3 hours ago, Scot5 said:

 

Just to be clear, have you owned the car from new? ( i.e. how old is the clutch? ) 95k is impressive if it's the original clutch with that amount of power going thru it.

 

No not from new but bought from Skoda dealer with 65k on it. It has full skoda service history. I think it did monster miles in the first 3 years and then slowed down when I bought it a fee years back.

 

i’m surprised too. But when I got the revo done i opted for a delayed boost map. Still peaks but happens later. You don’t get to see this on their website but the people who installed it (VAS motion) were really helpful. 

Thought I’d update this thread.

 

i’m now on 110k and I can’t quite believe it but clutch feels absolutely fine. Im fact whole car still feels like new in terms handling/steering and brakes. 
 

its been to VAS motion in Guildford to do a full service and to check the stage 1 map was still there after I swapped the battery. 
 

truly amazed by the clutch though! 

Edited 27 June, 20214 yr by octaviavrs4

Further to my earlier post, the clutch on my present car has just started to slip in the high gears. Now I bought the car from Skoda when it was 9 months old with 3k miles on the clock. Had it mapped last year to 329 bhp stage one and the car is now on 26k miles. Over the last 1k miles it does slip when you accelerate in a high gear using the torque of the engine, which I hardly ever do by the way. I use the lower gears to gain speed and then there is no clutch slip at all. Might need the Sachs performance clutch myself if it gets any worse and then suffer the heavy clutch pedal. I have had many cars over the years, Civic Type R, where I bought the car on 40k miles and the clutch lasted 122k miles before it was replaced. A mapped Accord where the clutch was fine when I sold it on 107k miles. My last VRS Octavia which was mapped on 60k miles and it was fine when I sold it on 104k miles. It does seem by a few posts on the MK3 VRS Octavia, that the clutches are a bit weak. Especially when you hear from owners that even an unmapped Octavia's clutch does not last long. 

On 28/01/2020 at 12:44, Alex-W said:

How long are people getting out of a manual clutch on their vRS TSi manual?

 

Looks like mine is starting to slip.  Only had the car for 4k miles and it's on 33k.   Quite shocked it would go at that mileage to be honest.  Obviously I don't know how somebody drove it before me but even if they weren't great that's pretty quick.  Previous cars have gone at more like 80k-95k and this car did about 1k a month prior to my ownership which I'd have thought was not around town.

 

Also, any ideas how much I'm looking for a replacement?    

 

Figured getting a manual would be cheaper long term than a DSG, however not if the clutches don't last!

 

EXACTLY the same thing happened at exactly the same mileage on my previous TSI VRS230.  Its a known issue - the clutches wear out easily (and to confirm that, I suggest you look at Golf GTI of the same power/era). 

 

I also know the exact cost:

 

£950 from your local Skoda dealer - also includes a new Master Slave clutch cylinder.

Edited 29 June, 20214 yr by varaderoguy

17 minutes ago, varaderoguy said:

new Master clutch cylinder

!!? Why? A new integral slave I could understand when the bellhousing is open anyway, but a master?

Just now, KenONeill said:

!!? Why? A new integral slave I could understand when the bellhousing is open anyway, but a master?

Opps - you call me out @KenONeill - I did mean Slave Clutch Cylinder.  Applogies - original to be edited.

2 minutes ago, varaderoguy said:

Opps - you call me out @KenONeill - I did mean Slave Clutch Cylinder.  Applogies - original to be edited.

Kewel. To be entirely clear, I'd consider a new integral slave with a clutch to be "good preventive maintenance" like changing the water pump with the cam belt on cars where the water pump is driven off the cam belt is.

Once a clutch starts slipping then its toast, you might be able to drag a few more months out of it but if its going to slip under max torque acceleration or upshifting when overtaking the heat builds up instantly and you lose all drive.

 

The main culprit is the clutch bleed block AKA peak torque limiter, it slows down the clutch engagement to protect the transmission from drag starts especially on 4x4 versions, once a vehicle is remapped it revs higher and when using all the acceleration its natural to change gear quicker, the slow response and the turbo being inhibited until the clutch pedal has returned to its stop make it impossible for smooth fast gearchanges but far worse than that is the clutch slip that it induces even in first gear pulling across a junction sharply.

 

I replaced my clutch & DMF because of air being drawn into the concentric slave cylinder, the flywheel face was burned and the pressure plate dished resulting in the driven plate being worn like a wedge of cheese, I had previously modified the bleed block but put it all back to standard with the new clutch.

 

On test drives it was fine but the upshifts were very jerky because of the turbo lag caused by the damped clutch engagement, I did one very quick gearchange as one might do if you misjudged an overtake, ran out of revs in 3rd and upshifted in panic, I dont know why but that time there was full boost, maybe inertia, but the clutch engagement was damped, the clutch slipped under full torque and the revs shot up, I was convinced that I had shifted into neutral but it was the feckin peak torque limiter = we would rather you burn out your clutch which we can charge you for than break the transmission which would be a warranty repair.

 

My slippage was instantaneous and the heat soon dissipated, no problems with normal driving and shifting but I put my modified bleed block back on instantly, I dont intend repeating the experience but want to know that if I get caught out in a real situation I am not going to lose all drive again.

 

Do VAG sell the 170hp diesels with a manual 6 speed box or are they all DSG's? With the peak torque limiter its really a poor experience and a DSG would be far better if you are going to regularly use all the power.

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

Do VAG sell the 170hp diesels with a manual 6 speed box or are they all DSG's?

They used to for the VRS's (up to 2018/2019), but they are now as rare as hens teeth.  I know that on the Scout 184's, the last manual version of those cars was in 2016/17 (MY17)