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On 12/03/2019 at 10:03, VAGCF said:

For my wife and I this could be the perfect replacement for the Yeti. Was a little concerned about the amount of interior space as I'm 6' 1" but that's the same as the reviewer so no problem there and rear space is helped by not having the Karoqs tables. Unlike the Yeti, my wife will be driving it's replacement more as her Mini will be going and whilst she is happy with the size of the Karoq anything a little smaller is even better.

 

The load area is not very flat, as in nowhere close and I hope those bag hooks fold in!

 

Surprised it's got a manual handbrake (our preference though so thats another plus) though I guess it will have autohold etc. which works well with DSG.

 

So overall I really like it and after leaving it for awhile for teething problems to surface and for the 1.5 TSI to be sorted it will be given serious consideration.

 

Likewise - I need a smaller car for Mrs BJ to be happy with but that also suits me at 6ft4" Manual handbrake a bonus! Boot size important for the lifestyle we wish to be accustomed to (lots of European travel etc).

 

It is also looking like a fix is now available for the 1.5tsi that seems OK.
 

 

 

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    All a load of Kaq 

  • Merlin's Friend
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    As I mentioned in another thread I'm keeping mine (month younger than yours Colin) and will also fit the Michelins when needed. Why didn't Skoda listen to owners, professional reviewers and Clarkson,

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I shall wait and see until it is released as reports in the Kamiq section are saying that it's lower (and looks it) than the equivalent SEAT the Arona, which I don't really want.

 

As regards the 1.5 it looks as though the fix has maybe solved some issues but introduced others e.g. lack of low down power. I'm still to be convinced.

 

It may be that the 1.5 never provides the performance that it should/expected.

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16 hours ago, VAGCF said:

I shall wait and see until it is released as reports in the Kamiq section are saying that it's lower (and looks it) than the equivalent SEAT the Arona, which I don't really want.

Yeti = 1671mm high, Arona 1552mm and Kamiq 1531mm high. So Kamiq is 21mm lower than Arona - 3/4 inch in old money.  I wonder who really wants a low crossover vehicle, just as well buy an estate version of the Golf or new Scala and save some money. Alternatively there is the Citreon C3 Aircross which at 1637mm high stands head and shoulders over the Kamiq. Good reviews too.

I tried the arona when they first came out as a replacement for the yeti but it felt so much noticeably lower it was not worth considering  for me as the seating height in the yeti was just spot on for getting in and out.apart from all its other virtues so anybody who still drives a yeti and hopes the Komic will fit the bill I think they will be disappointed and the karrot is much more comparable  to the yeti but we all know what’s happened there,don’t we?

Thanks, that's useful to know. Had a Karoq as a courtesy car and it was nice apart from the lack of go from the 1.6 diesel. Just thought that something a little smaller would be good.

 

Son's having my wife's Mini so will start looking more seriously at Yeti replacements but as I've said we are in no rush.

Hi,

 

My wife Bron and I love our Yeti; it's booked in at DMK Wakefield tomorrow morning for its first MOT. Normally we trade in at three years or less and since 1990 have owned 9 x Micras; 2 x Aygos; 1 x Fabia Monte Carlo and now this current Yeti. Why oh why Skoda dropped the Yeti beats us; we wouldn't have hesitated in buying another new Yeti this year because the Yeti is just so good all round and has great street presence lacking in modern cars which are virtually clones of each other. 

 

A couple of months ago we spent £600 on Michelin cross climate tyres knowing we would be keeping our Yeti; it's done around 18,500 miles and having just polished it with Williams it's gleaming like new in the sunshine. It's a joy to drive and to own and running costs don't bankrupt us; £30 per year road tax it being the 2.0 L SE L diesel adblue model with cheap comprehensive insurance; it easily managed 60mpg with the original tyres fitted but now with the Michelins on the same journey struggles to manage 54 mpg but still not bad. It quickly turns into a decent sized van for trips to the tip with garden debris. Unless something untowards happens our Yeti is a keeper.

 

Kind regards, Colin.

 

 

I can’t understand why most people change their car so often, often for the same again but new as they liked the old one.

I have had company cars for years which were replaced every 4 years but they had loads of life left.

however we tend to buy a near new car for my wife and keep it at least 6 years and in one case 9, only getting rid when big bills looming.

Current Yeti is mine now as company scheme stopped and I bought a good spec new and hope to drive it for many more years and get my full monies worth.

