Hi all, 

I have a question that may have been asked here. I was just at a Skoda Service to get the DSG oil change. When I asked if the filter was changed they told me that I have no filter. I cannot find information online that can confirm that. Everywhere I see there is a filter change as well. So I was wondering if the guys in the garage have missed that. 

 

Another surprise in the garage was the charge. Over the phone I was quoted £189 for DSG Oil Change and in the garage, I was told that my gear box requires a "more expensive" oil, as it has a wet clutch. And was given the price of £248 (after a discount) . So I was wondering if someone had a similar experience? 

 

My gearbox is 6 speed DSG from 2008, on Skoda Octavia, 2.0 FSi Elegance. 
 

Thank you 

 

DSG oil and filter change is a fixed cost for a 6 speed as far as i know just under £200. 

If yours is a 2.0 FSI then it won't be a dsg box, it's a traditional torque convertor automatic.

14 hours ago, softscoop said:

If yours is a 2.0 FSI then it won't be a dsg box, it's a traditional torque convertor automatic.

I think you are right. I can see that on my Skoda File it says Octavia Elegance 2.0 FSI Tiptronic.

That would explain the higher price. Thank you for pointing this out. 

DO you have any idea how often these gearboxes have to be serviced? Are they reliable? 

There is no service schedule for the Tiptronic box. 

If you asked for a DSG service, which was due to mileage or time limits and you do not have a gearbox that is a DSG or even has the same maintenance schedule they probably should of told you that before spending your £250!

Yeah, I’d ask them what they think they are doing

@Kmeta

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What is on the Invoice, as in how many litres or Units of Oil and @ what cost per Unit, and what part number?

On 12/09/2019 at 18:33, Kmeta said:

I think you are right. I can see that on my Skoda File it says Octavia Elegance 2.0 FSI Tiptronic.

That would explain the higher price. Thank you for pointing this out. 

DO you have any idea how often these gearboxes have to be serviced? Are they reliable? 

They are supposed to be lifetime fill but really need a drain/refill every 60k km as VWs version of lifetime is about 150k-200k.

 

Personally I think they are an unreliable gearbox but most "older" Euro torque converter boxes are, compared to the more usual japanese / AU stuff that we get down here.

@brad1.8T

Where does this 60km oil change stuff come from for a 'Tiptronic' box?   

Do you have experience of them?

37,000 miles is just ridiculous for changes of oil with these boxes, they are not a DSG.

Location location location and the UK is not Australia so different environmental conditions.

 

Audi do not help much with the name they use for the boxes.

Edited 1 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

On 01/10/2019 at 17:52, Roottootemoot said:

@brad1.8T

1) Where does this 60km oil change stuff come from for a 'Tiptronic' box?   

Do you have experience of them?

37,000 miles is just ridiculous for changes of oil with these boxes, they are not a DSG.

Location location location and the UK is not Australia so different environmental conditions.

 

Audi do not help much with the name they use for the boxes.

 

If you mean the automatic in the 2.0FSI then it's just a torque converter auto.

I'll try and dot-point.

 

1) 60,000km is what any independant VAG specialist down here in Australia recommends given the history of total failure anytime from 120,000km onwards.  The dealerships continue to state they are a "lifetime fill" and that they are a non-serviceable component.  VW say this because they really don't care if the car lasts much beyond 8 years. 

 

I was looking at buying a Golf Auto for my daughter and my independant VW workshop (he's from London) told me to stay away. 

 

2) It's a slushbox auto.  It generates heat and has clutches that wear.  It doesn't matter what brand it is.  (source: me - qualified motor mechanic that worked in an automatic transmission workshop in the 80s.  Now a Mech Eng).

 

3) Why is it ridiculous?  See #2.   My attitude is that I'd rather over-service something at a cost of $200-$400 and not have a failure than leave it alone and have a $4000-$6000 failure that could make the car an economic write-off (cost of repairs out of proportion to value of car).

 

4) Sure.  It gets hot (and humid) here (we had a 25.5 celcius day on 25 Aug this winter) and 40c+ days are becoming annoyingly common.  But our traffic isn't quite as bad as London and traffic generates heat.

 

5) Audi transmission (and engine) designations are always confusing and without any logic... and the transmission are high maintenance.

 

You are entitled to your opinion and to act accordingly.  It doesn't affect me.  I'm just putting it out there that they aren't as "sealed for life" as what VAG say and that servicing is needed.

 

It's a beautiful 27c spring day in Sydney today.  The sky goes on forever.  Happy days

 

 

On 11/09/2019 at 18:38, softscoop said:

If yours is a 2.0 FSI then it won't be a dsg box, it's a traditional torque convertor automatic.

Hi. You are right. It is a traditional torque converter. So this issue is sorted out. 

 

What confused me is the Skoda customer service representative, who quoted me for a DSG box service in the first place. 

 

Thank you all