Will a 16 inch spare fit in place of a 17 inch wheel ?

[Donald1]

Hello

 

I am looking at buying a 2020 skoda superb 1.5 tsi se technology 17 inch wheels.

It does not come with a spare wheel.

I currently have a 16 inch spare from a 2018 skoda octavia mk3 and wonder if the studs are the same so i could use it as a temp spare wheel.

 

Any comments appreciated. 

[Gizmo]

Yes, when you order a spare wheel it would come with a 205/55/16" spare wheel.

 

The PCD etc will be identical.

[Donald1]

Ok thats great to know, much appreciated.

[Donald1]

I have just thought on 1 more question.

 

Does a skoda superb which comes with a tyre repair kit come with a jack and wheel brace?

 

Thanks again

[Gizmo]

Not normally no, as you have no need for them.

[Donald1]

ok. Thanks again

[DeeDah]

I'm not sure if Gizmo is correct, most tyre inflation kits where some kind of latex is put into the tyre to seal it before inflating requires the wheel to be removed.

Usually  the kit includes a bottle of latex, a valve core remover,  and a compressor.

My old honda had the same junk, never used it bought a second hand full size wheel and tyre second hand for £20, no brainer.

Anyway back to the procedure, you get a puncture that hasn't wrecked the tyre, the car is jacked up and the wheel removed, the valve core is removed and the latex is  squezzed through the valve stem, the wheel is then rolled about to distribute the latex, the valve core is then replaced, and the tyre inflated to it's normal pressure.

It is only a get you home fix with speed limited to approx 40mph and a limited distance, can't remember how far.

There are instructions in the owners manual under "Puncture repair kit" slightly different procedure but basically the same.

Yes you do need a jack and a compressor.

 

Hope this helps

[Donald1]

Thanks for the info. I will keep the 16 inch spare from my octavia (the car originally had a repair kit) and leave the original repair kit alone. If it sounds like the new car does not come with a jack i will keep this also from the octavia.

 

Thanks Again

Edited 19 April, 2021 by Donald1

[DeeDah]

Hi, Donald1 it's me again, Yes Gizmo is right, I have just took delivery of a 2020 Superb SE and it came with an emergency spare wheel,  it's not one of those skinny narrow tyres, it's almost full size.

But what is puzzling me is that the Superb as standard comes with 215/55R17 wheels and tyres but the spare is a 205/55R16, with  different diameters, I queired this on Monday afternoon with Skoda Sheffield, and they confirmed it was the correct wheel and tyre.

I'm not saying it won't get you home, but there is a difference of 36mm in the diameter of the tyres, which is why it is limited to 50mph, not sure of any distance restriction.

If it was on an Octavia fitted with the standard 205/55r16's it would be classed as a full spare with no restrictions. obviously a cost cutting exercise as the two tyres have a rough price difference of £40, I'm hoping never to have to use it, especially on the front axle, I'd rather have a 17 inch steel wheel with a cheap 215/55r17 tyre on it.

But yea, save your money and fit the Octavia wheel just remember the 50mph limit because of the different diameter and tread patch size, you'll see why if you ever have use one on the front.

Cheers Terry

 

[Donald1]

Hi Terry

 

That is interesting to know. I must admit i would prefer a 17 inch spare wheel for my 2020 superb but as i already have a 16 inch i dont see the point in spending the money on a 17 for all the times (if ever) i need to use it.

 

I double checked the size of the spare i have in my octavia that i am going to keep and it is indeed also a 205/55R16.

 

Thanks again

Donald

[DeeDah]

Dead right mate, as a Yorkshire man, we are second in line to the Scots for being tight fisted and wanting value for money.

I'm sure you've seen the Plusnet adverts, eh up.

BTW the 1.5tsi is a revelation after having driven a diesel for the last 13 years, thought I'd gone deaf so quiet pulling up at lights, (I'd switch off the stop/start)

and the Adaptive Cruise is great, I'm sure you'll love the car.

 

Cheers Terry

[Angelo Amato]

For the record, I bought a standard 6.5x16" steel rim and fitted a 215/60/16 tyre as on the base model cars.

 

Fits in the spare wheel recess well and does lift the carpet up ever so slightly (non-variable boot floor) but I'd rather have a decent spare as was intending to go aboard in it.

 

I was go to line the boot floor with say a layer of 10mm thick insulation around the spare wheel to lift the carpet up slightly but I got a boot liner and never bothered me.

 

Angelo

[DeeDah]

Hi Angelo, that's another good alternative, only 4mm smaller diameter than the standard 215/55r17.  a new tyre

Only the same as running a old worn tyre with a set of newish ones.

The online wheel and tyre calculators are great for comparing different sizes.

https://www.rotawheelsuk.com/tyre-size-calculator/width/6.5"/rr-offset/et30/rr-diameter/16".html

 

By the way Donald, if the Superb came with an inflator kit, I think the latex has a shelf life of 3 yrs, then they advise throwing it and buying another bottle,

My wifes car also had a latex bottle of gunk (out of date) and it was cheaper to buy one of the aerosol repair cans at around £7-£8, but did eventually get a second hand full size for her.

