Okay, so this may seem a little dumb, and everyone will probably tell me if you search I'll find answers, but everything I've found so far is very vague.

 

I'm wondering exactly what parts are interchangable between the VAG cars? I have a PFL Fabia 59, which I believe uses the PQ24 chassis, and after 2010 they use the PQ25 chassis? What exactly are the differences, and what can be interchanged still between these different chassis and years, and what cars are compatible to be changed with my year car? I understand the Polo and Ibiza parts can be used as long as they're the same year, but what about the A1? I've found a set of used lowering springs for a 2014 A1, but I don't want to spend the money if they aren't going to fit to my chassis. Doesn't the MK1 Fabia use the same suspension set up as mine? Only strange thing I've found is that the wishbones on mine are the type that house all 3 bushes, as opposed to the MK1 type that have the weird wishbone set up where the arm houses into a bush that sits in the subframe, does this mean I have the newer chassis or is this just something that was changed from the MK1 to Mk2 anyway? Any help would be much appreciated! 

Only the first year or so of mk2s had the same wishbone style as mk1. 

27 minutes ago, Wino said:

Only the first year or so of mk2s had the same wishbone style as mk1. 

 

Ah, I see, hate that design on wishbone, was so glad to see that mine didn't have that type!

4 hours ago, Coops164 said:

 

Ah, I see, hate that design on wishbone, was so glad to see that mine didn't have that type!

 

No idea why, the early wishbone handles much better when polybushed.

5 hours ago, Coops164 said:

 

Ah, I see, hate that design on wishbone, was so glad to see that mine didn't have that type!

Yeah it was a rubbish initial bush design, and awkward to replace them; worst of both worlds.  

 

Fraid I don't know anything about compatibility with 2014 A1 stuff; someone will hopefully know. 

May be worth looking on the 7 Zap Skoda and Audi sites as there are compatabilty overviews in there.

Okay, different question, will 2014 Polo springs fit into a 2009 Fabia strut? So basically, springs from the PQ25 platform onto struts from a PQ24?

Only someone that for some reason has fitted a diff cars part to theirs would know that.

 

Whats wrong with using Fabia parts ?

 

Mk2 fabia uses PQ24 platform

Edited 29 April, 20215 yr by UrbanPanzer

It's more due to saving money on second hand parts, I know, reliability wise and everything second hand isn't ideal, but I've pretty much always used second hand parts on my cars when it comes to modifying. (Least I'm not chopping the springs )

There's a member on here called @Carlston who is extremely good at researching the details of wheels, springs and other suspension bits, and finding best equivalences between OE and aftermarket parts. If you're lucky he may apply his impressive skills towards helping you.

29 minutes ago, Coops164 said:

It's more due to saving money on second hand parts, I know, reliability wise and everything second hand isn't ideal, but I've pretty much always used second hand parts on my cars when it comes to modifying. (Least I'm not chopping the springs )

 

A set of new springs really isn't that expensive, you can get Eibachs for sensible money, guaranteed to fit and perform much better than standard.

1 hour ago, Wino said:

There's a member on here called @Carlston who is extremely good at researching the details of wheels, springs and other suspension bits, and finding best equivalences between OE and aftermarket parts. If you're lucky he may apply his impressive skills towards helping you.

 

This "VW Online Parts Catalogue" is great for finding OEM part numbers.

http://www.oemepc.com

 

autodoc is great for finding aftermarket parts

https://www.autodoc.co.uk

 

Edited 29 April, 20215 yr by Carlston

Okay, another question, Ibiza 6j coilovers on a 2009 PF Fabia? Would these fit? Top mounting is a single nut, not sure what else would need to be the same to seat correctly. Any help is much appreciated!

On 29/04/2021 at 20:51, sepulchrave said:

 

A set of new springs really isn't that expensive, you can get Eibachs for sensible money, guaranteed to fit and perform much better than standard.

Eibachs were a dealer fit option on these right? Any idea wheres the best spot to get them?

48 minutes ago, DieselMonte said:

Eibachs were a dealer fit option on these right? Any idea wheres the best spot to get them?

 

They were, I would imagine Damien @DpmPerformance would be helpful.

4 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

They were, I would imagine Damien @DpmPerformance would be helpful.

I'll shoot them a message then, thanks.

On 29/04/2021 at 19:14, UrbanPanzer said:

Only someone that for some reason has fitted a diff cars part to theirs would know that.

 

Whats wrong with using Fabia parts ?

 

Mk2 fabia uses PQ24 platform

Even though the front half of your fabia is a PQ25?

5 minutes ago, AMD87 said:

Even though the front half of your fabia is a PQ25?

Wait, the rear beam on these is the same as the mk1? So if for talks sake I got a mk1 vRS for parts for my own mk1, I could put the disc rear beam into my mk2? Sorry for hijacking the thread!

6 minutes ago, DieselMonte said:

Wait, the rear beam on these is the same as the mk1? So if for talks sake I got a mk1 vRS for parts for my own mk1, I could put the disc rear beam into my mk2? Sorry for hijacking the thread!

 

Why on earth would you want to do that?

53 minutes ago, DieselMonte said:

Wait, the rear beam on these is the same as the mk1? So if for talks sake I got a mk1 vRS for parts for my own mk1, I could put the disc rear beam into my mk2? Sorry for hijacking the thread!

Yep the rear on the facelift is a PQ24 and the front is a PQ25 but PQ25 rear axles fit but they sit 15mm wider than the PQ24 axles. 
 

One of the main reasons I struggled to get B16s for mine because you can get PQ25 B16s and PQ24 B16’s but you can’t get half and half as it’s not “tuv approved” according to bilstein. 

48 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

Why on earth would you want to do that?

Wider rear axle better stability. 

6 minutes ago, AMD87 said:

Wider rear axle better stability. 

 

Read it again, he wants to put the narrower Mark 1 axle on a Mark 2.

 

So I repeat, why on earth would you want to do that?

5 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

Read it again, he wants to put the narrower Mark 1 axle on a Mark 2.

 

So I repeat, why on earth would you want to do that?

So he can ditch his drums and fit discs. 

30 minutes ago, AMD87 said:

So he can ditch his drums and fit discs. 

 

Pointless.

2 hours ago, AMD87 said:

Even though the front half of your fabia is a PQ25?

 

May well be, but it was originally a PQ24 and from 2010 just a hybrid of both.............. and I don't think "anyone" really knows which parts of which it uses, the main option with PQ25 was for 4wd which Skoda has never offered,

 

In all honesty not really bothered as I'm not trying to fit mondeo parts to my fiesta!!....

Edited 4 May, 20215 yr by UrbanPanzer

3 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

 

Why on earth would you want to do that?

I'm not going out of my way to convert my car to a disc rear end. I've been keeping an eye out for a parts car to fix up my mk1, believe it or not i've seen two vRS come up. The first was the car I bought the parts from, came a hair away from buying the rest of it but our trailer was being used so that one fell through. Another one has come up but no response from the seller sadly. The way I see it, if the opportunity arose I would be stupid not to. 

 

3 hours ago, AMD87 said:

Yep the rear on the facelift is a PQ24 and the front is a PQ25 but PQ25 rear axles fit but they sit 15mm wider than the PQ24 axles. 

 

I take it the PQ25 rear is from mk3 fabias and the like?

Interesting, I didnt know the pq25 rear was wider, aside from stability it might help fill out the rear arches. If a disc and a drum pq24 rear is the same width then that would still be fine. After doing the few odds and ends on the suspension the car feels pretty good at speed anyway.

2 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

 

Pointless.

Indeed.