Looking through the paper work from Skoda I found that the car was recalled back to Skoda in July/Aug 2018 for 97CU which is Energy Management of Vehicle Battery. Could this be the problem with my Car? Also found that the recall was for the: On the affected vehicles the onboard supply control unit must be reprogrammed (see criterions)."

Edited 29 December, 20214 yr by Mikerp

Wife just brought the car home the Engine light came on just before getting home. I turned the engine on and off but it still there. I'll Phone Skoda tomorrow

13 hours ago, roottoot said:

Was the DSG Service done under the Service Plan so at no extra cost to you?

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Where the Spark Plugs replaced at that service as part of the Service Plan?

 

This below does not apply to the DQ200 DSG @ 40,000 miles / 4 years as far as an Oil change.  

 

Deal with the Dealer Principal only not the Service Manager or Workshop Manager and ask why they serviced your DSG.

 

 

 

Just rechecked and found they carried out a "DSG Transmission oil service including DSG Filter and seal. Replenish to correct level using special tool" On 22/07/21. Mileage was 44,617.

 

Says on the Skoda servicing that this should be carried out at 40,000 miles

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by Mikerp

I would be wanting to know if there was some fault or reason that they did something not required on a DQ200 7 speed Twin Dry Clutch DSG.

No harm doing it, but then no reason to do it either. 

 

Skoda service says it should be carried out on 6 or 7 speed wet Clutch DSG's @ 40,000 miles,  but not clearly on that Blue Service Guide.

 

So not on 7 Speed Twin Dry Clutch DSG's which have never had a Schedule or guidelines for changing either of the 2 oils, 

other than when there was a World Wide recall in 2012 which excluded Europe, but then there was a Service Campaign in 2014 to change the oil from Synthetic to mineral and do a software update on some from 2009-2012.

 

So no Oil Change requirements since then.     You would expect Skoda Main Dealer Technicians to know that.  

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by roottoot

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Were the spark plugs replaced at the Service or previous to that one?

 

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Plenty owners of Mk3 Fabia with DSG's,

 

Have any members here with a DQ200 DSG in a Fabia had an Oil Change carried out on their cars? 

 

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This is a whole different issue. 

 Here the member did their own oil change. Both Oils.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/439395-the-story-of-the-famous-dq200-clutch-slip/page/15

 

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by roottoot

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Took the car to Skoda this morning because of the engine light being on last night. Although they didn't do a full diagnostic check because they didn't have the room to fit me in, they took it into the workshop. They came back and said it has 2 wiring faults. 1. in the loom don't remember which but the 2nd wiring fault was between the connector to Coil D (the coil I had replaced) and the Control Unit. Booked in for 4th Jan for full Diagnosis and repair.

 

Yes all 4 plugs were changed on 22nd July 2021.

 

Half a mile from home this morning coming back from the garage the EPC light came on, the car started to Judder and the engine light flashed for about 10 seconds and then went out. Managed to get the car home. Turned it off and back on and the EPC went out. Contacted Skoda to see if I can get it in before the 4th Jan, Just waiting for a reply.

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by Mikerp

1 hour ago, Mikerp said:

Although they didn't do a full diagnostic check because they didn't have the room to fit me in, they took it into the workshop. They came back and said it has 2 wiring faults. 1. in the loom don't remember which but the 2nd wiring fault was between the connector to Coil D (the coil I had replaced) and the Control Unit.

Well is this strange, even without doing a full diagnostics they found two wiring faults one before the coil they that (probably?) didn't need to be replaced.

 

Surely all they've done there is what they should have done first time - they will say they couldn't because you cleared the codes and didn't leave the car with them for days for the light to come back on - but I'd put a bet if we'd put my neighbour's scan tool on with three unqualified and untrained people just using that scan tool we could have probably come to the same conclusion, on the coil at least.  I'm sure I suggested as much previously for the coil at least and mentioned plugs/connectors/wires (which can show  communication error codes sometimes (on the higher level(?)) scan tools).

 

Perhaps this time they actually plugged in the correct level of scan tool - I'd love to see what these Dealerships actually use, they're fast enough to send a free video of a free health check where they find lots of potential work on the vehicle yet seem unable to send a video of a Technician using one of the high level Dealership grade scan tools, why would that be?  You'd think they'd be boastful about using these expensive machines on customers vehicles.

 

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by nta16
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Skoda did not change the coil that was another garage. Anyway it's going in on the 4th

3 minutes ago, Mikerp said:

Skoda did not change the coil that was another garage. Anyway it's going in on the 4th

Apologises to the Dealership for coil comment but the rest stands.

 

I hope it's all sorted when you collect it on the 4th and its the end of it.

 

Going in on the 4th. Also found out that they did a service on my gearbox at 40.000 and it didn't need it for my type of box

2 hours ago, roottoot said:

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Were the spark plugs replaced at the Service or previous to that one?

 

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Plenty owners of Mk3 Fabia with DSG's,

 

Have any members here with a DQ200 DSG in a Fabia had an Oil Change carried out on their cars? 

 

......................................................

This is a whole different issue. 

