Hi-Ya 

 

Just a quick one really (hoping someone might know) I have the factory Skoda car alarm with the ultrasonic interior sensors by the interior lights & a red LED on the drivers door, along with the switch on the lower drivers door pillar to disable the interior ultrasonic sensors but what I would like to know is what other features comes with the factory Skoda alarm? does it have the following:

 

Anti-tilt motion/jacking up the car? (if you jack up the car off of the ground slightly) the siren will sound.

Exterior proximity sensor/protection? (so if you kick, bash the car/windows/body-work hard enough) the siren will sound.

Door, Boot, Bonnet, Trunk protection? (open any of these & the siren will sound)

Battery Back-up siren (does the siren have a built in battery backup)

Thatcham category 1 or 2? (for insurance purposes)

 

Also I would like to know if this is a setting on the infotainment screen or will it need coding with obd eleven?

Horn honk output (so the horn will sound along with the siren but only when the alarm siren is going off from an alarm trigger) 

If anyone can share with me the coding/settings via obd eleven, I'd appreciate that. 

 

Because I'm sure my vRS has this from the factory Skoda alarm, I was looking at getting a (Clifford) canbus alarm installed/fitted 330x due to the features it has! but something is telling me that I don't need to or waste my money at a time like this (especially) as the factory alarm is good enough with those features above already enabled.

 

Thanks 

Taken from https://www.thatcham.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/January-2021-OE.pdf

 

It's in the Category 1 section:

 

So that would be:

  R - Remote

  T - Transponder

  S - Software Lock

  U - Ultrasonic
  M - Microwave

  L - Central Locking

 

Anti-tilt motion/jacking up the car? Probably not, easy to check with a jack...

Exterior proximity sensor/protection? Probably not, try kicking it or quickly dropping it off the jack

Door, Boot, Bonnet, Trunk protection? Yup

Battery Back-up siren? Yup (should last ~6 years and will create a fault code when flat).

Thatcham category 1 or 2? Cat 1

 

I'm not sure a better alarm will deter theft. These days cars are often stolen to order so if yours fits, they'll still take it 

 

A tracker maybe a better option as at least the cops can hopefully find whoever took it.

12 minutes ago, langers2k said:

Taken from https://www.thatcham.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/January-2021-OE.pdf

 

It's in the Category 1 section:

 

So that would be:

  R - Remote

  T - Transponder

  S - Software Lock

  U - Ultrasonic
  M - Microwave

  L - Central Locking

 

Anti-tilt motion/jacking up the car? Probably not, easy to check with a jack...

Exterior proximity sensor/protection? Probably not, try kicking it or quickly dropping it off the jack

Door, Boot, Bonnet, Trunk protection? Yup

Battery Back-up siren? Yup (should last ~6 years and will create a fault code when flat).

Thatcham category 1 or 2? Cat 1

 

I'm not sure a better alarm will deter theft. These days cars are often stolen to order so if yours fits, they'll still take it 

 

A tracker maybe a better option as at least the cops can hopefully find whoever took it.

 

Thanks langers2k 

 

Useful information, I just checked in obd eleven & I have ticked "anti theft system inclination sensor" so I'm assuming this is the anti-jack feature & (M=microwave above what you posted) again I'm assuming this must be exterior protection or interior protection with or for the ultrasonic sensors? I will definitely try kicking, jacking & bashing the vehicle, glass (windscreen) (drivers) body-work/wheels & see what happens  Will report my findings...  

So the factory alarm does have the following:

 

Anti-tilt motion/jacking up the car? (if you jack up the car off of the ground slightly) the siren will sound.

Door, Boot, Bonnet, Trunk protection? (open any of these & the siren will sound)

Interior ultrasonic/microwave (move around inside & the siren will sound)

Battery Back-up siren (does the siren have a built in battery backup)

Thatcham category 1 (for insurance purposes)

 

So the factory alarm does NOT have the following:

 

Exterior shock proof (If you bash the windows, windscreen, doors or even alloys the siren does not sound) Which is a shame!

 

If anyone knows how I can enable the horn honk only when the siren is alarmed via OBD Eleven that would help out as I do find the siren on the low side of volume Thanks.

Horn honk output (so the horn will sound along with the siren but only when the alarm siren is going off from an alarm trigger) 

If anyone can share with me the coding/settings via obd eleven, I'd appreciate that. 

when mine was brand spanking, I had a look at a tracker. However the cost for a 'decent' one vs the insurance cost, meant I'd be paying over the odds. Out of interest I did it on a Golf GTD i pinched a reg off from Autotrader and that dropped the premium by about £20 as well.

 

Don't think our cars are on the wanted list

 

If the alarm system has a thatcham 1 certificate, it's a bit excessive to start putting another system in conjunction or on top of.