As I mentioned in another thread I'm keeping mine (month younger than yours Colin) and will also fit the Michelins when needed. Why didn't Skoda listen to owners, professional reviewers and Clarkson, who almost all liked the Yeti, mostly putting it above the Qashqai which somehow well outsold it. Was it just waiting times? Or was it an error in marketing by Skoda? Surely a Mk2 Yeti would have sold well if properly marketed?

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20 minutes ago, Merlin's Friend said:

As I mentioned in another thread I'm keeping mine (month younger than yours Colin) and will also fit the Michelins when needed. Why didn't Skoda listen to owners, professional reviewers and Clarkson, who almost all liked the Yeti, mostly putting it above the Qashqai which somehow well outsold it. Was it just waiting times? Or was it an error in marketing by Skoda? Surely a Mk2 Yeti would have sold well if properly marketed?

You overestimate the general publics appreciation of useful design. Basically a car has to look fashionable - like everything else - so smooth looking cars like Quashkai, Tiguan, Peugeot 2008 etc trump the Yeti's more upright, van like looks. Sad but true.

£25,000 + for a 1.0 litre  top end T cross ,hope any Yeti equivalents have a more realistic price!

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38 minutes ago, Sad555 said:

£25,000 + for a 1.0 litre  top end T cross ,hope any Yeti equivalents have a more realistic price!

Top end Arona is less than £23,000 but does without many of the extras you get with top end T Cross - heated seats for example. I suspect the top Kamiq specced up to the top end T Cross will be in the £24,000+ range; but let’s wait and see. 

Fact is that manufacturers are cashing in on the public's love affair with small SUV’s, real test is to compare with new Scala or Leon or even Golf. Now the Arona, Kamiq etc. don’t even provide the elevated driving position of the Yeti so harder to justify extra cost over hatchbacks or estate versions.

And that’s without the fantastic smooth 1.5ltr engine so perhaps closer to £30.000 for a little T cross

Hi,

 

Our Yeti sailed through its first MOT this morning with just under 19,000 miles on its clock. We've been offered a three year (36 months) Service contract at £867.60 which we've declined neither will we extend the warranty; we'll just pay the bills as they appear. Roadside assistance is something to sort out quickly. We love our Yeti.

 

Kind regards, Colin.

I also had a set of Cross-Climates fitted a few months ago as thought we might be keeping it. Has 32k. on the clock now.

 

But due to lower annual mileage we are now looking to change to petrol and outside of VWG.

Hi,

 

At first we were concerned our 7,000 miles per year would be a problem owning a diesel Yeti VAGCF but in reality the Yeti has been fine although every week we have at least one round trip of 50 miles on the motorway so it's not just used for shopping. It's only a few years ago the government wanted everyone in diesel cars and diesel was cheaper than petrol but once we bought diesel cars then diesel is now the villain; perhaps in another few years diesel will be favoured once again; we've already got a lovely diesel Yeti fully paid for costing very little to run; even with comprehensive insurance loaded up with no claims protection; breakdown and car hire etc. it only costs just over £400 per year (LV); being the adblue model road tax at only £30 per year; 50 or over mpg; full leather interior; SE L trimmings; comfortable and a joy to own and drive whilst turning into a decent sized van with a level loading deck due to spare wheel it suits us perfectly and we like its boxy road presence. We wouldn't even consider replacing it with a petrol car just because petrol is now the government's preferred fuel. I like the idea of electric cars but the infrastructure is so poor at the moment regarding charging and electric cars are still expensive; if we wait I'm sure electric car prices will be more reasonable; I worked 24 years before retirement for Brook motors and realize the benefits of electric motors but even electric cars are dirty for the environment; electricity has to be generated.

 

Just me rambling on. 

 

Kind regards, Colin.

  • 3 weeks later...

Hi,

 

A Yeti replacement for us perhaps. Whilst out today we parked next to a Jeep Renegade and liked the looks of it being similar to the Yeti. I've just had a quick look online at the Renegade and it's certainly one to consider with its five year warranty; five year roadside assistance and three years free servicing.  We don't want to part with our Yeti but neither do we like owning cars older than three years being able to afford a new car without too much problem; had Skoda still manufactured the Yeti we'd certainly have bought another this year. 

 

We'll keep our Yeti at least another year but it doesn't stop me looking at other cars; if we change I doubt it will be another Skoda; new Skoda's are capable enough on paper but unfortunately they now look like most other cars on the road;  has anyone else considered trading in against a Renegade?

 

Kind regards, Colin.

