I have a question guys the digital oil temperature gauge starts about 50, c I've seen 110,c   how high does it go up to at the most importantly at what point should I concern myself       let's theorise it hits 170 not      that I've ever seen it what is a dangerous temperature just for my future reference      being that these oils nowadays are very thin not that I'm going to be going on a race track but    I was thinking of going to Germany next year and give it a good lrun on the autobahns sometimes if I'm sitting in traffic in London and watching the gauge climb I just wondered what is the Dangerous level or does the car warn me getting too hot thank you guys

The car will warn you. 

(Just as long as the warnings are not broken.  Un-coded maybe because you were messing about touching stuff you do not understand.)

 

If it gets to 170*oC in the UK in the Summer on a track then be sure to come into the pits and open the bonnet and let it cool down.  (keep the engine running.)

It will cool it's self even if you switch off, that is why the Coolant shows at 90*oC, that is the coolant, and the oil is a coolant, and the fans will run and the pumps pump.

 

If you have the correct oil in and the correct amount and get it to 115*oC at this time of the year in Kent i would be concerned.

For you keeping your licence.

 

Maybe your Octavia 1.5 TSI 150 PS will be better with 0w-30 FS in for your trips on the Continent.

But then you have a Warranty from the Czech / German car maker, so maybe stick with the recommended VW508  , so 0w 20 FS IV.

And have the Servicing done at a VAT Registered place using the Factory Approved Fluids and Parts.

Edited 25 January, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

6 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

The car will warn you. 

(Just as long as the warnings are not broken.  Un-coded maybe because you were messing about touching stuff you do not understand.)

 

If it gets to 170*oC in the UK in the Summer on a track then be sure to come into the pits and open the bonnet and let it cool down.

 

If you have the correct oil in and the correct amount and get it to 115*oC at this time of the year in Kent i would be conserned.

For you keeping your licence.

 

Maybe your Octavia 1.5 TSI 150 PS will be better with 0w-30 FS in for your trips on the Continent.

But then you have a Warranty from the Czech / German car maker, so maybe stick with the recommended VW508  , so 0w 20 FS IV.

And have the Servicing done at a VAT Registered place using the Factory Approved Fluids and Parts.

I just wondered how High the temperature gauge goes and does the vehicle warn me when he gets too hot hot let's say I'm stuck in traffic in London on a very hot day  at what point do I start to worry I will stick to the oil guidelines and manufacturer guidelines I was only curious when I had my Vauxhall all didn't concern me me because there was no turbocharger and I ran 5:30 t-top spec oils did not ever have any issue but the damn thing never had an all gauge just a temperature gauge which I now realise on modern cars doesn't mean Diddley it's the oil gauge you should look at at which I was lucky was pointed out to me bye my somebody who knows all about modern engines and turbochargers when thrush them when they're hot I usually take it easy until the temperature has hit 70 Celsius I was only curious about the top end temperature very interesting modern engines and turbo chargers does this engine come with any form of oil cooler I do not suppose it does but just curious thanks bud as always been immense help

8 minutes ago, Diljit said:

let's say I'm stuck in traffic in London on a very hot day

The oil won't get very hot in this situation, because the engine will be doing very little work.

 

Do a search; this question about what oil temperature you should not exceed, or similar, comes up quite regularly.

 

@DiljitThey are modern engines, not decade old V8 petrols.

 

Start to worry when the car warns you and all the other drivers around you in VW engined 1.5 TSI's with the Factory Oil. 

 

Look at the Coolant Gauge and if it is getting to the high 90's and going to the red then worry. 

Edited 25 January, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

40 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

@DiljitThey are modern engines, not decade old V8 petrols.

 

Start to worry when the car warns you and all the other drivers around you in VW engined 1.5 TSI's with the Factory Oil. 

 

Look at the Coolant Gauge and if it is getting to the high 90's and going to the red then worry. 

Cool mate😎

I tow with my Scout. In the past on hot summer days the oil temp has gone as high as 120c plus. No warning, and the only sign the cars was under stress was the normally rock solid water temp gauge rose to about 95 to 100 very briefly as it absorbed the excess heat from the oil. That was up a hill in Scotland. On the flat it quickly returned to ‘normal’ towing temps of between 105c to 115, depending on grade. As an aside after having my water pump changed last year the highest the oil has ever gone whilst towing was 108c and my normal unladen oil temp has dropped to 91. So it’s all about the efficiency of the cars cooling.

