Possible alloy wheel issue?

[Rockinghorse]

Your best bet for longevity is to have them painted all over but make sure you break those hard edges 1st as that is the issue. I just won't buy a car with diamond cuts they just don't work.

[Rockinghorse]

Well done Merlinman you are a man after my own heart. 

[ry123]

Still waiting on a reply from Skoda UK dealer has sent off photos , they said as soon as Skoda UK get back they will let me know but he said he didn't even know if Skoda UK were open during this pandemic, i have 3 years left on my warranty so in no hurry  

[Ootohere]

The usual action after reporting to Dealership staff and their warranty manager or some employee taking pictures is then for the Area Warranty Manager to want to see the wheels in person.

They do not have try to put off those with a valid warranty claim.

But if a valid claim then let them, and be sure that when the car goes in to get new wheels with the old tyres changed that they can arrange collection, dropping off a courtesy car etc, or your time wasted taking the car in to be done.

Be sure the new fitted wheels are not damaged by some handless fitter at the Dealership or the nearby Tyre & Exhaust Centre they go to...

[silver1011]

On 28/05/2020 at 16:21, Rockinghorse said:

Your best bet for longevity is to have them painted all over but make sure you break those hard edges 1st as that is the issue. I just won't buy a car with diamond cuts they just don't work.

 

They do work, when done properly.

 

When done with little thought, or little care they will fail prematurely, much like most things.

 

If the join between paint and no-paint wasn't on the leading edge of the spokes they'd last much longer.

[J.R.]

So are they laquered all over and then masked & the relief edges painted?

 

Or are they masked, painted, demasked & then laquered all over?

 

Why is there not the same problem with the paint or powder coat thinning at the edges on non diamon cut wheels? Clearly there isn't but what is the difference?

 

Maybe you just cant see whats going on beneath the paint?

[silver1011]

Presumably painted all over, the spokes skimmed (polished) and then the whole wheel lacquerd.

 

A stone chips the laquer on a non-painted section, water gets under the lacquer, the alloy corrodes and/or lacquer turns milky i.e. white worm.

[Sanqhar]

Powder coating doesn't like sharp edges. This applies to steel as well as alloy and not just wheels. 

 

tom

[Ootohere]

^^^ So VW Group love banging their heads against a well for decade after decade.

No case of Vorsprung Durch Technik  or even 'Simply Clever' from the Car Manufacturers in Central Europe.  Just keep churning them out and fail to move things on and change the design and manufacturing and finishing process.

Edited 1 June, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[J.R.]

18 hours ago, silver1011 said:

Presumably painted all over, the spokes skimmed (polished) and then the whole wheel lacquerd.

 

A stone chips the laquer on a non-painted section, water gets under the lacquer, the alloy corrodes and/or lacquer turns milky i.e. white worm.

 

Thanks, now you mention it I have seen the process on the TV, possibly the program with the increasingly chubbier cheeky cockney chappie wearing a syrup.

[CJJE]

Having just ordered a Sportline with the 19" Vega wheels, I'm quite alloyed to find this thread. But as there is no alternative wheel for the Sportline I'll just have to see how they do. It's surprising really that they don't offer an all-black alternative wheel. I see in Ireland the Sportline comes on all-black 18" Mytikas wheels as standard, with the 19" Vega as an option.

 

Chris

[silver1011]

If they fail before the three year warranty runs out then you're unlucky, or spend quite a lot of your time on unmade or poorly surfaced roads.

 

Assuming they last 4 years before requiring a refurb then to keep them in a new condition they'll require a couple of refurbs throughout the cars whole life.

 

Not the end of the world, especially when even non polished / diamond cut alloys will likely require at least one refurb in a cars average life.

On 01/06/2020 at 10:04, Sanqhar said:

Powder coating doesn't like sharp edges. This applies to steel as well as alloy and not just wheels. 

 

tom

 

As far as I am aware all factory Skoda alloys are painted, not powder coated.

[Sanqhar]

On 31/05/2020 at 20:12, J.R. said:

So are they laquered all over and then masked & the relief edges painted?

 

Or are they masked, painted, demasked & then laquered all over?

 

Why is there not the same problem with the paint or powder coat thinning at the edges on non diamon cut wheels? Clearly there isn't but what is the difference?

 

Maybe you just cant see whats going on beneath the paint?

 

Powder coating was mentioned as above.  Non diamond cut wheels don’t have the sharp,edges. 

 

Tom

[Rockinghorse]

My Octavia had 80k on the clock and my silver painted alloy wheels were like new when I sold it.

