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Going to lower my vRS, few questions.

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So have been mulling this over in my head since the start of the year and my only concern is if lowered my 2015 vRS may scrape when reversing onto my drive (its on an upwards slope to the house) but now im in the mindset of what the hell and if it scraps then i can always change back. Now keep in mind that ive never had my cars lowered before so please excuse some of these question if they are stupid.

 

I understand that H&R Springs are the largely recommended springs to go with on the vRS, is this still the case?

 

40mm springs seem what everyone recommends, can this be adjusted for example if my car does scrape can the car be risen slightly or is it just the one height when the springs are fitted? 

 

Is there any other parts i need or just the springs themselves?

 

I have the Super Skoda DTM front bumber fitted (as im sure many of you do) and with normal height curbs when parking straight on to the curb does the front of the car (with DTM bumper) clear the curb still?

 

By how much is the car actually lowered when H&R springs are fitted over the standard vRS springs, its not actually 40mm lower right?

 

Whats the part number for the H&R springs for vRS and best place to get them?

 

thanks for the help!

 

 

Edited by BlockABoots

15 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

So have been mulling this over in my head since the start of the year and my only concern is if lowered my 2015 vRS may scrape when reversing onto my drive (its on an upwards slope to the house) but now im in the mindset of what the hell and if it scraps then i can always change back. Now keep in mind that ive never had my cars lowered before so please excuse some of these question if they are stupid.

 

I understand that H&R Springs are the largely recommended springs to go with on the vRS, is this still the case?

 

Yes most people use H&R Or Eibach springs.

 

Just one height unless you get coilovers. 

 

15 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

 

Is there any other parts i need or just the springs themselves?

 

Some folks do change the shocks but some don't.

 

15 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

 

I have the Super Skoda DTM front bumber fitted (as im sure many of you do) and with normal height curbs when parking straight on to the curb does the front of the car (with DTM bumper) clear the curb still?

 

By how much is the car actually lowered when H&R springs are fitted over the standard vRS springs, its not actually 40mm lower right?

 

Whats the part number for the H&R springs for vRS and best place to get them?

 

thanks for the help!

 

You could buy the Eibach pro-kit which lowers front up to 20mm & the rear up to 10mm.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eibach-Pro-Kit-Lowering-Springs-Skoda-Octavia-Mk3-5E3-2-0-TSI-vRS-2-0-TDI-vRS/311760823124?epid=2108566554&hash=item489664a354:g:PbUAAOSw241YUt0q

 

You can actually buy them probably cheaper from German eBay website. 

 

You can't adjust the height of the lowering springs. Coilovers would be your best bet if you'd be needing to adjust the height.

 

On a car as big as an Octavia, I'd suggest changing the dampers with the springs. The OEM dampers are there to work with the OEM springs. Some people don't change them, others do. Your choice.

 

If you're worried about scraping on 'things', my advice would be to

 

  • drive upto said obstacles
  • have a second person measure how much clearance you have between, for example, your front lip and the obstacle.
  • take the lowest reading of all said measurements and that's the lowest you'd be able to drop the car

That's a rough guide, as it doesn't take wheels size, spacers and car load into consideration, but it's a good way to start. The only thing with taking a static height is that doesn't take into account any suspension travel going over any bumps. I've a good bit of play in between my front splitter and my driveway, but when I reverse up my driveway the front wheels drop into a gutter and the front dips a bit. So the original measurement I think would be safe is more than halved.

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2 hours ago, tunedude said:

I've a good bit of play in between my front splitter and my driveway, but when I reverse up my driveway the front wheels drop into a gutter and the front dips a bit. So the original measurement I think would be safe is more than halved.

 

Yeah that sounds like the same scenario as mine where the gutter dips down slightly, i find if i reverse at an angle to drop isnt so great

H&R do some rear height adjustable springs now. Fronts are a normal lowering spring and the rear use and adjustable height platform like the coil overs. I’ll have a look for a link 

My biggest fear with lowering mines is the plastic sump.

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Ok so ive tried measuring the clearance at various points when drive down from my drive to the road, now if i drive straight down my drive to the road (which id never do as id end up crashing to the cars parked across the road) then id probably end up scrapping the front skirt with the height as it is now! but with the usual angle i take out of my drive onto the road the lowest measurement i could get was approx 4.75cm now obviously this was with the car stopped while i got out and measured so maybe take a bit more off for compression in the springs when the car is in motion so lets say 4cm of clearance at its lowest point.

 

How much physically is the car lowered with the H&R springs its not actually the full 40mm/4cm is it, i thought i saw somewhere it was in the region of 25cm from the stock VRS height?

