On 15/11/2019 at 17:33, silver1011 said:

Compared to a mapped Octavia vRS, it'll be sloowwwww.

 

Make sure it isn't one of the problematic 1.5 TSI's either.

 

I have the 1.5TSi and it's no slouch.   😉

That depends on your own interpretation of slouch 😀 500 miles in now, and forget any form of outpacing anything other than a transit van from the traffic lights. However, once you realise that it's not at all quick and just settle down to a sensible cruise, it's actually a nice place to be for a 5 hour trip; seats are comfy enough. Cruise control set to 75 and 42mpg for the entire journey is above my target in order to break even for the trip. I got home in the least stressed state for a long time, and that's got to be a good thing; but one thing is annoying the hell out of me, but it's not unique to the Karoq, as i had exact dame issue with the Octavia 2 years ago when I first picked it up. the head unit imports my phone contacts (from a different phone) and it won't recognise or import the telephone numbers. The Bolero in the Octy just randomly did it one day, and subsequently no issue with my work phone contacts either. I still can't get the unit in the Karoq to import from either phone, which is very frustrating, despite checking everything on both phones to ensure that the sync is allowed. 

The Octy vRS is a performance car whereas the karoq is an SUV, they cater for different market segments so its a completely unfair comparison.

 

I can honestly say that I have no chance 'outpacing' a vRS, GTI, SRI, BMW M class, Mercedes AMG etc......but I can keep up with other SUVs' including your Transit van so to speak.

 

Your statement that it's 'not that quick' is somewhat false.  If I accelerate too quickly I can easily spin my front wheels.

1 hour ago, Macdemon said:

 

I have the 1.5TSi and it's no slouch.   😉

 

That I don't doubt, but compared to a mapped Octavia vRS my comment still stands.

Ok, I can live with that.       and the vRS is a VERY nice variant I agree.

Well, a vrs is not a performance car it's a warm estate, but that's not just my description. Many owners of the karoq have issues of loss of traction with the DSG box, but that is no measure of sportiness, more a poor implementation of anti stall and DSG throttle response, combined  with very unsporty eco tyres. If you want to define sportiness, then simply measure the 30-70 acceleration times, and you'll soon see its pretty average. I think you'd need to drive a range of vehicles with a wider range of ability to able to judge its relative performance! 

Whilst not a 1.5 TSI, I have the 1.4 TSI which in terms of output is all but identical.

 

Fitted in a heavier car (plenty of space in the engine bay!) it drags me, my family, a full boot and roof box and our 1,500kg toilet-on-wheels rather well...

 

 

I guess the point I am trying to make here is we all have different expectations of the point at which a cars performance or power becomes acceptable, adequate or excessive.

Good grief, i hope thats an OEM Towbar with 13pin and trailer stability enabled.  The nose weight or loading of that car looks way off, especially being a single axle caravan, twin axle would be better for that length.

Edited 4 December, 20196 yr by delitfol

Twin axle adds significant weight, you might want to take the issue on the length vs. axle debate up with the caravan manufacturers.

 

As you can see from the image, my drive slopes down, the road slopes up, when on level ground the car doesn't squat, it is perfectly level.

 

My Kodiaq has an 80kg nose weight limit, and given that the gas bottles are stored over the axle and not in a front locker I am below the limit.

 

The MLPTM to car weight ratio is just under 85%, so bang-on.

 

And yes, it is an OEM towbar.

I'm just about to go from my 65 Plate Octi VRS TDI with DTUK CRD3+ box at 240bhp to a Karoq Sportline TDO 150 4x4, so my intention is to swap the DTUK box onto the Karoq.  Apparently it lifts to torque to around 420Nm and to 198bhp.  Has anyone done this and how is the Karoq doing on a DTUK box?

 

On the OCTY the CRD3+ DTUK box was fantastic.  There was a definite improvement in performance and on long runs driving steady often returned 57 to 59 ish MPG.  I'm interested to know how the Karoq fares with it fitted?

18 minutes ago, AndyGrob73 said:

I'm just about to go from my 65 Plate Octi VRS TDI with DTUK CRD3+ box at 240bhp to a Karoq Sportline TDO 150 4x4, so my intention is to swap the DTUK box onto the Karoq.  Apparently it lifts to torque to around 420Nm and to 198bhp.  Has anyone done this and how is the Karoq doing on a DTUK box?

 

On the OCTY the CRD3+ DTUK box was fantastic.  There was a definite improvement in performance and on long runs driving steady often returned 57 to 59 ish MPG.  I'm interested to know how the Karoq fares with it fitted?

