Happy New Year 🥳 

 

I have recently became the proud owner of an 13’ Octavia Vrs in race blue.

 

However due to the inclement conditions in Caledonia I will be dropping on some winters.

 

My question is this: Will a set of alloys from a Passat with 7J  ET45  and 215/55/16 tyres go onto the Octy?

 

They came from a 2012 170bhp Passat Estate I believe.

 

All help and information is welcome and appreciated.

 

Colin.

 

1 hour ago, CozB said:

Happy New Year 🥳 

 

I have recently became the proud owner of an 13’ Octavia Vrs in race blue.

 

However due to the inclement conditions in Caledonia I will be dropping on some winters.

 

My question is this: Will a set of alloys from a Passat with 7J  ET45  and 215/55/16 tyres go onto the Octy?

 

They came from a 2012 170bhp Passat Estate I believe.

 

All help and information is welcome and appreciated.

 

Colin.

 

 

The Octavia MK2 RS models use 312mm diameter front brake discs, which means that 16" rims will clear the front brake calipers.

http://www.oemepc.com/skoda/parts_lst/markt/CZ/modell/OCT/year/2012/hg/6/catalog/sk/drive_standart/663/lang/e

 

However, 205/55R16 tyres fitted to 6.5Jx16 ET50 rims is one of the standard tyre and rim options on the Octavia MK2, not 7Jx16 ET45.

 

Although you could use them, a 7J rim is the same rim width as used by the 225/45R17 tyres fitted to 7Jx17 ET54 rims.

 

Some may like the sporty handling of the stretched sidewalls, but it does make the ride harder and leaves the alloy rims more exposed to kerbing damage.

 

7Jx17 ET54 RS Alloy Rims

http://www.oemepc.com/skoda/part_single/catalog/sk/markt/CZ/modell/OCT/year/2012/drive_standart/663/hg_ug/601/subcategory/601070/part_id/2543668/lang/e

 

Notice below, that the Superb MK2 also had a 7Jx16 ET45 rim option together with a 6Jx16 ET50 rim option. The 6Jx16 ET50 was to allow for snow chains. Rather than 7Jx16 ET45 rims, I would choose 6Jx16 ET50 rims to maximize comfort and reduce the risk of kerbing damage to the rims. So similar to the standard Octavia MK2 6.5Jx16 ET50 rims, but 0.5" narrower. After all, the 225/45R17 fitted to 7Jx17 ET54 rims are also narrow relative to the tyre's width. 

Skoda Superb 2012 2.0TDi

– Generation: 3T [2008 .. 2014] [EUDM]  

– Power: 138 hp | 103 kW | 140 PS 

– Engine: I4, Diesel

– Center Bore: 57.1 mm 

– Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts 

– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5 

– Trim Production: [2008 .. 2014]

Tire	Rim	PCD
205/55R16 94V	6Jx16 ET50	5x112	2.3 / 2.1
205/55R16 94V	7Jx16 ET45	5x112	2.3 / 2.1
225/45ZR17 94W	7.5Jx17 ET49	5x112	2.5 / 2.3
225/40ZR18 92Y	7.5Jx18 ET46	5x112	2.5 / 2.3

 

Edited 1 January, 20215 yr by Carlston

Good evening Carlton,

 

thank you kindly for the very thorough and very informative breakdown. I did have the option of getting some 205/55/16’s on 7J also but they are not VAG rather they are aftermarket that were fitted to an Audi A7.

 

The aforementioned Passat alloys are already in my possession, I primarily wanted to ensure they could be used as opposed to extra financial outlay on another set of rims.

 

I will see how she runs with them on and if I indeed find the ride quality to be harsh I will try to source ET50 6J 205/55/16’s.

 

Thank you again for the information.

Depending upon your tyres, I suspect that they'll work fine.  I sold my Mk5 Golf earlier this year but previously I was using Audi A3 alloys with 215/55/16 Kumho winter tyres.  The Kumhos weren't the best but I got them for next to nothing and they were much better on Fife roads in the winter than the OEM 225/45x17 Michelins Pilot Primacy.  

Edited 1 January, 20215 yr by Schtum

205x55x16 gives a very close circumference to the VRS 225x40x18 for speedo accuracy. We have 205x55x16 winters (Conti WinterContact) on the VRS and the 16's fit over the calipers fine.

1 hour ago, FatblokeVRS said:

205x55x16 gives a very close circumference to the VRS 225x40x18 for speedo accuracy. We have 205x55x16 winters (Conti WinterContact) on the VRS and the 16's fit over the calipers fine.

 

It keeps the speedo close to the original level of inaccuracy.  I found that 215/55x16 was more closely matched to an accurate GPS speed reading. 

A very good morning to you both.

 

Thank you both for the info and opinions.

 

I saw little or no sense buying  another set if the sat’ alloys would drop on and didn’t really want to go non VAG (which I’m very new to) if I could help it.

 

I’m also very conscious these will be on bolts and not nuts like my previous cars.

 

What’s would you recommend is the best way to get them lined up/presented etc when putting the new tyres back on?

 

My initial thought was to “prop” them on a brick or something similar at the correct height then thread the initial bolt in to “hold” the alloy on then add the rest.

 

I will be doing this singlehanded and do not have an impact gun (breaker, spider and a torque wrench)

 

My apologies for my ignorance in the matter and all suggestions welcomed.

 

 

4 hours ago, Schtum said:

Depending upon your tyres, I suspect that they'll work fine.  I sold my Mk5 Golf earlier this year but previously I was using Audi A3 alloys with 215/55/16 Kumho winter tyres.  The Kumhos weren't the best but I got them for next to nothing and they were much better on Fife roads in the winter than the OEM 225/45x17 Michelins Pilot Primacy.  

