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9 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

the right front wheel is hotter than the left rim

 

once front right tire were boiled to 60°c by engine while slow move, 1km/3h

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/434028-tire-pressure-monitoring-system/?tab=comments#comment-4923976

high temperature were reported by Direct Tire Pressure Monitoring System

which were installed after blew up rear left by unknown reason, scroll above tread to beginning too

 

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Could it be possible that one of the alloy wheel rims has been damaged and is not perfectly round ? If the car had hit a bad pothole in the road then this may have damaged both the tyre and the wheel, but it is much more difficult to detect damage to the wheel.

 

One wheel that is not perfectly round would cause severe vibration but might well look ok on visual inspection.

 

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2 hours ago, BOD20 said:

Could it be possible that one of the alloy wheel rims has been damaged and is not perfectly round ? If the car had hit a bad pothole in the road then this may have damaged both the tyre and the wheel, but it is much more difficult to detect damage to the wheel.

 

One wheel that is not perfectly round would cause severe vibration but might well look ok on visual inspection.

 

That i have been told in the official service, but it is not seen with the naked eye.  almost 2 weeks later and they still don't have a diagnosis.  Bad enough of him.

Common things that can cause vibrations...

 

  • Tyres - Bulging, Damaged (flat spot), out of round - These should be easily spotted when the tyre is balanced
  • Alignment - Wheels pointing in the wrong direction, wrong camber or caster.
  • Engine & gearbox mounts - Damaged, loose, worn.
  • Axles/CV joints - Bent, worn or damaged 
  • Suspension - Bent or lose components and particularly damaged loose or worn bushings. Strut tower mounts.
  • Shock absorbers - Worn or damaged. Incorrect compression and or rebound rates
  • Drive-shafts - Half-shaft bearings damaged worn or loose. Bent shafts
  • Gearbox / Engine - Harmonic balancer failure. DSG Dual mass flywheel issues. Misfires. 

 

A dealer should be checking all the usual suspects.

 

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On a quiet road get the car well into the speed range which the vibration occurs, put it into neutral, turn the engine off, and coast.  If the vibration stops it is engine/drivetrain related.  If the frequency of the vibration changes when you change gear it is drive train related.

 

I'm tending towards a slightly warped disc if one wheel is getting very hot.

 

Sadly it looks as if the dealer just wants you to go away and doesn't want to fix it.  Can you get a view from another Skoda dealer who won't be thinking about how much the fix will cost him?

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  • They just called me that they had to ask a volkswagen mechanic for help, who are next door, and they are going to change the right front transmission. They say they are going to try that, but nothing is observed. It could be possible as it fits the newer right front tire and a possible curb hit as an English driver and maybe not controlling the distances. The latter is my guess, but it has happened to me in the UK and Ireland when driving right hand drive vehicles. God wants that to be that and be solved. Thank you all, I'll keep saying.
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Hi again, everybody

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I still have the car in the official workshop, they changed a transmission but it has not solved the problem. I changed the official workshop and now they tell me that maybe and only maybe, that it is the flex of the rear transmission and that coincidentally it is not covered by the Das Weltauto warranty.

Of course they have balanced my wheels (this is the 4th time).

 

My trusted mechanic, if he saw or tested the car, told me that it might be the DSG 6 gearbox. But a friend told me that if it were the gearbox in Neutral it wouldn't vibrate.

 

I'm desperate.

 

Any ideas will be welcome, thanks in advance.

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I'd be exploring the option of returning the car.

Not sure exactly what rights you have locally/ eu etc. Talk to a local specialist. Explore the option even if you have faith they will resolve.

 

Good luck

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3 hours ago, ColinD said:

Exploraría la opción de devolver el coche.

No estoy seguro de qué derechos tiene a nivel local / UE, etc. Hable con un especialista local. Explore la opción incluso si tiene fe en que se resolverán.

 

Buena suerte

They don't accept it. The warranty and conditions are the same (I think) throughout Europe, as it is Volkswagen Das Weltauto.

 

I am going to change the rear flex, transmission vibration damper, although I don't think I will solve it. . I'll see if I can handle it and I'll try to do a dynamic balancing of all the wheels, but in all of Madrid right now there is no place that does it.

 

I have read a lot about this and I have found the same vibrations in the same speed sections in vehicles fresh from the factory and already with kilometers.

 

Seat Tarraco TDi 150 Cv, new. Case in Spain in which the client complained to the Seat factory, 2 engineers went from Martorell to see and test the car and they told him that the car was in perfect condition in writing.


Hyundai Tucson.


Kia Sportage, Optima.


BMW 2 and 3 series.

 

I do not know what the problem is and above all I do not know what the solution may be, but I do not believe that there is not a group of engineers who do not know how to solve it.

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Actualizo el tema, después del último servicio oficial donde me hicieron un nuevo balance, parece que el auto está mejor, entonces entiendo que son los  rims los que dan problemas y estoy pensando en cambiarlos. También he cambiado el flex trasero de la transmisión. Con todo eso, parece que va mejor, pero ahora al acelerar fuerte en 5 o 6 marchas noto una vibración en la parte inferior ...

 

¿Que puede ser?

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On 03/09/2020 at 08:11, IJWS15 said:

On a quiet road get the car well into the speed range which the vibration occurs, put it into neutral, turn the engine off, and coast.  If the vibration stops it is engine/drivetrain related.  If the frequency of the vibration changes when you change gear it is drive train related.

 

I'm tending towards a slightly warped disc if one wheel is getting very hot.

