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DSG Changes from Normal to Sport when restarting.

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Don’t know if anyone else has had this issue? On a number of occasions now, when I’ve left the car for a couple of hours, on returning and starting it, the DSG restarts in Sport mode rather than Normal. Is shows it’s in S on the dash, but In the Mode selection on the Columbus, this shows Normal is selected. Weird, huh? I have to change the mode to say Eco and then back to Normal to get it to change back. It’s not a massive problem, but it’d be nice to have it fixed. Anyone have a solution? Of course, it’s now two months out of warranty.. 😖

That is really strange... You might consider yourself lucky based on fact that there are few people around on this forum who wish their 280 would restart in Sport mode😁😎

If its on dash only and not on head unit something is steering me towards issue with gear lever/selector. But i might be wrong...

I had gear knob replaced under warranty 18 months ago and then i wasn't able to take it out of P at all as it still thought its in gear....

That's the only logical explanation... But that's just my assumption

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LOL. Well, it’ll start in sport mode if that’s where it was left when I parked it or Individual mode is set to Sport too, but this is only when it’s in say in Normal, Eco or Individual and DCC and Steering are on sport but DSG on normal etc. It could be a gear selector issue I guess; it that a software or hardware problem or both? I’ll check tomorrow to see if I can consciously replicate the issue, as its quite intermittent and occasionally random at present. 

 

 

Just to clarify, DSG mode (D or S in the dash) is not to be confused with the car's Drive Mode (Eco, Normal, Sport, Individual), it merely defines the shifting characteristics of the DSG irrespectively of any other car setting/mode.

If the DSG starts in "S" indeed, which is weird I agree, you don't need to go through modes to put it back to "D",  a simple flick back of the gear knob suffices to switch from D to S and back as you probably know. IF, flicking the knob doesn't do the trick of changing from S1 to D1, then definitely an issue.

As far as I recall, pre-MY19 cars are restarting in the last Drive mode they were before turned off, (Eco, Normal, Sport, Individual) which is something post-MY19 owners are envying usually, but the DSG is, and always has been, restarting in D1, never S1.

Sounds like you are pulling the gear selector back when selecting d and putting it into sport mode.

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Thanks guys.

Newbie69. Yes. When this occurs and the car starts, it shows S in the dash and drives in S (revs are up, held in gear, need to manually change up) even though I’ve left it in D mode when I parked up. AFAIK, it is just the DSG which has been changed, not DCC or other changes. The gear selector is in D. I have to change the drive mode, from what’s shown as being in Normal on the Columbus, to Comfort, Sport, Eco, Individual - doesn’t matter which - and then back to Normal to correct it. I have not tried moving the gear selector to S and back to D; I’ll try that. 
KennyD. No, I can assure you the selector is in D. 

50 minutes ago, numskull said:

Thanks guys.

Newbie69. Yes. When this occurs and the car starts, it shows S in the dash and drives in S (revs are up, held in gear, need to manually change up) even though I’ve left it in D mode when I parked up. AFAIK, it is just the DSG which has been changed, not DCC or other changes. The gear selector is in D. I have to change the drive mode, from what’s shown as being in Normal on the Columbus, to Comfort, Sport, Eco, Individual - doesn’t matter which - and then back to Normal to correct it. I have not tried moving the gear selector to S and back to D; I’ll try that. 
KennyD. No, I can assure you the selector is in D. 


Hehe, why do I get the idea you have been driving the car exclusively in D mode for all these years? :tongueout:   Or if having driven it in Sport you've only done so by setting the entire car in Sport mode?

Again, as I said in my first message, there is a differentiation between the DSG's D and S modes, these ONLY concern the shifting patterns and gear holding limits, nothing to do with car's modes. The "correct" way to switch between DSG modes is directly flicking back the lever while in D position, not via the car's modes, this is an indirect and un-necessarily complicated approach.
You can be having the car set in Eco, Comfort or Normal (for the respective DCC and engine response behaviour), while at the same time having the DSG in S in order to hold on to gears longer and exploit the power if desired, for example while an overtaking. This can/should be achieved by this instant flicking i describe, not changing drive modes.

Furthermore, there is a dedicated P, R, N, and D position for the DSG lever, but there is no separate S position as you are assuming in your post. The same position can have the DSG set in either D or S, and you switch between them by flicking the lever back briefly (it will always return to the position marked as "D" in the console panel, but it will show "S" in the dash).

I bet this is what Kenny R meant too, not that you are putting the DSG lever in "S" position, as there is simply no "S" position, but that during your moving of the lever from P to D you are maybe pushing a little bit more and the lever enters D position and further flicks back (only takes a little bit of force) and so switches to S1. Which actually sounds like the only logical explanation for the car to be in S after turn off, happens to me too sometimes if I am really in a rush during say a reverse maneuver, i can pull the lever all the way from R to D and a further back, then this spring-movement is engaged and it switches to S.

I'm eager to hear if that was the case or if you were aware of all what I write already and something else is going on.

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I’ve reviewed my behaviour this afternoon and yep, as you both suspected, it’s completely OE! I have been pulling the gear lever back too hard and the DSG has correctly been going into S. What a twit I am! So thanks for your help and patience.

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