19 minutes ago, Nickj633 said:

I tow with my Scout. In the past on hot summer days the oil temp has gone as high as 120c plus. No warning, and the only sign the cars was under stress was the normally rock solid water temp gauge rose to about 95 to 100 very briefly as it absorbed the excess heat from the oil. That was up a hill in Scotland. On the flat it quickly returned to ‘normal’ towing temps of between 105c to 115, depending on grade. As an aside after having my water pump changed last year the highest the oil has ever gone whilst towing was 108c and my normal unladen oil temp has dropped to 91. So it’s all about the efficiency of the cars cooling.

Thanks friend that really does help me gives me a good guidance the only reason because these are newer engines I didn't want to have a problem in the event I went on the German autobahn for a damn good Italian tuning and blue my car up ok I'm just dreaming I'll keep an eye on the good old trusted reliable coolant gauge and if it hits 120c    on pulling over and having a sandwich until it cools down😂🤣

@Diljit you need to not mix the coolant gauge with the oil temp read out.  If you get the coolant gauge reading 120*oC with your 1 5tsi then you really have issues.      Oil temp will be higher than the coolant temp,  the coolant is there to cool the oil.       No point making comparisons of a small capacity TSI with a TDI.    Apples and pears.

Edited 26 January, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

11 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

@Diljit you need to not mix the coolant gauge with the oil temp read out.  If you get the coolant gauge reading 120*oC with your 1 5tsi then you really have issues.      Oil temp will be higher than the coolant temp,  the coolant is there to cool the oil.       No point making comparisons of a small capacity TSI with a TDI.    Apples and pears.

Yap mate getting a handle on this now think you guys on the Forerunner really helped with my issue just didn't want to run into problems further on down the line on those very hot days keep an eye on the water temperature and if it hits 120 on the oil temperature I'm going to pull over and have a beer until it cools down

There are millions of cars now running around Europe with 1.0, 1.2, 1.4 and 1.5 TSI engines and some might be getting driven near the red line on long journeys and not siting roadside with seized engines.   Just do your regular checks and enjoy the car.

Unless you're planning on driving your car all day at the limit, I wouldn't worry about oil temps or coolant temps. Generally (unless there's something is blocked / broken with your cooling system) the faster you're going, the more air is passing through the radiator and the more cooling will be happening. I took my old Hyundai on a few track days and the only thing which got affected by the temperature were the brakes.

 

Two things to do before going out for a fast drive; make sure all your liquids (oil, coolant, fuel, screen wash) are topped up and get your car up to temperature before you start ragging it.

41 minutes ago, tunedude said:

Unless you're planning on driving your car all day at the limit, I wouldn't worry about oil temps or coolant temps. Generally (unless there's something is blocked / broken with your cooling system) the faster you're going, the more air is passing through the radiator and the more cooling will be happening. I took my old Hyundai on a few track days and the only thing which got affected by the temperature were the brakes.

 

Two things to do before going out for a fast drive; make sure all your liquids (oil, coolant, fuel, screen wash) are topped up and get your car up to temperature before you start ragging it.

Just curious what do you regard as operating temperature I thought 70c  was about right what's your input would be most grateful

1 hour ago, Diljit said:

Just curious what do you regard as operating temperature I thought 70c  was about right what's your input would be most grateful

70C seems far too low to me for normal oil operating temperature - my 1.4TSI normal runs nearer to 90C (higher on hot days when on the motorway or climbing long steep Devon hills).

 

Plus - my previous car (Audi B7 RS4) didn't remove a 4500rpm rev limiter until the oil temperature reached 70C

1 hour ago, PetrolDave said:

70C seems far too low to me for normal oil operating temperature - my 1.4TSI normal runs nearer to 90C (higher on hot days when on the motorway or climbing long steep Devon hills).

