC is engaged.  If traffic in front is moving slower, it's up to you to slow down - and that will disengage the CC.  If you want to re-engage the CC but you can't remember what it was set to before it was disengaged all you have to do is to press the SET button when you're doing the speed you want, rather than pressing the RES button.

 

It is different to using an adaptive CC.

 

I would also refer you to this post in the thread referenced above.

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Hi ejstubbs. Thank you for the link, it was very informative. One of my issues is that the diesel takes a while to respond to a clik on the rocker so I often not sure if it has registered at all (which sometimes happens) so having the CC readout would be very helpful. If I had purchased the updated model six months later I would have had this feature (even on non adaptive CCmodels). Being able to set the speed and see what you have set seems like a standard feature of every other car I have owned with CC. I have access to a VAG scan tool. is it possible to turn this feature on with it. If so where would I look. 

It can definitely be done with VCDS as I enabled the feature on my Superb. If you google it or search the forum you should find a guide somewhere. I will have a quick look and post it if I can find it.

 

Display Cruise Control Speed:

Display the speed set for the cruise control in the bottom left corner of the MFD


This mod will show the actual speed, not the speed shown by the speedo (accurate within 1 km/h). The speed is visible when the cruise control is switched on and the car is moving, otherwise the total driven distance is shown. If the figures are small it means that the speed is set but the cruise control is not active, if the figures are big (as in the image above) the cruise control is active.

Instruments - 17
Adaptation - 10
Control Display  select "Active" 

Edited by SuperbTWM

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Thank you SupurbTWM, I will give this a go. 

 

I have always wondered if the distance travelled is calculated in the same way as the speed you are travelling at.  If it is, wouldn’t it mean the speedo reading for distance is high just like the speed reading. My speedo registers 116 when I am doing 110kph. So roughly 5%. Could I presume that I actually have travelled roughly 5% less distance than shown on the dial. 

9 hours ago, Meyannos said:

If I had purchased the updated model six months later I would have had this feature (even on non adaptive CCmodels).

 

Are  you sure?  It's not on my 2017 SE 150 4x4.

7 hours ago, Meyannos said:

My speedo registers 116 when I am doing 110kph. So roughly 5%. Could I presume that I actually have travelled roughly 5% less distance than shown on the dial.  

 

The speedo reads 5 - 10% high for legal reasons, the odometer is usually very accurate.

7 hours ago, Meyannos said:

I have always wondered if the distance travelled is calculated in the same way as the speed you are travelling at.  If it is, wouldn’t it mean the speedo reading for distance is high just like the speed reading. My speedo registers 116 when I am doing 110kph. So roughly 5%. Could I presume that I actually have travelled roughly 5% less distance than shown on the dial. 

 

I'm not sure about the odometer, but I'm 99% certain that it is the case for the fuel consumption display on the MFD, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it were the same for the odometer.

 

When I used to swap between summer tyres (225 50 R17) and winter tyres (205 55 R16) which were about 4% smaller diameter, the average MPG shown by the Maxidot (which is always about 8% optimistic anyway) would magically jump by about 4%.  Smaller wheels = more revolutions for the same actual distance covered, which also translates to more RPM in the same gear.  If the car is basing its calculations on an assumed wheel size then it thinks that the distance covered is 4% more => improved MPG for the  same amount of fuel used.

 

I've never bothered trying to calibrate the odometer against another instrument (eg a GPS sampling at a high rate) to see how accurate it is, but I've always assumed that it is based on the same principle as the speedo ie counting revolutions of something in the drive train.  As Urrell says, the speedo is deliberately set to read high in order to confirm with C&U regs.  There's no such requirement for the odometer - in fact if anything it should be required to be as accurate as reasonably possible (though I don't know whether that is actually the case).

 

My expectation would be that the CC target speed is derived from the same data source as the speedo, and therefore no more accurate.  I think the wording of that bit of SuperbTWM's post is a little misleading: I think it's referring to the precision of the display, not its accuracy (if that sounds confusing, see here).

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3 hours ago, ejstubbs said:

My expectation would be that the CC target speed is derived from the same data source as the speedo, and therefore no more accurate.  I think the wording of that bit of SuperbTWM's post is a little misleading: I think it's referring to the precision of the display, not its accuracy (if that sounds confusing, see here).

 

They aren't my exact words, it was just a copy and paste and I agree about the accuracy.

 

If the cruise display gave you real world speed and the speedo gave you another 5mph can you imagine the confusion and complaints that would happen. I know mine was approx 1mph lower on the digital cruise display than analogue but it might not of been intentional.

 

With regards to the odometer, it doesn't matter if its 5% out or not IMO. Its used for gauging servicing and gives you a very very very rough idea on general wear of the car and can sometimes determine value. I mean we all know you can go and look at a car with 30K on it and its absolutely ruined and then go look at one that has 60K on it that has been looked after and its mint.

 

 

 

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, SuperbTWM said:

 

 

 

With regards to the odometer, it doesn't matter if its 5% out or not 

 

 

It seems that legally it does. There have been court cases over it - eg:

 

https://www.wral.com/5onyourside/story/1233533/

 

6 minutes ago, muddyjim said:

It seems that legally it does. There have been court cases over it - eg:

 

https://www.wral.com/5onyourside/story/1233533/

 

 

That is a link to American legislation, not British or EU, therefore of no relevance here.

39 minutes ago, Llanigraham said:

 

That is a link to American legislation, not British or EU, therefore of no relevance here.

 

Nothing to do with legislation, it was a class-action suit taken against Honda for deliberately making the odometer read too high, causing more frequent servicing and shortening lease contracts.

 

There is (as far as I know) currently no legal requirement for the accuracy of odometers anywhere in the world.

 

However it is obviously being thought about; E.G.

 

Quote

The total mileage displayed by the odometer shall not vary from the actual mileage covered by more than ± 4 per cent.

 

https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/doc/2015/wp29grsg/ECE-TRANS-WP29-GRSG-2015-16e.pdf

 

I found that the odometer on mine was within 0.1m of agreeing with my Tomtom route calculation on a 100m trip, so very accurate.

8 hours ago, SuperbTWM said:

They aren't my exact words, it was just a copy and paste

 

Apologies, I pretty much guessed that and it wasn't my intention to suggest otherwise.

 

8 hours ago, SuperbTWM said:

If the cruise display gave you real world speed and the speedo gave you another 5mph can you imagine the confusion and complaints that would happen.

 

Indeed.

I'd say the cruise control set speed is handier to have than the total number of miles the vehicle has travelled since it was built. At least it is for me. Activated this on mine tonight.

As far as i am aware. CC speed display can't be done on the yeti diesel for some reason?!

 You can enable it but, it won't display? It works on petrol versions.

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It is standard on the update model that came out later in 2014. 

30 minutes ago, scoobz said:

As far as i am aware. CC speed display can't be done on the yeti diesel for some reason?!

 You can enable it but, it won't display? It works on petrol versions.

Works on mine.

 

:biggrin:

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Hi rustynuts you have a first release 2014 diesel that you have been able to get the cruise speed to display on you dash? How did you do it. 

Mine is a 65 plate. 150bhp engine.

27 minutes ago, Meyannos said:

It is standard on the update model that came out later in 2014. 

 

Not in the UK, it isn't!

It will depend on the ECU software if it will display in the cluster

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