 Here the member did their own oil change. Both Oils.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/439395-the-story-of-the-famous-dq200-clutch-slip/page/15

 Yes the spark plugs were changed 22nd July 21. The technician said they shouldn't have done a service on the gearbox. The After sales manager is dealing with it.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Mikerp said:

Yes the spark plugs were changed 22nd July 21. The technician said they shouldn't have done a service on the gearbox. The After sales manager is dealing with it.

You might find it was a error in the recording of work done and the box wasn't touched at all, a transfer of tickbox information perhaps.  We had tyres gain rubber between visits according to the ticksheets.

 

What does EPC actually mean in the context of these dashboard warning lights?

 

Everybody bandies the term around but is it even the correct one?  I am guilty of using the term MIL light (multi function indicator) for "a warning light"

 

Is there a specific dashboard light that VAG call EPC, what is its symbol and what does it signify?

Electronic Power Control, I think.

And MIL is Malfunction Indicator Lamp.

EPC is spelled out in capital letters on cars with that warning light.

 

Here's a post with an extract from an owners manual:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/150495-epc-warning-light/?do=findComment&comment=1874575

 

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by Wino

Then there is also what people call 'The engine light'   as in the engine light came on.

The one that is the shape of an engine.

 

Pic from my Mk2 Fabia.

Top is the Light Check at start up.

The bottom is engine light staying on 'Exhaust Emissions',   There was a fault.   With Misfires or the Water pump / Super charger magnetic clutch 

one or other of both the EPC & the Engine Light might come on. 

 

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by roottoot

Indeed, also mentioned in that link above;  Skoda refer to it as "Control system for exhaust gases"

 

Screenshot from a mk2 Fabia Owners Manual:

 

 

Edited 30 December, 20214 yr by Wino

EPC on the Mk3 Fabia is another VW computer program speak for PANIC! - You the driver have broken the vehicle and you must seek help from a specialist garage. 

I just checked the warning lights that came up on self check, difficult because some of them go out very quickly, my monocular vision probably doesnt help and I had to do it a dozen times to register all the lights on both instruments.

 

I dont have an EPC light and it also confirmed that the oil pressure/level light does not come on during the self check.

 

Then I found that by shining a torch I could see the silhouettes of all the possible warning lights, there was an oil can one but it definitely does not illuminate on self test, there were others as well which are not relevant to my vehicle like hill descent and what looked to be side radar.

 

Could my oil warnings and perhaps an EPC warning if it exists come through on the Maxidot display?

 

I replaced 3 litres of tap water with G12 coolant yesterday, I did it with the engine running by using an oil change syringe on the pipe to the header vessel to remove the fluid refilling the header when it was empty, I expected to hear a Bing-Bong warning for low coolant but I didn't & I didn't see a warning light but by then had topped up.

 

It would be nice to know that these systems actually work before needing them, I think I will disconnect the coolant level sensor, it wont prove it works but will show the circuit is active, I guess I could also use VCDS to operate the warning lights through output tests.

@J.R.

If it is a Euro5 2.0TDI then it is rather different from a Euro5 or 6  TSI.

 

There is no EPC that i remember and as for the Yellow or Red Oil can llights they do not come up on the Pre Flight check.

Then on MK'2's and maybe mk3's or some of them you get a Low Oil or Low Oil Pressure light as well as a Message on the Maxidot.

Pre flight check, - I like that!!!

 

I used VCDS and when I tried the output tests for all the things that didn't light up on the Pre Flight Check I got a not available message for all of them, might have been not supported.

 

The oil pressure and oil level sensing I know is monitored as I could view the current values, I have to assume that any warning will come up on the Maxidot, with regard to low washer fluid level I dont know whether it has it and will warn me on the Maxidot or has no sensor fitted, not that I really care but I should have confidence that the oil warning system will indeed warn me.

 

Too much dirty grovelling around to remove the sensor, I removed the coolant level sensor and nothing happened but later found it was because the bonnet was open, it brought up the light within the fuel level guage but again that is one that does not light up in the Pre Flight Check.

You can get the Yellow Low Oil light or Low Oil Level message, open the bonnet, do nothing, close the bonnet and the Light / Message will go out for 100 km and the Oil Level is still low.

Not 'Simply Clever'  IMO.

Car has been with the Skoda garage for 2 days, just got back to me saying , "They have completed wiring checks and diagnosis and the outcome is indicating there maybe a fault with the engine control unit however we are not certain. We are continuing to test the vehicle as it is not faulting at all. We will continue to investigate/road test the vehicle and see if we can re-create the issue. We don't want to commit to the outcome yet as the unit is expensive" They are keeping it another day.

Wonder if it is connected to the CU97 recall in 2018

Just got the car back after 3 days. It wasn't the ECU. The EPC light was coming on because when they checked the coding . At first inspection the battery looked like it was coded fine but when we drilled down and looked at the data behind the coding it turned out the wrong battery specs had been entered so the car thought it had a bigger battery than it did thus wouldn't allow the start stop to work as it always thought the battery required a charge. 

After 3 days they cannot find anything wrong with Coil4 I will just have to monitor.

They didn't charge me a penny

Edited 6 January, 20224 yr by Mikerp
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