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Inevitably used prices of Yeti’s will drop as newer crossover competitors come on to the market. The vast majority of buyers prefer the corporate looks of the run of the mill crossovers - it is why the Yeti was not a huge sales success apart from niche buyers. More thoughtful buyers appreciated the Yeti’s attributes of compact external size combines with spacious cabin and a light interior with big windows all round, plus it was available in 4 WD for those who needed that factor. Most buyers really don’t need 4 WD as the vehicle is unlikely to face more than a damp field.

The market is now saturated with smallish crossovers with 3 from the VW family - Arona, Kamiq and T Cross - plus offerings from Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citreon, Suzuki, etc. etc. They are now almost 'white goods’ and will likely be bought depending on the lowest PCP rates and latest fashion on the school run!

 Perhaps the Yeti was the last character crossover and will be cherished by those of us who like something different, just don’t imagine there are enough of us to support used car prices.

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Asking prices are going down.

Easy enough to see what older than 2016's are at and ones that are sitting and not selling at the price being asked.

The 2016 Yeti out on Lease and with Motability will be getting handed back in the next months and there will be more in dealerships on offer.

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8 hours ago, Expatman said:

Inevitably used prices of Yeti’s will drop as newer crossover competitors come on to the market. The vast majority of buyers prefer the corporate looks of the run of the mill crossovers - it is why the Yeti was not a huge sales success apart from niche buyers. More thoughtful buyers appreciated the Yeti’s attributes of compact external size combines with spacious cabin and a light interior with big windows all round, plus it was available in 4 WD for those who needed that factor. Most buyers really don’t need 4 WD as the vehicle is unlikely to face more than a damp field.

The market is now saturated with smallish crossovers with 3 from the VW family - Arona, Kamiq and T Cross - plus offerings from Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citreon, Suzuki, etc. etc. They are now almost 'white goods’ and will likely be bought depending on the lowest PCP rates and latest fashion on the school run!

 Perhaps the Yeti was the last character crossover and will be cherished by those of us who like something different, just don’t imagine there are enough of us to support used car prices.

 

Indeed. Most crossovers look and there are plenty of them. I can't even count the number of SUVs and crossovers that have debuted since we bought our X3 in 2016. An impotent consideration for those pondering about resale value is that many people as are happy to downsize as smaller SUVs and crossovers are sometime even massive improvements on the preceeding crossover that's a class above. 

 

To be really honest, the Kamiq looks more like a Scala all-road or scout than a crossover. Watch videos of people standing next to it in Geneva. It's not that tall. 

 

The Kamiq's biggest threat will be the T-Roc. The VW is a touch more clever with its folding front passanger seat and looks less like an estate. I got a great deal on my Fabia but wouldn't buy one today as the finance offers compared with a VW Polo are ever closer.

 

The T-Roc interior might be a bit Marmite.  Tarts handbag comes to mind.

 

 

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I was really only thinking off the higher powered 4x4 ones which this new car cant replace

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On 09/03/2019 at 08:39, Skoffski said:

The T-Roc interior might be a bit Marmite.  Tarts handbag comes to mind.

 

 

T-Roc is the Golf “SUV” the new T-Cross is based on the Polo and it’s size is similar to the Yeti although a bit shorter. The Kamiq is based on the same “chassis” but is a bit longer than the Yeti giving it a bit more internal space than the T-Cross. Hopefully there will be head-to-head reviews in the Motoring magazines - Arona, T-Cross and Kamiq for starters then adding in 2008 etc.

Marketing hype. Lost in Translation.

Looking like an offroader but with FWD makes them a CrossOver type thing, or a wanabee SUV,  Not a Sports Utility, Suburban Utility or Vehicle.

Just Tall Hatchbacks really.  Peugeot / Citroen / Renault / Vauxhall at least give drive mode to the front wheels as a help with traction.

 

Might as well call a Golf SV the Golf SUV. Carry people and luggage and a bit taller without more clearance or the option of AWD.

Or a MPV, or a Mid Size MPV.  Or just a car. Roof Rails fitted, not an estate / combi.

 

 

 

 

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Yes, basically the trend is to tall hatchbacks, not SUV's or people carriers etc. Call them what you will but Crossover is as good a term as any, unless anyone can come up with anything better??

 

 

 

 

For my wife and I this could be the perfect replacement for the Yeti. Was a little concerned about the amount of interior space as I'm 6' 1" but that's the same as the reviewer so no problem there and rear space is helped by not having the Karoqs tables. Unlike the Yeti, my wife will be driving it's replacement more as her Mini will be going and whilst she is happy with the size of the Karoq anything a little smaller is even better.

 

The load area is not very flat, as in nowhere close and I hope those bag hooks fold in!

