Hi all, first post. Bought a 2010 superb 2 weeks ago and generally very happy with it. I didn't notice at the time it was only a 5 speed, silly i know. It drives well enough but at around 60mph its sitting around 2000rpm. Is that ok? The timing belt was changed in 2016 around 47K, and its done 84K now, would i need to look at changing that again? The last service was 3K miles ago,  it's a 77KW BXE PD engine. 

 

Thanks for any replies. 

Apparently the cam or timing belt is good for 120k or so. There’s a few threads on it (check threads for figures). Short version is that the belts are only recommended to be changed every few years in the UK whilst the rest of the world is the other side of ten years of average driving. If you want to ensure it is in good condition you can always pull the cover to have a look at it and photograph and inspect the belt.

 

Ours is a five speed too (Greenline), the six speed Seems to be a FL thing.

 

I get 62mpg combined now and just drive gently, the rpm seems just fine.

On 22/09/2020 at 11:01, MikkyTee said:

Hi all, first post. Bought a 2010 superb 2 weeks ago and generally very happy with it. I didn't notice at the time it was only a 5 speed, silly i know. It drives well enough but at around 60mph its sitting around 2000rpm. Is that ok? The timing belt was changed in 2016 around 47K, and its done 84K now, would i need to look at changing that again? The last service was 3K miles ago,  it's a 77KW BXE PD engine. 

 

Thanks for any replies. 

 

2000rpm at 60mph is about the same as with my previous 1.9pd 100ps Superb mk1 5 speed - almost the same engine.

 

I thought with the 1.9pd the cambelt interval was 4 years and 80k miles - with later VAG engines the interval was increased to 5 years.

Edited 25 September, 20205 yr by bigjohn

With PD diesel engines, Skoda UK recommendation is 4yr/40,000miles. Later CR diesels that followed PD are 5yr/60,000 miles, some recent diesel engines can go 5yr/100,000+ miles. Skoda UK do not do the service inspection regime thats used in some other countries that would allow even longer time intervals though the mileage limit is still the same. Some UK dealers stick with a blanket 4yr/40,000 mile recommendation for all engines, for reasons best known to themselves.

 

PD engines are particularly tough on cambelts because the undersized cambelt drives the PD unit injectors which impose high impulse loads in addition to the valve gear and a plastic impeller water pump which is prone to failure. On the PD engines its highly recommended to replace the water pump at the same time as the belt and tensioners as they are known to fail, sometimes seizing and destroying the engine.

 

 

Edited 25 September, 20205 yr by xman

10 hours ago, xman said:

Some UK dealers stick with a blanket 4yr/40,000 mile recommendation for all engines, for reasons best known to themselves.

 

 

 

Ah yes now I remember.  VAG revised down the cambelt for all engines a while ago to 4 years / 40,000 miles. My old 2001 1.4 16v Octavia used to have 110,000 miles listed in the manual. I had it from new and at about 46,000  miles the engine made a funny noise which I took back under warranty which turned out to be failing plastic tensioner/pulley wheels. Cambelt/tensioners etc were changed FOC(engine was not damaged!) and at about that time Skoda revised the change interval to 40,000 miles.

 

My 2003 Superb 1.9pd that followed it had 80,000 in the manual as the cambelt change interval but this had also been revised down to 40,000 miles. I thought for cars after 2009 the change interval was increased. However the pd is indeed hard on the cambelt due to the unit injectors being operated by the camshaft. You also need to make sure the correct oil is used or the cam operation of the injector pumps will wear prematurely.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, it’s been 4 years since the belt was replaced and it’s over the 40K now so I’ll probably have to get it replaced soon, I had a bora pd for 12 years and it got to over 250k, and never really had any engine issues whatsoever but it was a 6 speed and this one drives well enough but man do I miss that sixth gear as it’s a little loud at 60mph. Over that speed and around 65-70 the whole car starts shaking but not through the steering which is a little worrying.  What oil does the pd need? My research gives me 504-507 spec, or 505.01? 5w40. 

Mines a 2013 with 6 speed, 70k and egr valve packed in.

Don’t know if it’s with some short journeys I do or not reviving it enough but who knows.

Lately been driving it and keeping it in 5th on the roads round where I live as I noticed like you that 5th is 2000rpm and 6th knocks it down to 17000rpm. Don’t know if it’s my imagination but the fuel consumption also seems better

On 27/09/2020 at 19:11, Snapper1725 said:

Mines a 2013 with 6 speed, 70k and egr valve packed in.

Don’t know if it’s with some short journeys I do or not reviving it enough but who knows.

Lately been driving it and keeping it in 5th on the roads round where I live as I noticed like you that 5th is 2000rpm and 6th knocks it down to 17000rpm. Don’t know if it’s my imagination but the fuel consumption also seems better

 

Is yours the 170ps Elegance as per signature? if so this would be much longer geared than the1.9pd 105ps 77kw .

 

I have to say I agree re 5th compared to 6th, there are some lower speeds I find my 1.4tsi is more economical in 5th compared to 6th. 6th is very much an overdrive gear on this poverty spec petrol. Doing 30 mph at 1000rpm is sixth translates to 180mph at 6000rpm which clearly the 1.4 125ps can't do! Saying that it still pulls way better than you'd ever expect at higher speeds on the German Autobahn 

 

Edited 28 September, 20205 yr by bigjohn

From the service manual for the Superb, manufacturer belt change intervals are:

• PD: 150000 km for belt, 300000 km for tensioner pulley
• CR 1st gen (CBBB engine - early CR170): 180000 km for belt, 360000 km for tensioner pulley
• CR 2nd gen (all other CR engines): 210000 km for belt and tensioner pulley

There are no age limits specified. There's a requirement that in dust rich countries the belt is changed at 120000 km on all engines. Individual importers may vary from this as the UK has done.

 

Regarding oil for the PD engines, it depends on whether a DPF is fitted or not. The BXE without a DPF can use 506 01 or 507 00 if it's on flexible service intervals, or 505 01 only on fixed intervals. The BKD without a DPF is not permitted to use flexible service intervals and must use 505 01 on fixed service intervals. The BLS and BMP with DPF can only use 507 00 regardless of service interval (507 00 is a low ash specification which is needed to avoid killing the DPF early with oil ash).

 

Thanks yes no dpf fitted to this car thankfully. Just as a side note, what oil for the jcr gear box? I’m taking the car in for inspection to my mechanic and I think I’ll get him to change out the oil while it’s there. I’m reading 85w/90 should be fine... ? 

On 27/09/2020 at 13:31, MikkyTee said:

 Over that speed and around 65-70 the whole car starts shaking but not through the steering which is a little worrying

 

The Superb II can be rather sensitive to wheel balancing - worth doing first. Also check the rear tyres for a funny tread wear - with the independent rear suspension it can be prone strange wear patterns.

Edited 30 September, 20205 yr by bigjohn