 

Plus - my previous car (Audi B7 RS4) didn't remove a 4500rpm rev limiter until the oil temperature reached 70C

Just curious does this engine have a rev limiter on cold days I presume (((( it doesn't))))))))))but I don't go ,,,,,,,over 3000,,,,,, revolutions anyway on a cold morning until it gets to about 70c

Just now, Diljit said:

Just curious does this engine have a rev limiter on cold days I presume (((( it doesn't))))))))))but I don't go ,,,,,,,over 3000,,,,,, revolutions anyway on a cold morning until it gets to about 70c

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Just curious does this engine have a rev limiter on cold days I presume (((( it doesn't))))))))))but I don't go ,,,,,,,over 3000,,,,,, revolutions anyway on a cold morning until it gets to about 70c

@DiljitDo you have a manual or a DSG?

 

I take it even below 3,000 rpm in your 1.5TSI in the gears has the car moving quite fast along the road.

 

If it takes 5 miles or so to get your indicated oil temp to 50*oC on a cold day / night then that is far enough and warm enough for the oil to boot it and get a shift on.

Especially if something is up your bum wandering if you are running in your car.

29 minutes ago, Diljit said:

Just curious does this engine have a rev limiter on cold days I presume (((( it doesn't))))))))))but I don't go ,,,,,,,over 3000,,,,,, revolutions anyway on a cold morning until it gets to about 70c

No it doesn't - other than the good sense of the driver

3 hours ago, Diljit said:

Just curious what do you regard as operating temperature I thought 70c  was about right what's your input would be most grateful

 

When the coolant is on 90'c and the oil is at least got a bit of temperature in it as well, 70'c +

On 25/01/2021 at 15:03, Diljit said:

I have a question guys the digital oil temperature gauge starts about 50, c I've seen 110,c   how high does it go up to at the most importantly at what point should I concern myself       let's theorise it hits 170 not      that I've ever seen it what is a dangerous temperature just for my future reference      being that these oils nowadays are very thin not that I'm going to be going on a race track but    I was thinking of going to Germany next year and give it a good lrun on the autobahns sometimes if I'm sitting in traffic in London and watching the gauge climb I just wondered what is the Dangerous level or does the car warn me getting too hot thank you guys

Okay. We had a 2018 Octavia TDI VRS which we took to European Skoda Tour 2019. Bombing along at 100mph/160kph was fantastic on the Autobahns from Hook van Holland to Pilsen and the oil temperature even in the height of Summer didn't go above 110C. 8hrs of continuous motorway driving all was good. Even when it got to 43C one day at Pilsen in Czechia, the car didn't sweat too much. Mpg went down (more fueling needed) and traveling through the centre of Prague (an experience) with the outside temperature at 38C didn't phase the car. I think the throttle response got a little fluffy when we were in traffic otherwise all was good.

I've driven a couple of times with my 1.4 TSI DSG in hot weather. And even with 3 adults, a dog, a boot full and 3 bikes on the back I've never seen anything more than 115c.

 

I do have a factory tow bar though and on the 1.4 TSI (and the 1.5 TSI I believe) this includes an uprated radiator.

2 hours ago, Phil-E said:

I've driven a couple of times with my 1.4 TSI DSG in hot weather. And even with 3 adults, a dog, a boot full and 3 bikes on the back I've never seen anything more than 115c.

 

I do have a factory tow bar though and on the 1.4 TSI (and the 1.5 TSI I believe) this includes an uprated radiator.

That is most helpful

2 hours ago, Phil-E said:

I've driven a couple of times with my 1.4 TSI DSG in hot weather. And even with 3 adults, a dog, a boot full and 3 bikes on the back I've never seen anything more than 115c.

 

I do have a factory tow bar though and on the 1.4 TSI (and the 1.5 TSI I believe) this includes an uprated radiator.

That is most helpful

Up to 110, 115c is fine, and the oil will be fine.

 

As others have said, it will warn you if it is getting too hot and as the engines regulate their own temp if you start getting oil temp warnings then it is a sign of another issue.

 

No warnings, no problems.

 

Cheers,

 

Guy

1 hour ago, oilman said:

Up to 110, 115c is fine, and the oil will be fine.

 

As others have said, it will warn you if it is getting too hot and as the engines regulate their own temp if you start getting oil temp warnings then it is a sign of another issue.

 

No warnings, no problems.

 

Cheers,

 

Guy

Cheers mate

Cheers mate