Soaking wet footwells

[clover]

Hello everyone, about 2-3 weeks ago, while reversing from my driveway ive notice some water dripping on my feet as well some on the front passenger's side. Before water dripping, I hear a noise coming from the rear end that sounded like a bottle emptying. 

 

Since then, every time when it's raining and the car does NOT move, water comes in on the front and rear passenger side. I have no idea where the rear side comes from, its just soaking wet. However, no water comes on the driver's side. It was just once.

 

While I guess it is the drainage of the pano, I have no idea where to look for that. Does anyone know how to fix this or anyone from Romford area can have a look at it?

 

2014 skoda superb estate with pano. 

[chimaera]

Probably blocked drains on the panoramic roof. Do a search around here, it's come up before how to clean them.

[DEL80Y]

Get reading this post about Pan roofs

A very common  problem 

click on the attached PDF and read that as well thats where the info is 
Even though its from a Yeti its the same problem over the VW range

Mines was lucky it was just the drain pipes that were loose and blocked others weren't  

[StuH78]

Yes it's from the roof, it's an appalling design.  Can be a number of things from blocked drains to cracks in the actual roof frame.  My main problem has been a crack between the aluminium and plastic on the frame, the Captains Tolley did absolutely nothing for me, was a complete waste of time.  The only way I stopped it was using Tiger Seal.  I've also has it leaking from the drain to hose connection, again a liberal helping of Tiger Seal has been used.  Mine is much better but not 100% convinced I've sorted it.  

[silver1011]

 

[clover]

Thanks everyone. After seeing that pdf and the work that needs to be done, i think i will put the car up for sale.

 

Its a 2014 superb 2l diesel, dsg 170 hp, L&K. Silver. About 150k miles. Anyone knows how much I could get for the car, considering the leaking issue? Or, anyone interested?

[silver1011]

Disable the sunroof switch, and a couple of tubes of this. Job done...

[superbdreams]

I doubt you are serious but if you are you would have to disable the motor not the switch as the car keyfob can also open it.

The one picture above makes me suspect the air filter looking at the drips on the bonnet release,

[silver1011]

I'm guessing any leakage from a sunroof would follow the path of least resistance, which would be around the door seals and down the A-pillar trim. In this case it wouldn't surprise me to see water running over the bonnet release catch as it is directly below the bottom of the A-pillar. If the pollen filter was swamped then water would likely either drop straight through the lid and directly onto the carpet, or down behind the fan and straight under the carpet above the passengers feet.

 

The disabling of the sunroof and sealing it externally was actually a genuine proposal. Pretty and professional it won't be, but watertight it will be.

 

Selling the car with a damp interior or visibly leaking sunroof will put off most buyers. Making good an otherwise potentially expensive repair and running a 150,000 mile Superb for another 100,000 miles and then scrapping it would be my choice. You still get the main advantage of the sunroof, a lighter interior, just without the ability to open it.

 

If you're good with a caulk gun you might actually make the application of the sealant look pretty neat too.

 

On a car worth less than £5,000 I wouldn't want to be going down this route...

 

 

[chimaera]

The front drain hoses drain into the space behind the wheelarch lining. On the rear they either drain to the wheelarch (older versions) or the channel surrouding the boot seal. It's well worth checking that those are clean before resorting to major disassembly or selling the car. The service manual recommends using a Bowden cable to do this, basically a length of wire rope. The manual suggests it's at least 2.3 m long. It's also worth checking the outlet valves for debris or blockage.

[clover]

3 hours ago, silver1011 said:

On a car worth less than £5,000 I wouldn't want to be going down this route...

 

so a 2014 L&K is worth less than 5K? regardless of the mileage, because it looks people roll back the mileage like filling up the fuel tank these days. when i got mine at 80k miles, there was a hole under the carpet where your heel rests, which i doubt it would happen after 80k miles. bough from skoda dealer. 

 

so seriously, less than 5k? I will smash it to the wall and get a lot more from insurance. webuyanycar offered 4k.

 

I will be happy with 6k, you think there's no chance to get that much? 

 

the idea was to fix the leaking and part exchange it for another car. i was offered £6900 from the dealer, but he doesnt know about the leaking.

Edited 6 November, 2019 by clover

[silver1011]

I've found webuyanycar relatively accurate in terms of a cars real trade-in value.

 

The main dealer part-exchange value will be higher as they'll be reducing the discount on the new car to inflate the part exchange value, or vice-versa.

 

My point was that there is little point spending £500 or more on a car worth £5,000, £6,000 or £7,000 if you're only going to sell it. You'll never get that money back.

 

I appreciate it is a smaller engine and a lower spec, but for your trade-in value with the dealer you can buy a MkIII, two years younger...

