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Hi all,

Doing head gasket this weekend does anyone know where I can get a decent set of new head bolts from I already have the gasket but was told best to swop out bolts as well ???

You HAVE to replace the bolts, it's not optional, best to buy PD150 bolts too, they're stronger.

8 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

You HAVE to replace the bolts, it's not optional, best to buy PD150 bolts too, they're stronger.

 

Only his car is a 1.4 mpi so none of that is relevant.

 

You don't need to replace the head bolts on this engine but if you really want to you can get them on ebay.

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Thanks for that guys 1 last thing I was watching a tutorial and it says the head bolt settings are 20nm is that correct as it seems a low setting ???

7 hours ago, TMB said:

 

Only his car is a 1.4 mpi so none of that is relevant.

 

You don't need to replace the head bolts on this engine but if you really want to you can get them on ebay.

 

I didn't know because he didn't say, I misremembered him as a VRS owner, I would have thought that much was bleedin' obvious from my reply.

 

Fascist!

1 hour ago, sepulchrave said:

 

I didn't know because he didn't say, I misremembered him as a VRS owner, I would have thought that much was bleedin' obvious from my reply.

 

Fascist!

Big hint - Some of can see and do use the user information pane, which clearly sow Stewart as having a 1.4mpi.

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Haynes has this to say about the cylinder head bolts and nuts:

Cylinder head bolts: Stage 1 .............................................................................................. 20Nm

Stage 2 .............................................................................................. Angle-tighten a further 90°

Stage 3 ............................................................................................... Angle-tighten a further 90°

 

Cylinder head nuts................................................................................ 20Nm

 

So the bolts get two sequential quarter-turns after the 20Nm stage.

The nuts just get the single torque to 20Nm.

 

I seem to remember there are different length bolts in some positions too, so be careful not to muddle them up.

 

 

 

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Thanks as always for the advice guys :)

 

8 hours ago, Wino said:

I seem to remember there are different length bolts in some positions too, so be careful not to muddle them up.

 

Yeah, and washers under certain bolts.

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Tightening order....

 

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Tappet settings (they are hydraulic but have an initial setting procedure)....

 

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Head skim planned?

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Yes ive got it booked for a head skim on the weekend must admit though im a bit concerned about this setting the valves im worried its a bit past my skill set lol :(

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Will I have to remove all the valves out of the head for them to skim it or can it be done as is ???

20 minutes ago, Stewartasb said:

Will I have to remove all the valves out of the head for them to skim it or can it be done as is ???

 

As is.

48 minutes ago, Stewartasb said:

Will I have to remove all the valves out of the head for them to skim it or can it be done as is ???

 

Didn't need to remove mine but I got them to fit new valve stem seals.

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Hi all once again thanks for the help again head gasket is all changed and done now seems to be fine good job as well as when I came to drain the oil I actually had pure coolant drip out first and the oil was chocolate milkshake bearing in mind it was only changed 3 months ago the gasket was shot.

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Hi again just thought I would post the costs of doing this in case anyone is considering it and wants to know the costs involved.

victor reinz head gasket kit this included a new gasket for the rocker cover plus the stem valve seals and the exhaust manifold new seals plus the head gasket itself £70

new head bolt set £25

change of oil £32

oil filter £12

head reskim plus stem valve seal fitting £80

total £219 and basically 1 day to strip took head to machine shop and they skimmed and did seals recollected that day, day 2 rebuild and reset of hydraulic valves.

Just for comparison I asked my local garage beforehand and including them getting the skim etc they quoted me £760 erm rather have the saving and know its been done correctly :)

 

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hey all,

Just a quick question now ive been driving around do I need to check the torques on the head bolts or just leave alone now ???

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Leave them alone. There's no way I know of to check torque on bolts that have been torque plus angle tightened. What number would you even check them against?

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Got you cheers wino my fault I was reading something about checking headbolts I will keep well away promise lol 😆

2 hours ago, Stewartasb said:

Got you cheers wino my fault I was reading something about checking headbolts I will keep well away promise lol 😆

 

It used to be done on head bolts that were torqued normally but not with angled tightened bolts.

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Cheers tmb ok last question i promise lol any idea where I can get a new throttle body gasket from cant find one anywhere ???

2 hours ago, Stewartasb said:

Cheers tmb ok last question i promise lol any idea where I can get a new throttle body gasket from cant find one anywhere ???

 

If you are stuck I have a very good genuine used one you can have for nothing. Just let me know.

 

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I cant find one anywhere mate tbh I wanted to do it straight off but could not find one let me know bud I don't mind paying you for it 👍

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