Totally agree, especially the last paragraph. Like him or loathe him, you have to respect Lewis’s speed. 

Launch pic Mclaren. I know Norris is little but current F1 cars are the size of a small bus!

 

 

Just checked - the Mercedes is said to be 5.7m long and 2 metres wide. That's 70's Cadillac territory!!

 

 

 

In fact to put it into Mercedes-Benz context, longer and wider than this:

 

 

 

Thats huge! Please bring back little agile F1 cars with the new 2025 rules.

 

 

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I’m looking forwards to next year’s overhaul of the cars (is 2025 the engine reg changes?) but I don’t think it will level the playing field as they hope. 

2022 will see the new aero concept and the start of the engine freeze. Also the "restrictions" on windtunnel and CFD time - the teams at the top of the Constructors will be allowed less than the backmarkers, hoping to close the field up. I don't know how they will police shared wind tunnels though? (RB/AT and Ferrari/Haas)

So the competitive order could get shaken up.

2025 is the date of the new power train rules, but it looks like being a hybrid again, although with simpler energy recovery.

Thanks for the clarification. So, for me, next year will be the biggest shake up of the sport in a long time; unless the 2025 power unit change is that big?

56 minutes ago, DiscoStoo said:

Thanks for the clarification. So, for me, next year will be the biggest shake up of the sport in a long time; unless the 2025 power unit change is that big?

Yes, should have been this year but for Covid causing the 20-21 chassis carryover. That said, some teams have obviously made major changes to their cars, so I bet they all have. Standby for protests against teams that perform well again.

Just rewatched the 2020 Eifel race and I enjoyed it; made me think of that dedicated F1 forum where they’re really up themselves and because they’ve done a bit of karting they think they can bad-mouth the likes of Lewis and co. - and even Schumi. 
Ah well. 
 

By the way, anyone play F1 2020 online on Xbox?

Regarding the extreme size of current  F1 cars; The gorgeous, successful, but ill fated, Ferrari 126 C2 shown below was over 4 feet shorter, and the later C4 was smaller still, being more than 5 feet shorter than todays Merc.

 

 

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FIVE feet?!

On 20/02/2021 at 05:32, DiscoStoo said:

FIVE feet?!

Yup the C4 was 4.1 metres long.

The current Mercedes 5.7 metres.

 

These hybrid cars are behemoths.

On 19/02/2021 at 22:07, camelspyyder said:

Regarding the extreme size of current  F1 cars; The gorgeous, successful, but ill fated, Ferrari 126 C2 shown below was over 4 feet shorter, and the later C4 was smaller still, being more than 5 feet shorter than todays Merc.

 

 

And look where the driver's leg would be not very driver safety focused back then. I see race 3 now in Portugal then onto Spain a week later and then off to Monaco for race 5. Three days testing in Bahrain before the first race at the end of March with Australia moved back to November.

24 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

And look where the driver's leg would be not very driver safety focused back then. I see race 3 now in Portugal then onto Spain a week later and then off to Monaco for race 5. Three days testing in Bahrain before the first race at the end of March with Australia moved back to November.

The length of the cars is more to do with the aero rules. Porsches 962 had the drivers feet moved back from the 956 for safety  but it wasn't 5 feet longer, more like 4.5 inches.

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32 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

I see race 3 now in Portugal then onto Spain a week later and then off to Monaco for race 5. Three days testing in Bahrain before the first race at the end of March with Australia moved back to November.

Has Portugal been confirmed then?

 

The statement 2 weeks back was a bit ambiguous.

 

F1.com (the official site) has not yet added it to the schedule.

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6 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

Has Portugal been confirmed then?

 

The statement last week was a bit ambiguous.

Confirmed by BBC Sport for May 2nd.

Yeah Autosport ran that story 2 weeks ago as well, but F1.com (official) haven't yet added it to the schedule.

Yeah Autosport ran that story 2 weeks ago as well, but F1.com (official) haven't yet added it to the schedule.

 

It was a great race last year. Hope it happens 

On 24/02/2021 at 17:42, camelspyyder said:

 

 

It was a great race last year. Hope it happens 

Totally agree, can only see positives for this race. 
I notice that Vietnam is off the calendar and is likely to never host a race in the near future. Shame, as I love new tracks testing drivers; I’ve played the venue online and it’s fast, tight and challenging with some beautiful (but deadly) chicanes in it. Imagine Baku with less acute angles. 

4 hours ago, DiscoStoo said:

Totally agree, can only see positives for this race. 
I notice that Vietnam is off the calendar and is likely to never host a race in the near future. Shame, as I love new tracks testing drivers; I’ve played the venue online and it’s fast, tight and challenging with some beautiful (but deadly) chicanes in it. Imagine Baku with less acute angles. 

Yes Hanoi looked good, but it appears to have exceeded even  Yeongam or Buddh as a white elephant.

Would you mind elaborating on this? I don’t know anything about that!

10 hours ago, DiscoStoo said:

Would you mind elaborating on this? I don’t know anything about that!

 

I know it was Andrew Benson, and I normally treat his writing with a pinch of salt, but the BBC speculated after the cancellation of Hanoi 2021 that the race would never happen in Vietnam.

 

This would make the unused circuit even more useless than those in India and South Korea.

 

That said there was news this week that F1 is still negotiating with the organisers, despite their figurehead being jailed for corruption and spying.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/56252715

 

This screams at me that Lewis will be leaving Mercedes at the end of this year. Another team? I think he’ll take his 8 titles and do whatever else he feels is important… as no one will ever beat that figure. 

Weak colour scheme on the Mercedes for me. The Alpine (Renault) looks far more distinctive.

 

 

1 hour ago, DiscoStoo said:

This screams at me that Lewis will be leaving Mercedes at the end of this year. Another team? I think he’ll take his 8 titles and do whatever else he feels is important… as no one will ever beat that figure. 

Max is only 24. When he gets in the top car he could be unstoppable.

 

 

Edited 2 March, 20215 yr by camelspyyder