10 minutes ago, tunedude said:

when mine was brand spanking, I had a look at a tracker. However the cost for a 'decent' one vs the insurance cost, meant I'd be paying over the odds. Out of interest I did it on a Golf GTD i pinched a reg off from Autotrader and that dropped the premium by about £20 as well.

 

Don't think our cars are on the wanted list

 

If the alarm system has a thatcham 1 certificate, it's a bit excessive to start putting another system in conjunction or on top of.

 

It's more so the fact or point that I have tools in the boot for work etc...but also around my area the thief's are jacking up cars & taking the catalytic converter, knowing the factory skoda alarm has the anti theft system "inclination sensor" is peace of mind & I would of liked exterior shock proof but hey! it is what it is! so was just looking for a alternative of making the alarm siren sound with the horn so it's louder.

I wonder if vigorously shaking the car by toing and froing it with the roof rails can set the alarm off

 

On 30/01/2021 at 14:49, tunedude said:

If the alarm system has a thatcham 1 certificate, it's a bit excessive to start putting another system in conjunction or on top of.

 

Well as much as the factory alarm is category 1 with the features listed above, I ended up adding an additional alarm (Clifford 330x3) with exterior shock proof sensor (so if any vehicle or someone hits the car) the Clifford siren will sound along with a duel zone proximity sensor (which if you try the door handles or look through the glass) the Clifford siren will emit a couple of chirps to warn you away (but if you smash the glass or reach inside the interior the Clifford siren will sound along with the factory alarm if the factory interior ultrasonics or factory interior microwave picks you up) It still works along side the factory alarm with door, boot & bonnet protection & I left the interior ultrasonics working on the factory alarm along with the anti-jacking on the factory alarm only! But I also had the horn aux output added to the Clifford alarm so every time the Clifford siren will sound (on alarm only) the horn goes off too which is mega loud & no one will be hanging around   especially as I find the factory alarm siren not that loud, it has the right pitch sound but not loud in-terms of the DB. Factory red Led by drivers door still works & flashes but now with a bright blue Led that is clearly visible.

 

The Clifford alarm was purely added for protection & more so peace of mind (tools or even impact/accident/thief's etc) & with the additional features the Clifford alarm has & supports over the factory alarm it definitely was a no-brainer for me, especially as I have acquired certain tools over the years that have sentimental value to me from being passed down (like certain screwdrivers, cutters etc just not made like they was) an investment to protect my livelihood, even though that is facing hard times at the moment along side most of us that are self-employed due to this pandemic but made me think this is even more of a reason to do it as there is potential for crime to rise.

 

Don't get me wrong if they steel the car, then it's gone (that's what insurance is for) but I would prefer to take precautions to protect my vehicle or equipment that might deter or even install a little bit doubt into a thief's mind which might make them think twice & then they come to the conclusion that it just ain't worth the hassle.   

 

Well so far so good, no false alarms as the alarm fitter did a fantastic, neat & tidy job, showed me everything I needed to know & he spent time setting it up to how I wanted it along with his knowledge to make sure that the alarm will not give any false alarms so when I hear my alarm it should be for a reason.

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On 30/01/2021 at 09:54, langers2k said:

Taken from https://www.thatcham.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/January-2021-OE.pdf

 

It's in the Category 1 section:

 

So that would be:

  R - Remote

  T - Transponder

  S - Software Lock

  U - Ultrasonic
  M - Microwave

  L - Central Locking

 

Anti-tilt motion/jacking up the car? Probably not, easy to check with a jack...

Exterior proximity sensor/protection? Probably not, try kicking it or quickly dropping it off the jack

Door, Boot, Bonnet, Trunk protection? Yup

Battery Back-up siren? Yup (should last ~6 years and will create a fault code when flat).

Thatcham category 1 or 2? Cat 1

 

I'm not sure a better alarm will deter theft. These days cars are often stolen to order so if yours fits, they'll still take it 

 

A tracker maybe a better option as at least the cops can hopefully find whoever took it.

Interesting about the the siren back-up battery. I don't recall anyone mentioning this & the early models are well past 6 years old.

5 hours ago, ords said:

Interesting about the the siren back-up battery. I don't recall anyone mentioning this & the early models are well past 6 years old.

I mean no one has said they've had to replace the battery

The alarm siren has a non-replaceable battery to ensure it can sound if the main battery has been disconnected. At least on a MK2, it has a 'service life' of 6 years (if I remember correctly) but this doesn't mean they fail at immediately at 6 years - mine lasted 9 years.

 

Most people won't notice the battery is flat as I don't think there are any symptoms but it should throw an error code on a scan. Maybe the MQB sirens last longer but it's still just a matter of time before they are likely to fail