Hi Guys just about to finish my PCH lease in 3months. I am considering and  preparing to get a new one. I would appreciate if you all could suggest what could be a best buy as in DSG or Manual. I have heard aparently DSG fuel consumtion is higher and gear box is not  very reliable for long term lease and could be expensive to repair. ( Not sure how much of it is true) Looking forward to hearing from you all and your personal experiences on DSG skoda Kodiaq 150PS SE-L

Edited 10 January, 20206 yr by Montozuma

How long is the lease period? If it is the usual 2 or 3 year PCH then the car will be under warranty so reliability shouldn't be a concern.

 

The DSG is the one to go for if under warranty. Even on a longer lease you can add the 4th and 5th year warranty at extra cost as long as it is done before the car is registered.

 

I'd never run one without some kind of warranty, it is very rare for DSG faults to be easy and/or cheap to fix.

 

As for fuel costs, if you're already paying close to £400 per month for the car, an extra £10 a week on fuel shouldn't overly influence your choice.

 

Edited 10 January, 20206 yr by silver1011

I agree.  I think you can discount the fuel cost.   I also agree that a DSG is not really worth the risk if not under warranty.

 

I went for the manual as I prefer the control, (and I  think in 5 years time manuals will be niche), but I can see the attraction of a DSG too.

 

I would say ignore the cost or potential cost (as in the great scheme of things it's not very much) and go with what you prefer.

Don’t expect a factory build to show up in 3 months. Try 6.

 

DSG is the only way in the 21st century. But I’m biased with 4 under our belts. Never had a problem.

 

Of course autos normally use more fuel than manuals, but consumption is driven primarily by your right foot. Your choice. It’s the least of my worries.

DSG's can easily use less fuel than manuals when the engines are identical. 

More gears, Coasting function available 

The WLTP / RDE / RDE2 might show a manual as using less but then that real world testing is not like driving them in the real world with passengers, 

luggage etc. 

1 hour ago, BoxerBoy said:

Don’t expect a factory build to show up in 3 months. Try 6.

 

DSG is the only way in the 21st century. But I’m biased with 4 under our belts. Never had a problem.

 

Of course autos normally use more fuel than manuals, but consumption is driven primarily by your right foot. Your choice. It’s the least of my worries.

I am not expecting a factory build to show up in 3 months. I'll defo have to extend my existing contract till the other one comes VW has given me that option. 

Automatics used to use more fuel because of the inefficiency in the torque convertor, because having few gears meant the car spent more time in a slightly inappropriate gear, and because slow reactions meant, again, that the car might be slightly longer in the wrong gear, or that a wasteful amount of throttle was needed to change down.

 

DSGs don’t have a torque convertor - the gears are as rigidly connected, and the clutch(es) as firmly engaged, as in a manual, so there are no losses through the stirring and slipping effect of the old torque convertor.  Modern electronics mean that gear changes are quick and much more accurately timed to when they’re needed. Most drivers of manuals probably don’t keep their gears as accurately aligned to the conditions as a DSG can.   I reckon that a really careful driver, concentrating very hard on the throttle and gears for the entire journey, might still drive a manual more economically than a DSG automatic - but the difference in mpg will be trivial.

 

Choose manual/DSG based on how you like to drive - not on mpg.

Edited 11 January, 20206 yr by DaveMiller

8 hours ago, DaveMiller said:

  I reckon that a really careful driver, concentrating very hard on the throttle and gears for the entire journey, might still drive a manual more economically than a DSG automatic - but the difference in mpg will be trivial.

 

I agree totally and think that less careful  (i.e. average) drivers would probably achieve better MPG with a DSG, especially in conditions that require many gear changes. On a light throttle, my TDI 150 works the gearbox very hard with short shifts to keep the revs low at all times.  Driving like that with a manual would be pretty tiresome. 

10 hours ago, Montozuma said:

I am not expecting a factory build to show up in 3 months. I'll defo have to extend my existing contract till the other one comes VW has given me that option. 

 

You might be surprised, Kodiaq's ordered during week 48 and 49 last year (last week of November, first week of December) are on customers drives in the UK as of last week.

 

I've never known Skoda's leadtimes to be so short. Perhaps their preparation for Brexit is finally paying dividends?

As a complete aside - I’d rather a “bad driver” carry me in an automatic car than a manual.

 

It removes one area where a bad driver can really “shine”.

My Quartz Grey 150 DSG 4x4 SEL is being built this week! Looking forward to delivery at the start of March (my choice at the end of my current lease. (bye bye my beloved Octavia Scout)