 

Surprised it's got a manual handbrake (our preference though so thats another plus) though I guess it will have autohold etc. which works well with DSG.

 

So overall I really like it and after leaving it for awhile for teething problems to surface and for the 1.5 TSI to be sorted it will be given serious consideration.

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Interesting that from latest info it seems that the Kamiq will be the lowest of the Arona and T-Cross.

 

Yeti = 1671mm, Arona 1552mm, T-Cross 1559mm, Kamiq 1531mm. high.

So Arona is 4.68” lower than Yeti, T-Cross 4.4” and Kamiq 5.5” lower.  If seat heights are proportionate to height then you will sit over 5” lower in the Kamiq compared with Yeti. 

Golf is 1492mm high so Kamiq is only 39mm (1.53”) taller than the Golf whereas the Yeti was 179mm (7.07”) taller. Begs the question as to whether the Kamiq is anything but a slightly taller hatchback!

Exactly what it is, taller than a Scala. Car and taller car, both front wheel drive 5 seaters.

Not much ground clearance and option of some protection underneath.

Skoda do a Karoq for a bit taller 1,607 mm high, 4,382 mm long. 

 

If you want tall there is the Peugeot Rifter, Citroen Berlingo, or the Vauxhall Combo Life. 1,820 mm.

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Thanks for the chart but I, and I suspect many others, liked the Yeti because it was compact yet provided an elevated driving position. The latest batch of competitors offer the compact dimensions but not the elevated driving position, so what is their reason for being? 

So glad I bought one of the last manufactured Yeti’s to replace my 2012 model.

Just how it goes, plenty liked their Roomster for practicality, but like the Yeti never sold enough.

VW Caddy / Caddy Life not the same thing and too expensive.

May be how it goes, but as Expatman says what is the point, may as well get a Scala or if you want an SUV one of the other VWG marques.

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Just checked latest early video reviews of T Cross and Kamiq, have to say that the T Cross looks a heap better than the Kamiq in terms of a Yeti replacement. 

It is good that there are choices across the 4 VW Brands and the mechanics are all the same with the various engines.

You pay your money and have whatever version or style you want.

 

 

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Thanks Skoffski, as you says you pays your money and makes your choice. The problem I am having with the Kamiq is that it looks just like all the other small SUV/Crossovers. The T Cross at least has a more upright stance and doesn’t seem to sink into the sameness of the Arona, Kamiq, 2008 etc. 

Of course until we see them in the metal, sit in them, check boot space etc. we won’t know for sure but the T Cross does just look better to my eyes.

I see that Ford are planning to launch a new small SUV/Crossover to be called Puma later in 2019, it will be based on the highly praised Fiesta. That might well be worth waiting for.

I posted a video in the Electric Car section of this forum that has the Ford Presentation of the 2020 Ford Kuga.

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2 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

I posted a video in the Electric Car section of this forum that has the Ford Presentation of the 2020 Ford Kuga.

A write up of new Kuga in this week's AutoExpress, looks good but too big for me.

2 hours ago, Expatman said:

Just checked latest early video reviews of T Cross and Kamiq, have to say that the T Cross looks a heap better than the Kamiq in terms of a Yeti replacement. 

 

I agree, I prefer the shape of the T Cross as well as the colour choices.

That is how VW / AUDI always want it to be, the more easy on the eye models are what they sign off for VW & Audi. 

There will still be those that will go for the Skoda versions if they suit, are more practical or better value or the lease deal is better because you can not see the outside when drivig

unless you look in shop windows or at other cars the same as you go along.

1 hour ago, MarieK said:

 

I agree, I prefer the shape of the T Cross as well as the colour choices.

The shape might be nice but get inside one and you won't feel very well. The plastics are hard and nasty whilst the choice of fabric/trim is somewhere between bling and hideous. Just my opinion.

 

Colin

9 minutes ago, eribaMotters said:

The shape might be nice but get inside one and you won't feel very well. The plastics are hard and nasty whilst the choice of fabric/trim is somewhere between bling and hideous. Just my opinion.

 

Colin

 

I fully intend to visit showrooms and test drive any cars I shortlist before I buy. I have another year on my pch so plenty of time yet. 

I'll likely change my mind a few times before deciding, but I want something that ticks all the boxes in the same way as the Yeti does. If such a car exists for me :unsure:

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12 minutes ago, MarieK said:

 

I fully intend to visit showrooms and test drive any cars I shortlist before I buy. I have another year on my pch so plenty of time yet. 

I'll likely change my mind a few times before deciding, but I want something that ticks all the boxes in the same way as the Yeti does. If such a car exists for me :unsure:

Fully agree

 Problem for many of us is that the Yeti was unique and the possible replacements just too bland. Oh for a Mk 2 Yeti with improved refinement and modern standards.

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