10 minutes ago, D402 said:

Enough time to appreciate the 700+ mile fuel range 😉

Meh.  300 is the new 700 😲

9 minutes ago, D402 said:

Enough time to appreciate the 700+ mile fuel range 😉

I managed 800 miles from my 2016 Mk3 Superb 1.4TSi manual SE FROM ONE TANK. ACT helps it sip petrol, really no need for diesel unless you tow something heavy.

14 minutes ago, D402 said:

Enough time to appreciate the 700+ mile fuel range 😉

 

It's what you do with it that matters not how big it is 😉

40 minutes ago, Nick_H said:

 

It's what you do with it that matters not how big it is 😉

Exactly, thrusting performance takes a lot of energy so  SWMBO informs me.

Edited 26 November, 20196 yr by shyVRS245
WRONG WORD

16 minutes ago, D402 said:

Enough time to appreciate the 700+ mile fuel range 😉

 

1000km per tank in the petrol, plenty of time for pondering in both. 😉

 

Diesel 5 series was the only car I ever drove off after buying, and my first thought was "F***, what have a I done?".  Honestly, it was a horrible feeling!

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

I managed 800 miles from my 2016 Mk3 Superb 1.4TSi manual SE FROM ONE TANK. ACT helps it sip petrol, really no need for diesel unless you tow something heavy.

👍 Very impressive, but not typical I suspect?

31 minutes ago, D402 said:

👍 Very impressive, but not typical I suspect?

It averaged over 50mpg in the 16,000 miles I did. My 300bhp Octavia Vrs245 has averaged over 40mpg over 28,300 miles since replacing the Superb. Having a nice commute helps (54 miles per day).

On 26/11/2019 at 11:32, D402 said:

👍 Very impressive, but not typical I suspect?

Probably not but I did get 730 miles of Glasgow to the west coast of Wales and back in a day. 70mph motorway and rural Welsh roads. High 40s mpg.  

I was looking at a car and the blurb said ".....any car welcome in part exchange (no diesels)......"

 

Worrying!

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Edited 15 December, 20196 yr by mark674500

Diesel vs Petrol has pluses and minuses like everything in this awesome world. Polluting wise, diesels are not as terrible as a lot of people claim. However it does depend on usage. For city driving diesel is defo worse as the engine/dpf/etc never gets hot enough to burn the "bad" particles that diesel produces. But outside city like on Highways diesel will always win. Not just because of low consumption but also the durability, torque (low revs at high speeds, quiet and refined drive (I'm not talking about 110kph speed limits, but autobahn 140-200kph)) etc... I always preferred diesel over petrol but I can not say that petrol is terrible or anything like that. I actually like refinement of the petrol and the quietness on standstill. But my Superb diesel was just awesome. Now on Volvo I have very high consumption and since of the auto that volvo has, diesel vs petrol is so close that I could see myself switching to petrol easily. The consumption on this car is just too high for diesel. But back to point, Superb, was amazing with 190hp engine. I could easily get 4.3-5L consumption per 100km.

So my pros for Diesel:
- Lower torque range
- Very quiet highway driving at higher speeds
- Low fuel consumption 
- Less maintenance required
- Cheaper fuel (diesel is cheaper here)

Cons:
- Noisier engine in idle
- More vibrations across all RPM range
- Potentially more issues if DPF/Adblue system fails
- For city driving pollutions are higher

I do about 20K-40K km a year, so diesel is way better choice for me. 
Diesel bans are happening for old highly polluting diesels, so I would not worry about that until all new cars are electric.

P.S.: If you doubt my conclusions regarding highway/reliability ask yourself why trucks and heavy duty vehicles that do a lot of mileage / work are literally all diesels. 
P.P.S.: I've read somewhere in topic that diesels are more sensitive to the fuel you put in, that's very very wrong. Actually the petrol is much more sensitive but the thing is that petrol quality control is better than diesel. But you can run diesel on refined cooking oil in which you fried your chips.  

Another very interesting thread....... i have a 1.6TDI Fabia and am looking to change it for a Superb or maybe a VRS Octy or ....... well you get the idea my options are wide. I don't need a diesel as i only cover 26 miles a day on the daily commute (a bit of traffic though), my main reason for now only looking at petrol is not just to do with this, i think the perception of diesel is such that the writing is on the wall when it comes to the govt making them less desirable in the future, right or wrong this is how i think it will go, then of course followed by petrol in the many years ahead, but i do think buying a new (ish) car that is a diesel would be a mistake for me right now, i would have to be doing moon mileage for it to be of use.

 

I want an auto though for the commute and am a little dubious about a DSG as i sit in standing traffic a lot...... i need a luxury petrol car with decent RFL charges and a conventional auto box !!!!

On 26/11/2019 at 11:32, D402 said:

👍 Very impressive, but not typical I suspect?

Getting just over 45mpg from my 1.4 petrol. Am delighted with mpg since I got it.

