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There are manufacturers that could have bigger and heavier and less efficient cars built delivered and first registered.  But unless they have EV,s, mild hybrids and more efficient fuel users or those that are built to give the WLTP and RDE2 results needed they would be fined on every vehicle and losing money.  VW group do not have the materials the batteries or the Partner manufacturers to be able to punt out just any car now.  The South Koreans manufacturing there or in Europe or the America's are better organised still during shortages.  But then they were already getting out of diesels while VW Group were building factories to build diesel hybrids. 

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My MK4 VRS is a company order thought Arval leasing. As a fleet we had 12 cars cancelled by Mercedes after 2 months and told no orders would be accepted until 23, Volvo were not taking orders either. BMW is as you say, 6months minimum.

 

2 colleagues have ordered Hyundai Tucson and 1 a Kia Sportage and all been given 11 month lead times by the leasing company.

 

 I’m just waiting it out as hopefully they will have resolved some of the issues with the Octavia in that time.

2 hours ago, Hairy_Joe said:

I'd say VAG are not alone in having delays. It appears to be across the board. A quick Google search has BMW at approx 9 months, Volvo sold out on certain models for 2023, JLR at 6 months minimum and Merc not accepting orders for certain models.

 

Kia, Hyundai and now Renault are bringing out models with limited build options and a limited number of colours. This is to build them quicker and get them to the showrooms. I can see it with my nearest Hyundai dealer that has at least 50 new cars on the forecourt.

This has been clear for a long time. Still, is 9 months for BMW correct? Also is this for models ordered now or 1 year ago? Anyway, Skoda is still the worst by far and there is no changing my mind. How could you, we all see the facts. I would also rather see Skoda stop orders for Octavia, than making newer orders way before finishing orders waiting 1 year+. :)

Edited by MaximusMeridius

1 hour ago, Ajdolin said:

Hey Audrey dear, still no info on your car?

Unfortunately, no news. I checked with the car dealer on 12 July, the first anniversary 🎂 since placing the order 🤨. Still no build date or any other positive info regarding my order. 😔

3 hours ago, AudreySI said:

I assume that the customers of this model will get it faster than the rest of us our orders. Or maybe it's just another advertising bait by Škoda to lure customers into the waiting line  😀https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/2022-skoda-octavia-140tsi-limited-edition-review/

Reading the link kindly shared, I appreciate specs can vary country-to-country but I don't understand how some countries are offered longer warranty cover.  This report suggests 5 years is offered as standard which can be upgraded to 7 years.  I never understand how in the UK, 3 years is still an acceptable standard? 

 

Sorry to hear about those who are still waiting for their orders.  It is unacceptable and yet, manufacturers continue to bump up the prices twice a year at minimum, due to 'costs'.  And yet, whilst Skoda production in quarter 1 in 2022 is down 1.9% and deliveries are down 25.4% compared to last year, sales revenue is up by 1.0%.  It is speculation but I wonder if that has something to do with hearing more and more that new orders were being built ahead of the extremely patient customers.     

Just called into my local friendly Skoda Dealer. I got a build week of week 44.

1 hour ago, LSport said:

It is speculation but I wonder if that has something to do with hearing more and more that new orders were being built ahead of the extremely patient customers. 

Bingo! Been saying that for half a year now on this forum. Maybe people will start to believe me now, when we wait 1 year+. :)

Edited by MaximusMeridius

6 minutes ago, MaximusMeridius said:

Bingo! Been saying that for half a year now on this forum. Maybe people will start to believe me now when we wait for one year+. :)

Yes, this happens when the demand (over) exceeds the supply, and the manufacturer can choose from the bulk and decide on orders with a higher profit margin. From the company's profitability point of view, this is the smartest strategy they can pursue. We, the ones waiting, are the collateral damage of this business strategy. 

2 hours ago, LSport said:

Reading the link kindly shared, I appreciate specs can vary country-to-country but I don't understand how some countries are offered longer warranty cover.  This report suggests 5 years is offered as standard which can be upgraded to 7 years.  I never understand how in the UK, 3 years is still an acceptable standard? 

 

Sorry to hear about those who are still waiting for their orders.  It is unacceptable and yet, manufacturers continue to bump up the prices twice a year at minimum, due to 'costs'.  And yet, whilst Skoda production in quarter 1 in 2022 is down 1.9% and deliveries are down 25.4% compared to last year, sales revenue is up by 1.0%.  It is speculation but I wonder if that has something to do with hearing more and more that new orders were being built ahead of the extremely patient customers.     

Skoda in UK are down 30.7% according to SMMT sales figures

Jan-June 2021 32,906 Skoda registered

Jan-June 2022 22,805 Skoda registered

 

https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/


In UK Jan-June 2022 14.4% of cars where pure electric, with another 17.8% hybrid or plug in hybrid, 18.3% mild hybrid, and 43.8% petrol and remaining 5.7% diesel.  
 

If you look at what Skoda UK offer (only the Enyaq for the 14.4% who want electric, virtually unobtainable hybrids for next 17.8% etc), it confirms they are so out of touch that not surprising their market share in UK down to just 2.84%. (Below MG and close to half of Hyundai, and fraction of Kia). Companies that offer much longer warranties.