4 hours ago, Fabcol said:

Hi,

 

A Yeti replacement for us perhaps. Whilst out today we parked next to a Jeep Renegade and liked the looks of it being similar to the Yeti. I've just had a quick look online at the Renegade and it's certainly one to consider with its five year warranty; five year roadside assistance and three years free servicing.  We don't want to part with our Yeti but neither do we like owning cars older than three years being able to afford a new car without too much problem; had Skoda still manufactured the Yeti we'd certainly have bought another this year. 

 

We'll keep our Yeti at least another year but it doesn't stop me looking at other cars; if we change I doubt it will be another Skoda; new Skoda's are capable enough on paper but unfortunately they now look like most other cars on the road;  has anyone else considered trading in against a Renegade?

 

Kind regards, Colin.

 

I traded my first Yeti in for a new Renegade when it first came out. It was a very good car, only hassle I had was the alarm randomly going off and tricky to get it to stop (software issue). 

After two years I sold it as I had the chance of a great pch deal on another Yeti, which allowed me to save £200 a month. I've recently extended the lease for a third year whilst considering my options.

I believe the Renegade has had a facelift now with new engine options. I would happily recommend it as a potential Yeti replacement. Here's a pic of the one I had.

 

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Maybe this could be a Yeti replacement in a couple of years for anyone wanting a EV if Skoda are not going to do a Yeti EV which they probably could have easily done.

Easy in and easy out and good all around visibility. 

 

(I like the comment i read that if VW did it with 300 BHP it could be called the R-Soul.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

 

Thanks MarieK for the Renegade thumbs up and your ownership experience. Skoda's are no longer cheap so there are lots of severe competitors for the same suv market. Money isn't a problem but very few cars appeal to us; we liked the "Tonka Toy" style of the Yeti making it stand out with great street presence also it's a wonderful all round car to own and a joy to drive; I'm just worried about these modern cars with ever increasing electronics complexity just waiting to go wrong which they surely will then the repair costs take off; I don't trust anything to last long if it has a circuit board installed. Just the way I feel so we like to keep cars always under manufacturers warranty; I looked at the Skoda extended warranty but fear if something expired on our Yeti it wouldn't be covered in the small print. Your Renegade looks a beauty the colour suits it well. Yes Renegades have received a face lift and a quick browse of details there appear to be a large choice of engines; one to have a close look at in a year or less? 

 

Thanks Skoffski for all the Kia information; another interesting Yeti replacement but of the Renegade and Soul I think the Renegade gets my vote on looks because of its more boxy shape. I would be happy to own an all electric car but with all the talk about the environment what's going to happen at end of battery life and really batteries aren't nice to start with. My departments at work ran both electric and diesel fork lift trucks; the electric trucks were allowed right inside the factory but the diesel was more limited due to exhaust emissions; of the two the diesel was the best because it would run forever as long as it was fuelled; the electric trucks though meant swapping batteries half way through each shift because of their workload; these batteries being extremely heavy and needing to be craned in and out.

 

Out of interest we were watching a motorway cop episode on TV and an electric car had been involved in a road accident; the police dare not touch the car until the fire brigade arrived in case the car was electrically live; something I hadn't even considered. I do however like electric motors having spent 24 years in the electric motor industry; (Brook Crompton)  I must be one of very few to physically handle over  one million motors. 1,300 motors per working day through the headquarters I worked at with other factories feeding us motors we being the central despatch hub. Electric motors are extremely reliable as long as they are well made to start with.

 

If Skoda ever manufacture a car with similar looks to the Yeti then we would definitely consider another Skoda but until then unfortunately Skoda for us is not an option.

 

Kind regards, Colin.

Some really cheap AWD Renegade slightly used about just now in the UK.

& even cheaper FWD ones.

 

 

 

On 17/04/2019 at 16:17, Fabcol said:

Hi,

 

At first we were concerned our 7,000 miles per year would be a problem owning a diesel Yeti VAGCF but in reality the Yeti has been fine although every week we have at least one round trip of 50 miles on the motorway so it's not just used for shopping. It's only a few years ago the government wanted everyone in diesel cars and diesel was cheaper than petrol but once we bought diesel cars then diesel is now the villain; perhaps in another few years diesel will be favoured once again; we've already got a lovely diesel Yeti fully paid for costing very little to run; even with comprehensive insurance loaded up with no claims protection; breakdown and car hire etc. it only costs just over £400 per year (LV); being the adblue model road tax at only £30 per year; 50 or over mpg; full leather interior; SE L trimmings; comfortable and a joy to own and drive whilst turning into a decent sized van with a level loading deck due to spare wheel it suits us perfectly and we like its boxy road presence. We wouldn't even consider replacing it with a petrol car just because petrol is now the government's preferred fuel. I like the idea of electric cars but the infrastructure is so poor at the moment regarding charging and electric cars are still expensive; if we wait I'm sure electric car prices will be more reasonable; I worked 24 years before retirement for Brook motors and realize the benefits of electric motors but even electric cars are dirty for the environment; electricity has to be generated.