2 hours ago, Hudson1 said:

 

 

I want an auto though for the commute and am a little dubious about a DSG as i sit in standing traffic a lot...... i need a luxury petrol car with decent RFL charges and a conventional auto box !!!!

The DSG is a fantastic gearbox, I've driven with it in Fabias Octys and Superbs. You won't regret getting one!

 

If you want low rfl, you can filter a search on auto trader to get cars up to £30, or even up to £20, with petrol auto, and have plenty of Skoda's to choose from.

 

 

2 hours ago, Hudson1 said:

 

I want an auto though for the commute and am a little dubious about a DSG as i sit in standing traffic a lot...

The DSG will be fine as long as you don't hold the car on the foot brake. This can be easily avoided using the auto handbrake which will stop the gearbox dragging.

11 minutes ago, facet edge said:

The DSG will be fine as long as you don't hold the car on the foot brake. This can be easily avoided using the auto handbrake which will stop the gearbox dragging.

Not aware of this feature, i had heard that just putting your foot on the brake is bad for a DSG box but this is what i used to do when i had a standard auto years ago, and it was so easy to drive in traffic...... i am sick of manual and the hassle it gives me sitting in hours of traffic every day.

Yes the is a switch that activates auto hand brake and then, when you come to a stop you just have to give the brake pedal a firm push. The car then knows that you're going nowhere so it disengages the clutches.

As soon as you press the accelerator the handbrake automatically disengages.

Great for stopping on hills as well, no worries about running backwards.

'Autohold' when enabled and stopping and automatically holding a car is not the same as the E-Brake which is a Parking Brake.

20 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

'Autohold' when enabled and stopping and automatically holding a car is not the same as the E-Brake which is a Parking Brake.

Yes you are right, used the wrong term there but it still stops the car pulling which is what I was trying to say.

It does, and if not enough force applied and the cars moves it can apply more braking.

 

But take off your seat belt, or open the door and it is the Parking Brake that is applied. 

They use the same parts, in a different way. 

You can have 'Autohold' off, and use the E-Brake when stopped if you want.    Owners Manuals are such a good read....

2 hours ago, mark674500 said:

The DSG is a fantastic gearbox, I've driven with it in Fabias Octys and Superbs. You won't regret getting one!

 

If you want low rfl, you can filter a search on auto trader to get cars up to £30, or even up to £20, with petrol auto, and have plenty of Skoda's to choose from.

 

 

Please tell me where...at £20 or even £30, I'll have a couple please.

2 hours ago, facet edge said:

Yes the is a switch that activates auto hand brake and then, when you come to a stop you just have to give the brake pedal a firm push. The car then knows that you're going nowhere so it disengages the clutches.

As soon as you press the accelerator the handbrake automatically disengages.

Great for stopping on hills as well, no worries about running backwards.

Exactly. One of the est features of the car.

21 minutes ago, mandp said:

Please tell me where...at £20 or even £30, I'll have a couple please.

My manual FL Mk2 138bhp 2.0 litre diesel Superb Elegance produced 119gm/co2 was £30 per year road tax and our 63 plate (October 2013) Octavia Mk3 2.0 litre manual diesel SE with 16" alloys was £20 per year road tax with 148bhp (before a remap to 186bhp) and emissions of 106gm/co2.

On 18/12/2019 at 18:33, Hudson1 said:

Another very interesting thread....... i have a 1.6TDI Fabia and am looking to change it for a Superb or maybe a VRS Octy or ....... well you get the idea my options are wide. I don't need a diesel as i only cover 26 miles a day on the daily commute (a bit of traffic though), my main reason for now only looking at petrol is not just to do with this, i think the perception of diesel is such that the writing is on the wall when it comes to the govt making them less desirable in the future, right or wrong this is how i think it will go, then of course followed by petrol in the many years ahead, but i do think buying a new (ish) car that is a diesel would be a mistake for me right now, i would have to be doing moon mileage for it to be of use.

 

I want an auto though for the commute and am a little dubious about a DSG as i sit in standing traffic a lot...... i need a luxury petrol car with decent RFL charges and a conventional auto box !!!!

If VW bothered to program the dsg correctly, the clutch will be disengaged completely at standstill with brake pressed firmly (I think they do). You might feel the revs being a bit higher and that is probably the revs set to have a smooth take off . 

 

What you cannot do is crawling with brakes partly depressed or try to hold the car on an incline without brakes. That will slip the clutch and wear it. 

 

I normally put in neutral if I know I will be standstill for a bit otherwise just drive it like a usual auto. If I need to crawl , I make sure I do it with the brakes untouched so the clutch fully engages. 

10 hours ago, KeteCantek said:

 

I normally put in neutral if I know I will be standstill for a bit otherwise just drive it like a usual auto. If I need to crawl , I make sure I do it with the brakes untouched so the clutch fully engages. 

Isn't it easiest just to put it in park? That way you can take you foot off of the brakes but don't need to bother with the handbrake.