karoq 190tsi 4x4 sportline

[alan29jarvis]

Due to covid19 my new car has not been driven for 21 days

The battery is absolutely flat.

I have followed the manual,ie used the keyto get in

and followed the instructions, but to no avail.

Any suggestions?🤨

 

 

[patrolman]

Have you charged the vehicle battery

[alan29jarvis]

13 minutes ago, patrolman said:

Have you charged the vehicle battery

No the car has done 3500 miles since setember!

[BoxerBoy]

Like most machines - “Use It, Or Lose It”
 

Only 2 weeks stationary here.  Will be spinning it round the block soon.

[Delanor]

• If the Karoq is not going to  be regularly driven then you need to leave it connected to a decent intelligent charger or at least every 2 weeks charge it fully, if you cannot use a charger don`t leave it idling to charge it and don`t try a quick drive round the block to charge it that will not be enough  it needs to be driven a distance.

Edited 6 April, 2020 by Delanor

[croquemonsieur]

A neighbour has been spending fairly long periods abroad until the corona outbreak and to keep his 5 year old Fiesta battery charged at home, he has a small solar charger that he fixes to the driver's car headrest.  I only just discovered this, as he had the AA round 2-3 weeks ago - battery turned out to be totally gone.  I wondered whether the battery might have been damaged by overcharging, but in my experience, car batteries usually last about 5 years and then suddenlty die with very little warning, so maybe not.  His car is pre stop/start and the sophisticated battery charging systems of our modern cars.

 

I'm thinking of getting one of these chargers myself.  Selected quickly from first Amazon page that came up with next to no research, here's a couple of examples

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-Waterproof-Maintainer-Amorphous-Motorcycle/dp/B07F9RNM1D/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=solar+car+battery+chargers&qid=1586239368&sr=8-5      a 3.3 watt model  OR there's this super powerful 18 watt one

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/betop-camp-Cigarette-Maintainer-Automobile-Motorcycle/dp/B07G7QD8CF/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&keywords=solar+car+battery+chargers&qid=1586240081&sr=8-18    lots more on Amazon

 

Its been said here that charging is OK through the cigarette lighter on Karoq, as this bypasses the Canbus, whatever that is - electrickery not my strong point.  Don't know whether intelligent solar chargers are available.

 

The neighbour charges through a connection point somewhere down by the pedals, but maybe that's necessary with the Fiesta electrical set-up.  Isn't the connector down there on Karoq something to do with getting access to the car's computerized systems, VCDS & all that?  Is anyone using solar charger's yet, if so what sort of wattage?

[BigEjit]

8 hours ago, alan29jarvis said:

No the car has done 3500 miles since setember!

There’s not a lot of miles there! It’s going to need a bit more than a run round the block. 2 choices, recharge it or replace it.

Recharging. 

Get hold of a decent charger like a Ctek 3.8 or Ctek MXS 5.0 and connect it up as described in the vehicle manual. It will need up to 24 hrs charge time to recover the battery.

The battery cover will state AGM or EFB on the label. A decent charger like the Ctek will give you the option of programs for these two types of battery.

 

An AGM will take deep discharge events like this very well and recover without much long lasting damage. EFB is not as robust so might need changing in the future once it’s been recovered.
 

 

Edited 7 April, 2020 by BigEjit

[patrolman]

9 hours ago, alan29jarvis said:

No the car has done 3500 miles since setember!

To be honest get Skoda assist out  to get it running and then get your self a battery maintainer , the patrol may well have a branded one on his van you can purchase or Amazon is your friend !

[agedbriar]

When charging the battery, mind where you connect the negative clamp!

 

[Sanqhar]

20 hours ago, agedbriar said:

When charging the battery, mind where you connect the negative clamp!

 

 

Interesting, does anyone know the logic behind this?

 

Also, this refers to jump starting, does it also apply to how to connect a battery charger?

 

tom 

Edited 8 April, 2020 by Sanqhar

[Kenny R]

28 minutes ago, Sanqhar said:

 

Interesting, does anyone know the logic behind this?

 

Also, this refers to jump starting, does it also apply to how to connect a battery charger?

 

tom 

The BMS is connected to the negative terminal and you risk damaging it if you connect a charger or jump start using this terminal. 

As to charging you connect +ve lead to +ve battery terminal and -ve lead to earth point on the bulkhead.

[Sanqhar]

Sorry....BMS?

 

tom

[agedbriar]

Battery Monitoring System

[Delanor]

A Battery capacity to hold a charge reduces with age the older the battery the shorter time it can be left before needing a charge to full capacity - buy a plug in voltmeter for the cigar lighter/12 volt socket they are quite cheap and it will tell you when the voltage has dropped to a level that needs a charge. 

[alan29jarvis]

Best suggestion yet thank you!