 

3 hours ago, FatblokeVRS said:

205x55x16 gives a very close circumference to the VRS 225x40x18 for speedo accuracy. We have 205x55x16 winters (Conti WinterContact) on the VRS and the 16's fit over the calipers fine.

A very good morning to you both.

 

Thank you both for the info and opinions.

 

I saw little or no sense buying  another set if the sat’ alloys would drop on and didn’t really want to go non VAG (which I’m very new to) if I could help it.

 

I’m also very conscious these will be on bolts and not nuts like my previous cars.

 

What’s would you recommend is the best way to get them lined up/presented etc when putting the new tyres back on?

 

My initial thought was to “prop” them on a brick orsomething similar at the correct height then thread the initial bolt in to “hold” the alloy on then add the rest.

 

I will be doing this singlehanded and do not have an impact gun (breaker, spider and a torque wrench)

 

My apologies for my ignorance in the matter and all suggestions welcomed.

 

 

There's a lip on the hub.  So you'll probably find that you can put the wheel on and hold it there with one hand or a knee while you insert the bolts.  

1 hour ago, Schtum said:

There's a lip on the hub.  So you'll probably find that you can put the wheel on and hold it there with one hand or a knee while you insert the bolts.  

Great idea sir, thank you.

 

I couldn’t see the woods for the trees!

 

Didn’t think about doing it like that, was so focused on trying to line them up I completely missed the balance/hang them on the hub 😁👍

 

thanks again!

 

 

If you're anywhere close, I could nip round with my trolley jack and a long pole to hold the wheel on while you do it up.  

To assist putting on wheels there is a simple tool sold.

There are threads on this forum about them.

 

It is a threaded rod that you screw into the bolt hole.

You usually then put that to the top and slide the wheel onto it.     Commonly used with 4x4, van  or heavier wheels but you will get one to fit Skoda / VW group cars.

 

No need to pay a crazy price like this for the alignment tool or postage...

 

Edited 2 January, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

6 hours ago, Schtum said:

If you're anywhere close, I could nip round with my trolley jack and a long pole to hold the wheel on while you do it up.  

Thanks for the offer but 

 

6 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

To assist putting on wheels there is a simple tool sold.

There are threads on this forum about them.

 

It is a threaded rod that you screw into the bolt hole.

You usually then put that to the top and slide the wheel onto it.     Commonly used with 4x4, van  or heavier wheels but you will get one to fit Skoda / VW group cars.

 

No need to pay a crazy price like this for the alignment tool or postage...

 

think I should be ok especially with e-Roottoot’s helpful heads up 👍

 

 

6 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

To assist putting on wheels there is a simple tool sold.

There are threads on this forum about them.

 

It is a threaded rod that you screw into the bolt hole.

You usually then put that to the top and slide the wheel onto it.     Commonly used with 4x4, van  or heavier wheels but you will get one to fit Skoda / VW group cars.

 

No need to pay a crazy price like this for the alignment tool or postage...

 

I have one winging it’s way to me as we speak 😁

 

Thank you for the info it’s a massive help!

 

I have never had a car with bolts always lug nuts so was completely ignorant on what to use and how to do it.

 

Until now.

 

Briskoda is truelly one of the best forums I have ever used 👍

What tyre did you fit? I ended up with a set of AllSeasonContacts, you can see them tested here https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Tyre-Reviews-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm in 18" on my vrs and was happy with them, even if the steering was a little wooly

6 hours ago, jon- said:

What tyre did you fit? I ended up with a set of AllSeasonContacts, you can see them tested here https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Tyre-Reviews-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm in 18" on my vrs and was happy with them, even if the steering was a little wooly John,

 

Hi John,

 

they came with Continental Winter Contacts.

 

They aren’t fitted yet so will give you a shout on running performance etc once on.

 

As you will have likely have read they were fitted to an older Passat TDi so I’m hoping they should be golden.

 

Pics will follow once fitted for anyone that’s interested😁

On 02/01/2021 at 16:37, Schtum said:

If you're anywhere close, I could nip round with my trolley jack and a long pole to hold the wheel on while you do it up.  

Good day to you sir,

 

just a thought will be whipping off the 18’a to put the winters on and thought will put muddies on at the same time?

 

would you happen to know the code or part number of said guards that will fit a VRS Mk2 wagon?

 

thank you in advance!

Sorry CozB, I can't help you there.  

2 hours ago, Schtum said:

Sorry CozB, I can't help you there.  

No worries sir👍

I run 215/55R16 winters on my Scout.

 

Fit great, They're about 643mm OD.  Slightly smaller than the scout standard size (657mm) but slightly bigger than the non-scout models (632mm for 205/55r16).

 

3 hours ago, Kiwibacon said:

I run 215/55R16 winters on my Scout.

 

Fit great, They're about 643mm OD.  Slightly smaller than the scout standard size (657mm) but slightly bigger than the non-scout models (632mm for 205/55r16).

 

Magic news Kiwibacon thank you for letting me know, all the responses have put my mind at ease that wee bit more 😁👍

On 06/01/2021 at 03:33, Kiwibacon said:

I run 215/55R16 winters on my Scout.

 

Fit great, They're about 643mm OD.  Slightly smaller than the scout standard size (657mm) but slightly bigger than the non-scout models (632mm for 205/55r16).

 

The Blue Beestie with the Passat alloys and the 215/55/16 winters.

 

Not really noticed any negatives in steering or in handling.

 

Usual road noise increase from the winters but apart from that it’s all good.

 

Next will be window tinting once the lockdown is eased.