 

 

Opinion will very here, but if you're part exchanging, dry out the interior and don't mention it.

 

Or pay the money to get it fixed and either part exchange it with a clear conscience or keep it.

 

Or pay nothing, disable the roof, seal the leak and enjoy the car for what it is.

[clover]

3 hours ago, silver1011 said:

I've found webuyanycar relatively accurate in terms of a cars real trade-in value.

the car i want to get, a 9 seater mercedes is priced 21500 on the dealer, while on webuyanycar you only get 12500. i know dealers have higher prices, but i will never buy form a private seller a car worth over 5k. i have my reasons

i was really hoping to be the drain blocked and i will check that tomorrow with a mechanic. the thing is even if i wanted to get it fixed (which i dont), i dont have the time to do it. i know there were some issues with the pre-facelift model on the pano, i just hoped this one doesnt.

 

thanks a lot for everything, all feedbacks help a lot making a final decision.

 

one thing is CLEAR, i will never get a pano roof on any car ever.

[silver1011]

Too many complaints of panoramic sunroof leaks on the current MkIII Superb and Kodiaq.

 

Skoda haven't learnt.

 

Definately best avoided, which is a shame.

[clover]

the issue was a stranded tube of the drainage "system". it worked like that since manufacture and by time it collected dust and got stuck. the mechanic cut that part and replaced it with a L shape aluminium pipe and everything works like a charm now. but maaan, the amount of water inside, jesus. hopefully soon i will have the required time to dry it as well. the back footwell was flooded because the water travelled to the back when the car was moving. 

 

mystery solved, no silicon, no sealing, pano still works but with the regular and usual "cranks" and "clicks" noise now and then. but no matter what, i will never buy another car with pano, regardless of the brand.

 

so if this helps anyone, your pano might be ok, its just a damn tube that got stranded when they assembled the car.

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[silver1011]

Given that winter is right around the corner it would be a worthwhile investment hiring a professional dehumidifier for the weekend.

 

Otherwise the car will be constantly misting up, perhaps even ice on the inside of the glass i.e. a thoroughly miserable experience.

 

Then there is the exacerbation of the infamous dry solder joints on the back of the dash dials, they hate excessive moisture.

 

Get the interior properly dried out ASAP, £76 well spent...

 

[MikeH01]

I had the same problem last week with my 2013 L&K 88k miles, sunroof leaking into drivers footwell, first real problem I’ve had with the car. Took it to my brother in-laws garage, an independent specialist of VAG cars, he fixed it by securing the down tube in the A pillar with a cable tie, had to take the roof lining off to do it, cost less than £50.

 

I've since taken 3 litres of water out of the footwell carpet with a Bissell Spotcleaner and running a dehumidifier in the car now. Worth doing as it’s a lovely car to drive.

[Marccc]

First time poster,I have the exact same problem. Rear passenger footwell absolutely soaking wet and front is also wet but not as bad as the back. I haven't got a sunroof on mine so any ideas where the water could be coming from?

[superbdreams]

On 08/11/2019 at 05:16, clover said:

the issue was a stranded tube of the drainage "system". it worked like that since manufacture and by time it collected dust and got stuck. the mechanic cut that part and replaced it with a L shape aluminium pipe and everything works like a charm now. but maaan, the amount of water inside, jesus. hopefully soon i will have the required time to dry it as well. the back footwell was flooded because the water travelled to the back when the car was moving. 

 

mystery solved, no silicon, no sealing, pano still works but with the regular and usual "cranks" and "clicks" noise now and then. but no matter what, i will never buy another car with pano, regardless of the brand.

 

so if this helps anyone, your pano might be ok, its just a damn tube that got stranded when they assembled the car.

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[clover]

2 minutes ago, superbdreams said:

HEIC files will cost 79p to open using codec from microsoft store

Can you post a normal file?

assuming apple have found another way to annoy people lol

 

 

WOW!!! what the hell is that crap? i didnt even notice that!! the funny thing is that picture was taken with the iphone, uploaded on google photos and then downloaded on my pc from g photos. i was able to open it no issue, but i have a mac. now im writing this post from my phone and uploaded from it and it looks its a jpeg now. 

[silver1011]

Whereabouts was the narrowing of the pipe. i.e. before disassembly whereabouts between the roof and the exit point was the reduction in diameter?

[clover]

19 hours ago, silver1011 said:

Whereabouts was the narrowing of the pipe. i.e. before disassembly whereabouts between the roof and the exit point was the reduction in diameter?

 

that left metal thing where you can also see a part of that finger is the door’s hinge. hope this can give you an idea whereabouts was it stranded. or to be more precise, it is just where the bonnet handle is. 

[silver1011]

Thanks!