[alan29jarvis]

Thank you all for posting ,

Problem now solved¬

 

[Sanqhar]

6 hours ago, agedbriar said:

Battery Monitoring System

Thanks

 

tom

[croquemonsieur]

Following BigEjit's message, I looked at the CTEK battery charger website   https://www.ctek.com/products?category=313f09f37f674d3794c5bb684196d572     and requested more information.....

"Looking at the range of chargers on your site, only the CT5 start/stop mentions compatibility with EFB batteries.  This seems to be a basic model, so can you confirm that all the other models with more battery maintenance and all weather facilities, are still compatible with EFBs?  Also, what is the difference between the 5.0 and 3.8 ranges, please?"

CTEK nice response.....

"MXS 5.0 and CT5 START/STOP will both do the job.  In my opinion, the biggest different is that MXS 5.0 has 8 different charging options and CT5 START/STOP has only one.  CT5 START/STOP is a 3.8 A charger for all kind of lead/acid batteries from 14Ah up to 85Ah and for long time care you can use it for even bigger batteries.  It is optimized for batteries that are used in START/STOP cars, but as mentioned, it can be used on regular lead/acid batteries as well.  It is easy to use, just plug it on.   MXS 5.0 is a 5A charger for all kind lead/acid batteries from 1.2 up too 100Ah and likewise, for long time care you can even use it for bigger batteries.  You need to choose small/big battery and what charging program to use.  There is also a RECOND program, which can revive stratified wet batteries.   It is our most versatile charger.  Now you choose. Both will do the job. 

Our accessory CTEK Cig-Plug (56-263) fits both 12 millimeter and 21 millimeter outlets and has a maze-like strain relief for the user’s safety. It has a 40 cm cable.       Stay safe,    Med vänliga hälsningar,    Y faithfully,      Teresa"

I asked furter.......

"Does the MXS 5.0 -  does it have a program specifically for EFB batteries, like the 59Ah Varta in my car?"

Teresa came back.....

"EFB batteries can be charged as normal "wet" batteries.  Only if the battery manufacturer recommends something else, follow their advice.  If you cannot find any information regarding that, you ALWAYS can use 14.4V charging, the "normal" program. 

So, if you choose MXS 5.0 use "car" mode on EFB battery."

 

The MXS 5.0 seems as cheap as any on Amazon, so will likely go for that & it compensates for ambient temperature.   Teresa didn't seem to want to talk about the 3.8 so may not be current, even though the MXS 3.8 is still on the website.  CTEK do a charger specifically for Lithiums, but it doesn't look like the MXS 5.0 is suitable.  Just thinking of  the future - next car, whenever that is, will likely be a Hybrid. 

 

 

[croquemonsieur]

FWIW, 'Which' link in an Email yesterday, on maintaining car in lLockdown - Brakes and Battery Section....

 

 

If left for a while, a car’s brake discs can begin to corrode.  This can eventually lead to the brakes seizing entirely, which will require a mechanic’s attention to put right.  To prevent this from happening, roll your car back and forth a few metres every so often if safe to do so.  This will also help prevent your tyres from developing flat spots.  Corrosion of brake discs can also cause the handbrake to stick.  If you’ve left your car on level ground in a private area and can be certain it won’t roll, you may want to avoid using the handbrake.  This can cause the handbrake to stick, rendering the car immobile.  Leaving the car in gear can help prevent it moving.  Don’t use this tactic if you’re parked on a public road where there’s the risk of other vehicles knocking you, or if you’re parked on a slope.

 

It’s also important to keep your battery maintained.  Even when the car’s switched off, electrical items running in the background (such as security devices) can drain the battery.

 

###    If your car is privately parked, you may want to invest in a mains-powered battery maintainer or trickle charger, which will keep it in tip-top condition.
###    If you can’t realistically run a lead to your car, simply start it up once a week and let it run for around 15 minutes.  Not only will this give the battery time to increase its charge, but will also circulate oil and fuel around the engine, which can prevent engine flooding in petrol cars.
###    While the car is running, turn the air conditioning on.  This will help maintain the seals in the air conditioning system and reduce the chance of mould developing in your car’s air circulation system.
###    Avoid turning your car on and off again in quick succession.  The starter motor requires battery power each time, which won’t be replenished unless the battery is given time to charge.  Never leave your car unattended when it’s switched on.

Video: how to keep your car running in lockdown

Watch our video for our top tips on reducing the strain on your car’s battery. 

 

 

Unsure if leaving car idling 15mins charges the battery but presumably they know what they're talking about.  Hadn't thought about the aircon - I've been aware of advice to generally keep it switched on when driving.

 

 

Full article......      https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/04/coronavirus-how-to-maintain-your-car-during-lockdown/?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=3972080-C_WS_EM_100420