Hi everyone.

 

Apologies if this has been answered in a separate thread. I have a 2002 Skoda Fabia SDI estate that's done about 153k miles. Recently it wouldn't start and I have had to roll start it on numerous occasions.

 

I have had a starter motor replacement diagnosis. I got one from my local scrappy but it was the wrong one. Please can anyone identify from the code number or point me in the right direction if this is the correct one? An album of photos coming up. Thanks everyone. The image at the bottom is the wrong one I returned to the scrappy it's a TDI one. Cheers. 

 

This is the Skoda part number for your starter...

 

I've just checked ECP prices and motors. I don't know how much you paid the scrappie, but for circa £60 you could have a new motor ( Or if you get one from Scrappie, then I've noted from ECP data , that the part numbers on there for 1.4TDI is same as for 02 SDI) . But is it the starter motor, as there's a well documented fault on herE about the solenoid coil wire breaking. Or it could be the problem I suspect I have ( but it'll wait for warmer days ) of the solenoid sticking and all you hear is a click as solenoid tries to engage. I use the old fashioned tap on solenoid with hammer.

I dont know about Fabia starters as I've not tried working on them, but it used to be easy to change brushes ( there's a minimum length) , get into the solenoid and clean the contact plate ( to remove voltage drop across the contacts - 0.5 v is max) and clean out the clutch on pr engage starters.

Or alternatively a lot cheaper to find an overhaul place and have the old one sorted.

Just be totally sure the starter is at fault. They rarely go wrong. The fault is normally a break in the single wire that goes down to the starter solenoid. 

Steve- I've seen various faults on starters over my years on road. Skoda one seems to be the solenoid wire, but I've seen cases where the solenoid contacts are dirty and in cold weather it's enough to drop the volts to the starter so that the motor fails to get enough volts to turn. Other ones have been that the clutch is dirty and  fails to pull starter into flywheel .

Hi guys.

 

Thanks for your replies. I have no experience with cars so forgive my naivety I have not a clue what you are talking about. Is fixing this wire thingy easy to do? I paid the scrappie £25. My mechanic has assured me it is the starter motor but now I am not so sure. Confused!

When you turn the key to crank the engine over with the starter motor, does it turn over but not start, or does nothing at all happen?

When I put the key in and turn it, it tries to start and a few lights come on. I hear some clicks. I made a video which I will post here.

 

Thanks

Edited 15 March, 20206 yr by Faz02

It's too big to add. 

9 minutes ago, Faz02 said:

It's too big to add. 

upload the video to YouTube and paste the link to the clip on here 👍

Cheers mate. Is this OK?

I don't hear any engine movement, so it could well be the wire mentioned by @StevesTruck.

2 hours ago, Faz02 said:

When I put the key in and turn it, it tries to start and a few lights come on. I hear some clicks.

 

^^^This sounds like low battery charge to me.........

 

I haven't listened to your video as Wino has that covered......

The wire to check connects here:

 

Hi everyone thanks for your replies. I've rang the dealership and they've said the above part number is wrong for my 02 Skoda. They have said its 02T911023H. Any ideas apart from a brand new one at £80? I'm starting to think I won't find a second hand one. Thanks..

Edited 16 March, 20206 yr by Faz02

Have you checked the wire?

A brand new starter motor won't help at all if the solenoid isn't getting energised because the wire is breaking/broken.  It's an extremely common fault, especially on the diesel engines due to higher vibration levels.

 

That's the same part number that you were told was correct earlier. 

 

On 14/03/2020 at 19:24, TMB said:

This is the Skoda part number for your starter...

 

 

Hi. Yes I got tango and hotel mixed up.  I have had the wire checked and my mechanic said its OK. I have had a look at this video. I am so confused right now. I rang another scrapyard and she said they are the same as golf starters depending on the number pins or something, only way to know is if I bring her the old one.  I might just leave it for now as its giving me a headache. 

 

29 minutes ago, Faz02 said:

I have had the wire checked and my mechanic said its OK

Check it yourself; might save you a lot of trouble and expense, mechanics don't always offer the cheapest solutions unless they are also friends. 

Not sure what access is like on a 1.9 SDI, but I expect there's an angle where you, or a camera phone, can get a view of it with minimal disassembly. Most likely problem area is right next to where the wire goes into the connector. 

If you're not sure where to look,  get a picture of the engine bay from above, towards the front on the right hand side of the engine (as viewed from in front of the car looking into the engine bay), we may be able to help you find it. From google images, it looks like there's an intake air hose just above the region you should be looking down, in between engine cover and battery box.  May be very easy to disconnect this to move it aside temporarily?

 

 

If any other readers with an ASY-code (1.9SDI) engine can describe visibility of theirs, ideally with a photo, that would be awesome.

 

A starter with the part number 02T911023H is the same item whatever vehicle it has come from.

Edited 16 March, 20206 yr by Wino

Thanks Wino. Appreciate your help. I'll pop the hood take a picture and post it here shortly. Cheers.

Yes and the donor car is a 2005 plate not sure if that makes a difference. Dealership guy seemed pretty confident it's the wrong part for my car. Now I can't upload pictures. Too big. 

 

Thanks 

3 minutes ago, Faz02 said:

Yes and the donor car is a 2005 plate not sure if that makes a difference. Dealership guy seemed pretty confident it's the wrong part for my car. Now I can't upload pictures. Too big. 

 

Thanks 

 

Sorry if you are replying to me. I deleted my previous post as got mixed up.

Edited 16 March, 20206 yr by TMB

1 hour ago, Faz02 said:

. I rang another scrapyard and she said they are the same as golf starters depending on the number pins or something, only way to know is if I bring her the old one. 

 

Or they check the part number.............It's alright for them if you turn up only to find they do not have the correct one. They haven't lost anything.....

34 minutes ago, TMB said:

 

Sorry if you are replying to me. I deleted my previous post as got mixed up.

Yes I was its Ok thanks for replying. 

1 hour ago, Wino said:

Check it yourself; might save you a lot of trouble and expense, mechanics don't always offer the cheapest solutions unless they are also friends. 

Not sure what access is like on a 1.9 SDI, but I expect there's an angle where you, or a camera phone, can get a view of it with minimal disassembly. Most likely problem area is right next to where the wire goes into the connector. 

If you're not sure where to look,  get a picture of the engine bay from above, towards the front on the right hand side of the engine (as viewed from in front of the car looking into the engine bay), we may be able to help you find it. From google images, it looks like there's an intake air hose just above the region you should be looking down, in between engine cover and battery box.  May be very easy to disconnect this to move it aside temporarily?

 

 

If any other readers with an ASY-code (1.9SDI) engine can describe visibility of theirs, ideally with a photo, that would be awesome.

 

A starter with the part number 02T911023H is the same item whatever vehicle it has come from.

I don't want to break anything. I can take the covers off but that's about it.

Hi. I am getting this message but the part number matches up. The last two digits cannot be seen because of rust, I am assured that it is the same part as I have sent pictures. Any advice? Should I check the wire first again?