https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-53176091

 

I guess my day has been relatively OK after all...

Mechanical failure.

 

Makes a change I suppose...............

13 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Mechanical failure.

 

Makes a change I suppose...............

only had it 20mins... 

given how empty the fuel tank has been on pick up of every car car ive bought (unless ive swindled a full tank into the deal) i wonder if the "mechanical Failure" was it ran out of fuel . 

Poor bugger, it's being spread around he lost control not that he broke down and was thumped by someone not looking where they were going.

 

Is that two roll over bars that have punched up through the roof?

Edited 27 June, 20205 yr by Aspman

1 hour ago, Aspman said:

 

Is that two roll over bars that have punched up through the roof?

 

surely looks tgat way yeah, but (and i could be wrong) it looks like they deploy on a launcher, like an airbag?? they are way too high up for them to have been at that height all the time and had the roof pushed down through them if you get me?

 

may need to google that later.

plus, in his defence, depending on what the failure was he may have lost control, if it wasnt just out of fuel...

Possible PEBCAC?

 

(Problem Exists Between Chair And Car)

 

with the driver also suffering an involuntary 

"Massive Emergency Reactionary Duodenal Evacuation" or "MERDE Response"..

 

oh yeah, had a google, i didnt realise the auto launching roll over bars are rudiculously common fair.. 

Edited 27 June, 20205 yr by mac11irl

Two points either the van driver was speeding or driving without due care and attention as hitting a stationary vehicle should not be possible if the driver was paying attention and able to brake and stop in the distance they can see in front so hard to see how the Police can describe the van driver as an innocent party. Take 2 to have an accident. Van driver should have hit the hazard button and realised to brake early enough to avoid a collision.

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

Two points either the van driver was speeding or driving without due care and attention as hitting a stationary vehicle should not be possible if the driver was paying attention and able to brake and stop in the distance they can see in front so hard to see how the Police can describe the van driver as an innocent party. Take 2 to have an accident. Van driver should have hit the hazard button and realised to brake early enough to avoid a collision.

 

Without examining the scene, and the Lamborghini, to find the cause of its stopping, that's a sweeping statement to make.

Edited 27 June, 20205 yr by P6bJOHN

55 minutes ago, P6bJOHN said:

 

Without examining the scene, and the Lamborghini, to find the cause of its stopping, that's a sweeping statement to make.

If you stopped at a red traffic light and someone crashed into the back of you pretty sure you would enquire why they hadn't stopped in time.

13 hours ago, Aspman said:

Is that two roll over bars that have punched up through the roof?

 

It looks like the horizontal section has broken off yet the vehicle shows no signs of having rolled over, perhaps it went up on 2 wheels explaining the deployment but what cut the horizontal part off? Cant have been the fire brigade as the soft-top is untouched, the ends look far too sharp for them to be 2 seperate uprights.

 

Scary if they deployed simply from a rear impact, My Yeti deployed all the airbags except the roll over curtain ones with the tiniest of shunts that simply scratched the paint on the bumper, its back on the car untouched except for a compound & polish, I can see an accidental deployment in a workshop giving a mechanic a Mike Tyson uppercut.

@J.R.

weirdly it is just 2 separate uprights...

 

lambo roll over struts above, from someone having an issue courtesy of my earlier google search. 

theres nothing joining them. different manufacturers have different versions, some build them into rear seat head rests. as for deployment id say they get fired by the airbag sensors, as a fail safe, not just on roll over

My eyes are rubbish and expanding the view doesnt help but I reckon the black that I could see at the top of the struts on the car in the accident are the plastic trim covers that would hide the struts in the undeployed position.

 

You are probably right regarding the deployment parameters, certainly this accident looks that way, bloody dangerous things to have around cocked & ready to deploy.

 

I usually s****** at the advice to disconnect the battery before working on any airbag component or system, I would be wary around those puppies though.

17 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

If you stopped at a red traffic light and someone crashed into the back of you pretty sure you would enquire why they hadn't stopped in time.

 

I didn't see any other photos than the ones posted, I didn't see any red lights, nor did I see any evidence that they were in the same lane at the start of the incident. Mechanical failure could cause sudden lane 2 to lane 3 deviation, or any manner of vehicle movement. You make the assumption that the Lamborghini started the incident in lane 3 and just stopped. What evidence do you have that you have not disclosed to reach this conclusion?

14 minutes ago, P6bJOHN said:

 

I didn't see any other photos than the ones posted, I didn't see any red lights, nor did I see any evidence that they were in the same lane at the start of the incident. Mechanical failure could cause sudden lane 2 to lane 3 deviation, or any manner of vehicle movement. You make the assumption that the Lamborghini started the incident in lane 3 and just stopped. What evidence do you have that you have not disclosed to reach this conclusion?

Regardless of what lane the Lambo ended up to remove the driver side rear wheel must have been a significant impact which suggests the van was moving quite a bit faster than the Lambo at the moment of impact. Never lost a wheel off a car in any impact in 37 years driving.

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

Regardless of what lane the Lambo ended up to remove the driver side rear wheel must have been a significant impact which suggests the van was moving quite a bit faster than the Lambo at the moment of impact. Never lost a wheel off a car in any impact in 37 years driving.

 

And have you ever investigated any collisions? Did the wheel come off during, or prior to the impact? Hence my mention of evidence to back up an assumption. Let the Police do their thing and wait for the result.

 

there are so many different ways the rear of the car got smooshed like that. so unless you have seen dashcam footage of the incident or ideally over head drone footage, noone is going to know how it happened until those involved's statemwnt are investigated.

"ive never lost a wheel in a crash" as evidence of anything is utter codswollop. 

3 hours ago, mac11irl said:

dashcam footage

 

You would need ar$ecam footage in this case, would you not? 

 

10 minutes ago, StickyMicky said:

 

You would need ar$ecam footage in this case, would you not? 

 

Maybe not from the van😂😂