I had a remap on my Octavia which was better than the DTUK box, more power and torque without the fear of limp mode or the injector or sensor warning lights coming on all the time. Are you sure the box is compatible with the engine in the Karoq? I don't know for sure, but suspect that the difference is more than just an ECU tweak between the two, probably different fuel pump, pressures etc, but worth checking out beforehand.

1500 miles update (thanks to the bad weather recently and SWR train strikes my mileage reduction plan hasn't been working...) and it's actually a great car to cover long motorway journeys in. The little 1.5 engine isn't too bad, providing you use the gearbox, and it can get a bit noisy when thrashed. Economy is acceptable for me too, I've seen 42 average door to door last trip to London, but one benefit is that it's not a car than encourages sporty aggressive driving; in fact the opposite. Once you've accepted that, and don't try to get to your destination before everyone else, then the stress of long journeys is vastly reduced. I still can't get the head unit to import the telephone numbers from my LG phone (it took ages before the Octy system did the same thing) which is really annoying, but apart from that it's pretty good, better than I thought it would be. 

 

This pretty much sums it up:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/skoda/skoda-karoq-first-drive-bland-brilliant-drive/

2 hours ago, stever750 said:

I had a remap on my Octavia which was better than the DTUK box, more power and torque without the fear of limp mode or the injector or sensor warning lights coming on all the time. Are you sure the box is compatible with the engine in the Karoq? I don't know for sure, but suspect that the difference is more than just an ECU tweak between the two, probably different fuel pump, pressures etc, but worth checking out beforehand.

To be fair, in 60k miles I didn't have a single problem with the Octy when using the TDUK box.  No flashing lights, no limp modes and it flew through MOT emission tests with it attached an turned on...so absolutely no complaints from me. 

When you say more BHP and more torque, how much difference are we talking about? 

I'm currently checking with DTUK to see if the CRD3+ box and harness is transferable or not.  I guess it should be, but no harm in checking.

 

Update for transferring the TDUK CR3+ box from the above Oct VRsTDI to the Karoq,  it shouldn't be a problem, to use the box and the harness.  It's just a matter of 'flashing' over the correct files at a very reasonable £10 charge from TDUK, and then fit the box and harness as normal and go!

Do TDUK have files to flash for a 1.5TSI EVO?

3 hours ago, Roottootemoot said:

Do TDUK have files to flash for a 1.5TSI EVO?

A box doesn't flash anything, it interrupts the sensor signal and transmits a fake data signal back to the ECU. There is a DTUK box available for the 1.5 engine

That was what i was asking, did they have a file to flash to the Box. Not does the box flash anything.

 

Good that they have a box then, anyone not worried about 1.5TSI EVO issues can fill their boots.

When I jump from my stage 2 petrol Vrs245 into the wife's Karoq 1.5TSi SEL it just feels slow. But compensates with a comfy ride even on the 18" alloys and the engine is very quiet and economy about 15% better.

18 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

When I jump from my stage 2 petrol Vrs245 into the wife's Karoq 1.5TSi SEL it just feels slow. But compensates with a comfy ride even on the 18" alloys and the engine is very quiet and economy about 15% better.

It is slow, but not as slow as you'd think. I find the crappy stereo a much more irritating feture tbh, the front door speaker installation and tuning is dire, one of the worst I've heard for a long time...

 

However, a good remap wouldn't go amiss, and extra 30 bhp / 50Nm Torque would help a lot, problem is it's a "new" engine so unproven....

1 hour ago, stever750 said:

It is slow, but not as slow as you'd think. I find the crappy stereo a much more irritating feture tbh, the front door speaker installation and tuning is dire, one of the worst I've heard for a long time...

 

However, a good remap wouldn't go amiss, and extra 30 bhp / 50Nm Torque would help a lot, problem is it's a "new" engine so unproven....

Our Karoq is 2 years old in January and a cheeky remap is still on the cards possibly in the Spring and you are right 180bhp and 300nm of torque will put it close to the 190bhp TSi engine for performance but with a much lower outlay. Shouldn't affect overall mpg much either.

I can't wait to see the remap 0-60 times before and after 

I miss my vrs  

and my S3 

 

 

The problem at the moment is there isn't anyone with a stage 1 map for the engine. I read an old post somewhere that even revo were still some way off developing one. You could fit a tuning box, but good luck with contorting your hands to fit / unfit it, plus you're never quite sure about wear to the pump, injectors etc. 

Edited 18 December, 20196 yr by stever750