 

 

Edited by SurreyJohn

Am about 11 weeks into my supposed 44 week wait now. Got another update from the dealer this week just to tell me that I’ve not been assigned a build week yet

11 hours ago, LSport said:

Reading the link kindly shared, I appreciate specs can vary country-to-country but I don't understand how some countries are offered longer warranty cover.  This report suggests 5 years is offered as standard which can be upgraded to 7 years.  I never understand how in the UK, 3 years is still an acceptable standard? 

Here in Australia, where that story originated, it is true that longer and longer warranties are being offered.

My 2021 Skoda had 5 with possibility to extend to 7.

My 2015 VW had 3 but I was able to buy an extension to 8 for $2000.

I can remember that in my first few decades of car ownership, i.e. the 70s, 80s and 90s, the norm was 1 year.

 

I think the move to longer warranties came when Korean entrants such as Kia and Hyundai offered them, over 20 years ago, to overcome their lack of brand recognition.

Over time this has led to virtually all companies doing the same to remain competitive, with the notable exception of luxury brands such as Porsche, which are still stuck at 3 years, 

 

Then there is the extreme of Mitsubishi who now offer 10 years: https://www.drive.com.au/news/mitsubishi-launches-10-year-warranty-but-there-s-a-catch/https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/owners/diamond-advantage/warranty.html

 

 

 

All of you lucky ppl who got your hands on the car keys 😊 - any paint job issues?

Any paint / quality control issue missed at the factory before the protective covers are applied can be missed as the car is signed for at arrival at a dealership.   As it is unwrapped and prepped and given a PDI then any fault or issue should be identified.  No customer should be finding faults to a prepped car.   Sadly they do because of PDI,s done by Stevie Wonder INC. 

36 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Any paint / quality control issue missed at the factory before the protective covers are applied can be missed as the car is signed for at arrival at a dealership.   As it is unwrapped and prepped and given a PDI then any fault or issue should be identified.  No customer should be finding faults to a prepped car.   Sadly they do because of PDI,s done by Stevie Wonder INC. 

Stevie Wonder Inc 🙊

This is production week of my order. Hoping to hear something from dealer or leasing company next week.

 

edit: Or possibly it is postponed.. 🤪

Edited by KpaL

1 hour ago, KpaL said:

This is production week of my order. Hoping to hear something from dealer or leasing company next week.

 

edit: Or possibly it is postponed.. 🤪

Fingers crossed it doesn’t go to the parking lot as many others 🤞

On 15/07/2022 at 16:58, LSport said:

I don't understand how some countries are offered longer warranty cover.  This report suggests 5 years is offered as standard which can be upgraded to 7 years.  I never understand how in the UK, 3 years is still an acceptable standard? 

This is unfortunately normal.

In Poland there is standard 2 years warranty for Skoda and VW, but this can be extended to 4 years (in VW i think even to 5). Seat however has 5 years warranty as standard here since some time, before they had 4 years. Remember comparing this to other countries 8 years ago, when i got Leon, and in majority of European countries Seat was offering 2 years only.

Stupid thing is, that you can only extend warranty when configuring the car. I got ex-demo, which came with 3 year warranty (only 60k km), and would like to extend it to 4 years, but it's impossible 😞

Salespeople in the UK will tell customers that you can only buy the 4 or 5 year extended warranty when ordering / configuring a car.  They lie though or who ever trains them talks nonsense as the extended warranty can be added up to the car being first registered.  Ps.  The UK has always been a European country and still is, just not in the EU anymore.  3 year Manufacturers Warranty from Skoda.  

Edited by roottoot

Here in Australia it was possible to buy an extended warranty any time up to the expiry of the first one. I did that at 3 years on my 2015 VW and bought an extra 5 years for $2424 in 2018.

I have had only 1 claim since then - a replacement starter switch that would otherwise have cost, with labour, $379.

On 15/07/2022 at 15:58, LSport said:

Reading the link kindly shared, I appreciate specs can vary country-to-country but I don't understand how some countries are offered longer warranty cover.  This report suggests 5 years is offered as standard which can be upgraded to 7 years.  I never understand how in the UK, 3 years is still an acceptable standard? 


It is what the manufacturer thinks they can get away with versus the competition.  Those that want to increase market share make them more attractive by offering longer warranties.  Short term, they are struggling to meet all the orders, so not likely to increase the offer.

 

Best in UK (if want long warranty buy one of these instead)

Kia 7 years, 100,000 miles

MG 7 years, 80,000 miles

SsangYong and Hyundai 5 years unlimited miles

Subaru : 5 years, 100,000 miles

Toyota and Lexus : 3 years, but with every annual service, extended free each year upto 10 years.

 

 

The dealer told me that they picked my Octavia from the parking lot, to restart working on it, and it received a motor number in the system. Toady I succeeded adding it in the app. Screenshot_20220717_115717_cz.skodaauto.connect.thumb.jpg.cb61f48fd83e5444522a34bc2a4e8166.jpg

13 minutes ago, geosedra said:

The dealer told me that they picked my Octavia from the parking lot, to restart working on it, and it received a motor number in the system. Toady I succeeded adding it in the app. Screenshot_20220717_115717_cz.skodaauto.connect.thumb.jpg.cb61f48fd83e5444522a34bc2a4e8166.jpg

How do they know all that, that it has  been taken from the parking lot? Everytime I check with my dealer, there is no info, I have VIN, but still unavailable in app. 
Nevertheless gz on the upcoming delivery 👍

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