[Guest]

On 02/06/2020 at 17:34, CJJE said:

Having just ordered a Sportline with the 19" Vega wheels, I'm quite alloyed to find this thread.

 

[ry123]

Still waiting for reply coming up for 2 weeks this week so I am going to give them a ring skoda uk must be open and replying to emails by now 

[DieselDriverVRS]

what a waste of time.  Dealer tells me "determined as outside influence" so nothing done about it......

Contacted Skoda UK - no help..... get a second dealer to take a look  .....unbelievable!🤬

[Ootohere]

At least they are predictable.   

It has been that way for over 10 years now.   Sometimes a Warranty Manager at another Dealership sees things another way and knows that the outside influence is VW Group, but there is a valid warranty claim and treat the customer fairly. 

[VAGCF]

Yes, that's true. I had a 58 Passat estate (one of three) where the alloys started to get white worm. When in for a service I asked the service guy to take a look at the alloys and never said why. When I picked up the car he said a new set of wheels had been ordered, no arguing etc. as it should be. 

 

Doubt that would be the case now not helped by the cost of dieselgate for VWG.

 

I have diamond cut alloys on my Audi TT bought new in 2014 and they are still perfect as are the wheel centres. Unlike on my Yeti where the centres were replaced under warranty but had started to corrode again when I sold it at 4 years old along with the start of white worm on a couple of the wheels.

 

Chris

[ry123]

My local dealership contacted me today after numerous calls not returned , i have got to take the car back in so they can measure the thickness of the paint on the wheels WTF what has that got to do with the lacquer blistering and in any case the part that has blistered is the machined face bit , considering the car has only done just over 9000 miles and just over a year old i think i have a valid claim , i think they are just dragging their heels over replacing them if they dont i will take the case up with the website resolver. 

Edited 12 June, 2020 by ry123

[Ootohere]

@ry123

Humour them.   A good Warranty Manager or Dealership Employee should check that the wheels are Factory Finish and not ones that were Refurbished.

 

*Like some dealerships have done with cars pre sale & the displaying of used cars.*  

They even get them in from having bought cars through BCA and other Auctions that Prepare cars bought and before being transported to Dealerships.

 

So if they know the spec of the original wheels lacquer then good.  Actually amazeballs.

 Easy to know, they just need to go and try various vehicles sitting about their property.

New & Nearly New / Cherished previously owned.

Some will even have corrosion....   Point that out to them.

 

PS

I would ask the person with their paint thickness measuring device what training he or she had in Paint and Coatings and are they qualified in some way other than in Sales, are they the dealerships warranty manager, are they maybe a paint sprayer or the likes.

 

Plenty of photo's need taking, and if a Specialist needs to visit to check the wheels after the photos and report are with Skoda UK they can arrange them visiting where you and the car is, or you can drop the car off to get the tyres changed over and the new wheels fitted.

Edited 12 June, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[ry123]

21 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@ry123

Humour them.   A good Warranty Manager or Dealership Employee should check that the wheels are Factory Finish and not ones that were Refurbished.

 

*Like some dealerships have done with cars pre sale & the displaying of used cars.*  

They even get them in from having bought cars through BCA and other Auctions that Prepare cars bought and before being transported to Dealerships.

 

So if they know the spec of the original wheels lacquer then good.  Actually amazeballs.

 Easy to know, they just need to go and try various vehicles sitting about their property.

New & Nearly New / Cherished previously owned.

Some will even have corrosion....   Point that out to them.

 

PS

I would ask the person with their paint thickness measuring device what training he or she had in Paint and Coatings and are they qualified in some way other than in Sales, are they the dealerships warranty manager, are they maybe a paint sprayer or the likes.

 

Plenty of photo's need taking, and if a Specialist needs to visit to check the wheels after the photos and report are with Skoda UK they can arrange them visiting where you and the car is, or you can drop the car off to get the tyres changed over and the new wheels fitted.

 

Edited 12 June, 2020 by ry123

[ry123]

I bought it new built to my spec and the wheels haven't been touched 😁

[Ootohere]

@ry123

You know that, and now i know that, but if you are claiming on a Warranty then the Warranty provider has the right to check you never had them refurbished since getting the car.

 

As you have the right to know the wheels are as they left the factory and did not need a refurb because of In Transit Damage, 

or there is not to Factory standard finish.

 

They are stringing it out, which is why i say 'Humour them'.   You can get the wheels replaced.  But they need to know their stuff if being smart!.