 

Cheers Terry

[MartiniB]

why everyone focusing on inches of disk?
while more important is what size of tire is mounted on it.

 

16" can be used even on 280/272, which have bigger brakes,
just install spare wheel on the right place - rear axle
yes, double procedure if damaged front, but it's lot safer to leave normal tire on the front axle

 

On 14/04/2018 at 08:09, MartiniB said:

replaced stock 205/55r16 by full diameter 205/65r16
weren't easy put it in cause back side plastic

 

diameter comparison to 215/55r17 and 225/55r17:
205/55r16 _ -5.3% _ -6.7%, this huge size difference cancels usage of cruise control
205/65r16 _ +0.8% _ -0.7%, not tested yet

 

 

 

 

  

[Carlston]

23 hours ago, Angelo Amato said:

For the record, I bought a standard 6.5x16" steel rim and fitted a 215/60/16 tyre as on the base model cars.

 

Fits in the spare wheel recess well and does lift the carpet up ever so slightly (non-variable boot floor) but I'd rather have a decent spare as was intending to go aboard in it.

 

I was go to line the boot floor with say a layer of 10mm thick insulation around the spare wheel to lift the carpet up slightly but I got a boot liner and never bothered me.

 

Angelo

 

If you had fitted the 215/60R16 tyre to a 6Jx16 rim, your lifted carpet would have been about 6mm lower. That's because the width of a 215/60R16 tyre fitted to a 6.5J rim is 221mm wide, but fitted to a 0.5" narrower 6J rim it's only about 215mm wide.

 

215/60 R16

16

99V XL

8.7

664

221

6.0-6.5-7.5

C

B

70 dB

 

 

195/65R16, 205/60R16, or 205/65R16 fitted to a 6J rim (or maybe even a 6.5J rim) and the carpet may have been completely flush.

 

Alcar 6665 6Jx16 ET43 5/112 57.1 Steel Rim (from the Karoq)

https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-6665#21298241

 

 

A 205/60R16 fitted to a 6.5J rim is about the same width as a 215/60R16 fitted to a 6J rim, ie. both about 215mm wide.

 

Notice is the chart below that a 205/55R16 is 214mm wide when fitted to a 6.5J rim (the size that Skoda sell as a spare for the Superb MK3...although it's actually an Octavia MK3 spare wheel...at 6.5Jx16 ET46).

 

Maybe a 215/60R16 fitted to a 6J rim would fit with the carpet flush ???

 

Tire Size	Rim Diameter	Load Speed Index	Tread Depth (mm)	Overall Diameter (mm)	Overall Width (mm)	Approved Rim Width Range (inch)
185/60 R16	16	86H	7.9	628	189	5.0-5.5-6.5	C	B		70 dB
185/55 R16	16	87H XL	8.3	610	194	5.0-6-6.5	C	B		70 dB
185/50 R16	16	81H	7.5	592	194	5,0-6-6,5	C	B		70 dB
195/60 R16	16	89H	8.7	640	201	5.5-6-7.0	C	B		70 dB
195/55 R16	16	91V XL	8.4	620	201	5.5-6-7.0	C	B		70 dB
195/55 R16	16	87V	8.4	620	201	5.5-6-7.0	C	B		70 dB
195/55 R16	16	87H	8.4	620	201	5.5-6-7.0	C	B		70 dB
195/50 R16	16	88V XL	8.3	602	201	5.5-6-7.0	C	B		70 dB
195/45 R16	16	84V XL	7.7	582	195	6.0-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/65 R16	16	95V	8.6	672	209	5.5-6-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/60 R16	16	92V	8.6	652	209	5.5-6-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/60 R16	16	92H	8.6	652	209	5.5-6-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/60 R16	16	96V XL	8.6	652	209	5.5-6-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/55 R16	16	91V	8.5	632	214	5.5-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/55 R16	16	91H	8.5	632	214	5.5-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/55 R16	16	94V XL	8.5	632	214	5.5-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/55 R16	16	94H XL	8.5	632	214	5.5-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/50 R16	16	87V	8.4	612	214	5.5-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
205/45 R16	16	83H	8.2	590	206	6,5-7-7,5	E	B		70 dB
215/65 R16	16	98H	8.7	686	221	6.0-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
215/60 R16	16	99H XL	8.7	664	221	6.0-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
215/60 R16	16	95H	8.7	664	221	6.0-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
215/60 R16	16	99V XL	8.7	664	221	6.0-6.5-7.5	C	B		70 dB
215/55 R16	16	93W	8.6	642	226	6.0-7-7.5	C	B		70 dB
215/55 R16	16	97V XL	8.6	642	226	6.0-7-7.5	C	B		70 dB
215/45 R16	16	90V XL	7.9	600	213	7.0-7-8.0	C	B		70 dB
215/45 R16	16	86V	7.9	600	213	7.0-7-8.0	C	B		70 dB
225/60 R16	16	98W	7.9	676	228	6.0-6.5-8.0	C	B		70 dB
225/55 R16	16	95V	8.7	654	233	6.0-7-8.0	C	B		70 dB

 

https://www.toyo.co.uk/tire/pattern/proxes-cf2

 

Edited 21 April, 2021 by Carlston