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Skoda no longer do any Fabia's with 1.0  TSI other than 95 ps manuals,  or 60 ps 1.0 MPI's.    

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  • I cannot believe that in the real world there is a cam belt in a recent car that needs replacing within, let's say, 60k miles on the average used car. No doubt by saying this there will endless anecdo

  • Go on take the chance, the cambelt is a rubber/fibre construction so the rubber will and does harden over time (as do tyres) that is why they are given time/mile intervals, Skoda errs in the side of c

  • >have been a mechanic/mot tester for 24 years,   I was awarded my City & Guilds Full Technological Certificate in Motor Vehicle Engineering in 1984 and still work in the trade.  

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1 minute ago, KenONeill said:

@Emil @Ju1ian1001 @Snaefell - Well, FWIW the only hit I got in a search for "tri-oval" was for the race track configuration. Nothing about driven (or driving for that matter) pulleys in an engine design.

 

There may be better luck under powder metallurgy.  The tri-oval gears are manufactured via a sintering process where the metal is in the form of a number of powders, is forged into shape and then heated to form a durable solid.  GKN are a massive producer, 13million parts produced daily!

 

5 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

Skoda no longer do any Fabia's with 1.0  TSI other than 95 ps manuals,  or 60 ps 1.0 MPI's.    

When did they drop the 1.0 TSi in higher tune spec as when had the water pump done on my MK2 2010 octy the give a fabia with 1.0 dsg, was a over a year ago now though. Knew the MPI had been dropped.

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12 minutes ago, Snaefell said:

 

There may be better luck under powder metallurgy.  The tri-oval gears are manufactured via a sintering process where the metal is in the form of a number of powders, is forged into shape and then heated to form a durable solid.  GKN are a massive producer, 13million parts produced daily!

 

Or not. They've misused the words "driven and "drive" (your diagrams), and sintering has nothing specifically to do with geometry!

1 hour ago, Ju1ian1001 said:

MPI, MPI engine the polo was phased out quite late, the Polo was very basic on spec as well. All polo's are now TSi.

I think you will find the Polo is available with a MPI engine, albeit in 80ps guise.

VW have a lot of engines / drivetrains that will not be getting used by 2021 when the RDE2 figures will be needed.

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1 hour ago, Ju1ian1001 said:

Very common engine across the VAG and as it was me who took the belt off and refitted the belt i think i would know.

You wrote earlier:

 

"For people who don't know tri-oval is the shape of the teeth on the belt and pulleys." 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, KenONeill said:

@Emil @Ju1ian1001 @Snaefell - Well, FWIW the only hit I got in a search for "tri-oval" was for the race track configuration. Nothing about driven (or driving for that matter) pulleys in an engine design.

Maybe you should read this topic? 

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1 hour ago, Ju1ian1001 said:

MPI, MPI engine the polo was phased out quite late, the Polo was very basic on spec as well. All polo's are now TSi.

Do you really think that all MPI engines are the same? 

I bet you did. That's how good professionals are these days. 😒

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On 28/12/2019 at 11:23, freemansteve said:

Yes but I'm reacting to the OP with a 3 year old car and under 8K on the clock - I'm not suggesting ridiculous extremes!

 


Sorry Steve, but I beg to differ.

 

I have over 30 years experience of cars with cambelts, and chains (BMW120d the ‘d’ means destruction imminent!)

My best experience was with an Alfa 156 TwinSpark, mine didn’t break 🙂

Just for information, look at the cam belt changes on the below. over time they went from 6 years or 72,000 miles to 60,000 in 5 years and then to 36,000 miles and 3 years. The reason? Cam belts break.

the reason they do break is probably debatable but Dayco belts (As used by FCA) are of excellent quality 

 

https://www.alfaowner.com/threads/actual-timing-belt-change-interval-for-the-156.1106761/

After a towering 8k miles, people should spend their cash in whatever way makes them happy!

 

 

For the sake of £400 every 5 years, just change the belt.

 

Not many modern cars make it much beyond 15 years old before all servicing ceases, so you're looking at a maximum of two belt changes across the entire life of the car.

Is water pump and belt for it included for £400?

Peace of pi** to check cambelt. Unclip 2 pipes and remove a 30 torx. There is no change interval for Citigo on Skoda inspection list. Only need to inspect. They aren't bad to do especially the 1.0L. You do need the special tools though to lock the camshafts, crank and to tension the cambelt tensioner 

Now one never mention water pump

  • 2 weeks later...

Our Citigo (60 SE ASG is approaching 5 years old and has done 75k miles.

 

I have an email from Skoda UK saying that there is no mileage interval for changing the belt but a recommendation to have it done at 5 years.

 

As we all know, the belt is described in the UP, Citigo and Mini as a lifetime part.

 

I believe that one major element in cambelt wear is coolant leaking from the water pump when it shares the cambelt for drive.  Clearly this us not the case on the Citigo.

 

i don't have a great deal of confidence in the local Skoda dealer.

 

Head says change, heart says stick with lifetime.

 

John 

6 hours ago, jst_at_home said:

one major element in cambelt wear is coolant leaking from the water pump when it shares the cambelt for driv

You've got that backwards on the 1.8T, 1.9D and 2.0 engines, where typical water pump life is about 1.5 * cambelt change interval.

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We didn't have this with pushrod engines back in the day!

Leave the water pump unless it's leaking. You can get them to check the belt for cracks. 

5 hours ago, jst_at_home said:

We didn't have this with pushrod engines back in the day!

Nor did you often (if ever) get an engine that would run for 500_000 miles between overhauls.

5 hours ago, KenONeill said:

Nor did you often (if ever) get an engine that would run for 500_000 miles between overhauls.

 

Or that do (as mine) ~50mpg mostly in town.

I do recall re-gapping the tappets every 3000 miles, which is OK if you like that sort of fun.

 

Let's just recall this quote from the OP - "My 2016 Green tech is under 8,000 miles"

 

Probably time for a new gearbox and maybe a new bodyshell as well? :)    Or - time to send me several crates of Bollinger to stop that cash burning through a wallet?

 

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13 hours ago, freemansteve said:

several crates of Bollinger

s/Bollinger/"Islay whisky"

 

but otherwise yes! :)

  • 3 years later...

I have a 2015 Skoda Citigo SE 1.0L Petrol with 40,000 miles. The latest full service (at a regular i.e. non-Skoda or VW garage) raised the issue about timing belt replacement and I duly checked the forums, just as I did a couple of years back for our Octavia. I emailed Skoda Europe and Skoda UK the screenshot that I'd seen posted on a VW Up! forum which mentioned "visual inspection only after 240,000 km." Skoda Europe just referred me to Skoda UK, so I didn't get to compare their answers. Here's Skoda UK's Customer Service response from this morning:

 

I'd like to inform you that I've been in contact with our internal Technical Team regarding the timing belt service interval for your 2015 Skoda Citigo SE with the 1.0 L petrol engine. According to their response, the recommended timing belt replacement interval for this specific model is after 15 years, with no specific mileage stipulation.
 

That's reassured me that I can wait another few years until it needs changing.

Not even that is the same as VW are telling Up! owners....
They make it up as they go along....

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