 

Sadly it looks as if the dealer just wants you to go away and doesn't want to fix it.  Can you get a view from another Skoda dealer who won't be thinking about how much the fix will cost him?

 

Turn the engine off!!

 

Surely that is one of the most dangerous things to do. 

 

Lose power steering and braking?

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Hace 2 horas, Shugmo dijo:

 

¡Apague el motor!

 

Sin duda, esa es una de las cosas más peligrosas que se pueden hacer. 

 

¿Pierde dirección asistida y frenado?

I did not do such a thing ... also I have the kessy system.

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Unfortunately today I again felt vibrations in the steering wheel and on the ground and the accelerator pedal, especially when accelerating. The issue of the sun visor or the back of the passenger seat vibrating is no longer important at this time.

I begin to be desperate again.

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Did you solve this problem already?

I’m having the exact same symptoms that started after a service job at an garage. (Replaced tires)


Skoda dealer in Netherlands doesn’t want to work on it because its an imported car..

 

We are thinking about replacing both drive shafts now.

Some details;

 

2.0tdi 190hs/6dsg

no damage history

tried another set of rims/tires, no effect

replaced brakes because they thought it was sticking, no effect

 

it only vibrates between 90-120km/u

 

feels like the entire car is shaking itself apart in steering wheel/gaspedal/frontfloor

36 minutes ago, Supb16 said:

Did you solve this problem already?

I’m having the exact same symptoms that started after a service job at an garage. (Replaced tires)


Skoda dealer in Netherlands doesn’t want to work on it because its an imported car..

 

We are thinking about replacing both drive shafts now.

Some details;

 

2.0tdi 190hs/6dsg

no damage history

tried another set of rims/tires, no effect

replaced brakes because they thought it was sticking, no effect

 

it only vibrates between 90-120km/u

 

feels like the entire car is shaking itself apart in steering wheel/gaspedal/frontfloor

If it only happened after new tyres then it's the tyres!

Just now, NJRJ said:

If it only happened after new tyres then it's the tyres!

Already tried a different set of rims/tires of a car that doesn’t vibrate,, 

7 minutes ago, Supb16 said:

Already tried a different set of rims/tires of a car that doesn’t vibrate,, 

Presumably you re-balanced them? If not the first tyres happened to be so far out they managed to correct for the drive shafts - seems very unlikely?

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38 minutes ago, Supb16 said:

¿Ya resolviste este problema?

Tengo exactamente los mismos síntomas que comenzaron después de un trabajo de servicio en un garaje. (Neumáticos reemplazados)


El concesionario de Skoda en los Países Bajos no quiere trabajar en él porque es un automóvil importado.

 

Estamos pensando en reemplazar ambos ejes de transmisión ahora.

Algunos detalles;

 

2.0tdi 190hs / 6dsg

sin historial de daños

probé otro juego de llantas / neumáticos, sin efecto

Reemplazó los frenos porque pensaron que se atascaba, sin efecto

 

solo vibra entre 90-120km / u

 

se siente como si todo el automóvil se estuviera sacudiendo en el volante / pedal de gas / piso delantero

Hi. More or less is solved.

 

The vibrations are not as noticeable as before and it was fixed with a well done balance. I also changed the rear transmission flex, but I don't know if it actually did anything.

 

Currently I feel slight vibrations at speeds between 90 and 130 km / h but they are perfectly attributable to the state of the road. The backrest of the passenger seat and suns continue to vibrate.

 

I feel, when I go 150-160 km / h and I accelerate hard, especially on hills, even stronger vibrations.

 

I would love to be able to do a dynamic balance but in all of Madrid the only two sites that exist have the machine damaged. With this system, well done, all vibrations are solved.

 

Check the date on the tires and try balancing them elsewhere.

 

They changed a transmission to me but not for damage, if not for testing.

 

 

Dynamic balance.

 

 

1 minute ago, NJRJ said:

Presumably you re-balanced them? If not the first tyres happened to be so far out they managed to correct for the drive shafts - seems very unlikely?

Rebalanced 4 times, first 2 times by first garage, and the 3 and 4th time by a different garage..

Still vibrating

Anyway,, im gonna check all the bushings in the suspension / motormounts first myself this month (problem is having almost no free time to do it) ,, if I can’t find any issues there ill order 2 new drive shafts and replace them myself

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1 minute ago, Supb16 said:

Reequilibrado 4 veces, las 2 primeras veces por el primer garaje y la 3 y 4 veces por un garaje diferente.

Todavía vibrando

 

If you have only changed the tires ... things get complicated.

 

I would try changing the position wheels, although scientifically it doesn't make much sense.

 

If it can't be from the clutch, transmission ... they may have touched something when changing the tires. (brakes).

 

I could not tell you, if you can solve it, I am going to ask you please, tell it in this thread, to be able to have more data.

 

I have only 24,000 total kms with the car although it is from 2016, but my idea is to change shock absorbers, cups and tires in the future.

 

Out of curiosity, you won't have the extra rough roads, right?

I live in the Netherlands,, roads are very smokth here,, also the rims are not bend,, they where checked,,

 

also if I swap front with the back,, the vibration stays in the front

*smooth

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57 minutes ago, Supb16 said:

Vivo en los Países Bajos, las carreteras aquí están muy llenas de humo, también las llantas no están dobladas, se revisaron,

 

también si cambio el frente con la parte posterior, la vibración permanece en el frente

Here in Spain, we have very good roads, but vibrations are noticeable.

 

Do you have the extra rough roads that raises the car 1.5 centimeters?

No, almost all roads here are smooth

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