Edited by BlockABoots

2 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

Ok so ive tried measuring the clearance at various points when drive down from my drive to the road, now if i drive straight down my drive to the road (which id never do as id end up crashing to the cars parked across the road) then id probably end up scrapping the front skirt with the height as it is now! but with the usual angle i take out of my drive onto the road the lowest measurement i could get was approx 4.75cm now obviously this was with the car stopped while i got out and measured so maybe take a bit more off for compression in the springs when the car is in motion so lets say 4cm of clearance at its lowest point.

 

How much physically is the car lowered with the H&R springs its not actually the full 40mm/4cm is it, i thought i saw somewhere it was in the region of 25cm from the stock VRS height?

 

I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure the VRS is 15mm lower than a standard Octavia. And the 40mm figure is from the standard, so it would be just a 25mm lower from the set that claims 40mm, if that makes sense.

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1 hour ago, Saints92 said:

 

I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure the VRS is 15mm lower than a standard Octavia. And the 40mm figure is from the standard, so it would be just a 25mm lower from the set that claims 40mm, if that makes sense.

 

Ah ok so i have 25mm to play with, so i should be just about ok for clearance.

 

Are the H&R string supposed to be slightly stiffer than the factory fitted springs? if so i guess they will be less compression when going up and down my drive compared to the factory springs

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So i had a cunning plan, i got a couple of bits of polystyrene and cut them to 35mm then got some double sided sticky tape and tape them to the underside of the front skirt/spoiler on each corner and then reversed up the drive to see if they got snapped off. Sadly the drivers side was fine but the passengers one got snapped off, so there really isnt much room to play with at all, i was hoping 35mm would of still cleared the tarmac but sadly not. I guess i could try again with 25mm cut bits of polystyrene but this is with just myself in the car and no one else or shopping in the boot so really wont have much to play with at all, it it wasn't for the front skirt/spoiler i added on then i dont think it would be an issue, its just that the front of that Super Skoda DTM spoiler has that lip on it which must add another 10mm to the clearance

 

Maybe i need to start looking at 35mm strings instead, any suggestions on 30-35mm?. Think the Eibach pro-kit wouldn't look a lot different at only 10mm difference on the rear so not sure thats worth it

 

Saw these DPM Performance ones but not sure on the qaulity!??

https://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/car-parts/skoda/octavia/ap-35mm-lowering-suspension-springsoctavia-1u-19962006-14-16-18t-19sdi-20-inc-vrs

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If clearance is an issue, getting a relatively cheap set of coil overs may benefit you more.

 

Then you'd be able to adjust the height to the lowest safe limit.

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1 hour ago, tunedude said:

If clearance is an issue, getting a relatively cheap set of coil overs may benefit you more.

 

Then you'd be able to adjust the height to the lowest safe limit.

 

Any suggestions for a good budget coil over set?, im guessing even a budge set are going to be about £300+?

Edited by BlockABoots

6 minutes ago, BlockABoots said:

 

Can coil overs be used on the stock springs?

 

Any suggestions for a good budget coil over set?

 

No, coilovers replaces the springs and the shocks altogether. It's a complete unit rather than 2 separate components.

 

This page is should showing examples of what is on offer - Octavia Mk3 (5E) - Awesomegti.com - Coilover kits

 

The more expensive ones have more adjustability in the damping on the shock side of things. Just make sure you look at the ones which say 'for multi link rear suspension' or words to that effect :thumbup:

 

The extra price you pay comes from the ability to adjust the settings, rather than them being fixed like you'd get on a set of lowering springs / sports shocks.

Edited by tunedude

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2 minutes ago, tunedude said:

 

No, coilovers replaces the springs and the shocks altogether. It's a complete unit rather than 2 separate components.

 

This page is should showing examples of what is on offer - Octavia Mk3 (5E) - Awesomegti.com - Coilover kits

 

The more expensive ones have more adjustability in the damping on the shock side of things. Just make sure you look at the ones which say 'for multi link rear suspension' or words to that effect :thumbup:

 

The extra price you pay comes from the ability to adjust the settings, rather than them being fixed like you'd get on a set of lowering springs / sports shocks.

 

Thanks and they can be adjust easily enough, no trips to the garage to get them adjusted??

Just now, BlockABoots said:

 

Thanks and they can be adjust easily enough, no trips to the garage to get them adjusted??

 

In theory yes, it's just the annoyance of having to take the wheels on and off to adjust the nut thingymajig which controls the height.

 

This video shows you perfectly what to do. It's a similar process for most - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GI2QbZ8fI

 

A friend on his 3 series got a set put on, had a relatively average lowering put on to the car when they were fitted and then did some 'tests' similar to what you've done. He then took it back the garage and said 'the car can be dropped happily by another 15mm ( I think it was ). They done their magic and charged him a bit of labour for doing so. Only thing with that is at least you the wheels on both sides of the axle have had the same drop, rather than one having 15mm drop and the other only 10mm for example.

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