 

Just me rambling on. 

 

Kind regards, Colin.

I think this issue is overstated, and as long as use is reasonable it should not be an issue. If the car is not used, but parked, it is not filling up its dpf or clogging the egr valve. My wifes diesel fabia has been doing less than 4k a year since we bought it one year old in 2014 with 11k on the clock (ex hire car); no issues at all to date, never had the warning light come on, never had to take it for an extended run, yet has all the same dpf and egr installation as tper he Yeti, and the same engine I had in a previous Greenline. Taking it to York and back every other week or so, return trip of about 50 miles has kept it working fine even though all the other use has been to a supermarket 5 miles away etc. Use may change in the future though so I will keep this under review as number two cost centre is no longer in York.

I don't think petrol is the goverments prefered fuel as the recent rush back to petrol has caused a new spike in co2 emmisions. The government has not increased the tax on diesel recently, my June 2017 Yeti costs less to tax than equivalent cars from pre april 2017, fuel taxes have not changed, recent Euro 6 diesels post 2015 are not being restricted or charged more to enter polluted zones etc. The villain is the older cars which are still going to be on the road until they are a write off economically. I suspect they don't know what to do and it is the VW scandal which has caused this issue, and they would be happy for us to continue buting current clean diesels until electric cars are more viable. If we all changed to electric over the next couple of years the electric grid would fall over anyway!

That National Grid falling over might be the English bit, or in the south where most power already gets used and least produced as there is plenty of Renewables being generated, or can be but no way of storing, 

and still the Gas (Combined Cycle Gas Turbine) gets used and the imported electric is being bought in, but then the public pay to have all the sources on standby anyway and pay the expensive tariffs when there can be energy used at offpeak from the renewable sources and stored in vehicle batteries and in homes and workplaces.

http://gridwatch.co.uk

 

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The major almost insuperable problem with Electric cars is the speed of charging, until they can be recharged at the same rate as filling with petrol/diesel they can only be a shortish journey system. Imagine driving to Cornwall/Scotland/Wales on holiday - 400 miles and likely in heavy traffic - and the queues there would be at charging stations if recharging took 30 minutes plus! Back ups for miles and very frustrated passengers and drivers. Then when you arrived at some idyllic cottage where would you charge your car when it is likely the only available parking space is a few hundred yards from the cottage? 

The elegant solution is hydrogen fuelled cars producing just water as an emission, fill up almost as fast as petrol/diesel and available at conventional filling stations. However, until then it seems to me that it will be necessary to have 2 cars - an electric one for shortish journeys up to about 100 miles - and the other petrol/diesel powered for longer journeys, or perhaps you rent a petrol/diesel car for long journeys. Problem then is economics of car rental services and petrol/diesel filling stations, if the majority of local journeys are by electric car charged at home then how could conventional filling stations survive selling so much less petrol/diesel daily? Okay those on major motorway networks might be viable but certainly not those off the major  networks. Car rental agencies would need a large number of vehicles in holiday months but far fewer at other times - a very expensive operation.

I think there is a lot of wishful thinking among the green brigade and until I hear a sensible answer to the refuelling question I am not convinced of the electric future the Government seem hell bent on driving to. It has all the shades of the dash to diesel we suffered before - and look where that got us!

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All relevant until the Battery Storage is at Transport Hubs, Park & Rides, Public Charging Stations, Filling Stations, Service Stations, Fast Food Outlets, Hotel / Motels / Supermarkets etc etc.  Like maybe where you change cars leaving your city car and collecting a larger car, van etc for longer distances.

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My daughter has just moved into an eco estate in Norwich. House built to a really good insulation and needs little heating. Also very good noise wise as a terraced property and you can't hear anything from the adjoining houses. Some houses on the estate are even more advanced with no gas boiler heating at all and projected annual heating bill of under £100.

 

Yet the car parking has no provision for electric charging. It would be impossible to take a cable from the house to the car over the footpath and grassed area, even if you were lucky enough to get the nearest spot - very shortsighted.

 

I do agree about hydrogen, that seems to be the best bet for the future of vehicular transport. Personally think battery power is a cul de sac technology that will have to be abandoned as impracticable.

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