Hallo everyone im new here, 

recently i have changed the clutches and having a strange thing happening ,

when i start to move forward when in S mode the clutch seems like not engaging and slipping in first gear. 
I cannot upload a video as it larger than 10mb! 

Don't the new clutches need the clamping pressure calibrating after fitting? I seem to remember reading about this on the VCDS (Ross-Tech) website.

I dont know really thats why im asking. 

Best have whoever did the work sort it out if they have all the gear and more than just an idea.

 

Or is it yourself that did the job?

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So what have you, a DQ200 7 speed twin dry clutch DSG or s wet clutch DSG? 

Its the dry , the dealer did it , but they say it is supposed to be like this ! I don’t think so

If it is the Master Technician says that is how it is supposed to be then strange there are millions around not like that.

 

Best get the car back to them to have the fault fixed.  

 

How old is your car and how many miles on it, and how much were you charged for the job?

 2 years warranty on their work / part i hope. 

Was it like this before the change? Does it do it in all modes or just S mode? Why did you have to change the clutches?

It wasn’t before i change the clutches, i changed because they were slipping between gears. Only on S mode

@Chriskoda2010

 

It would be handy to post the whole story in the first post.

 

What engine is this DSG fitted to. 

What year of car and why the clutch pack needed replaced.    How many miles has the car done. 

 

If it is from 2013-2015 was it one that require Service Campaign '34H5' which was a Software Update called in 2017?

 

That was done because of possible failures due to heat / pressure and leaks that could occur. 

Yoo , 

i have a skoda ocatvia mk3 fl 2017 1.4 150hp dq200 dry clutch , i changed the clutches before the warranty Expires just because it was slipping between changing 3 and 4 and 5 6 , and it had a noise when changing also. 
so now i have this problem or I don’t know what it is! So im asking what to do and why this **** happening after changing the clutch

5 hours ago, Chriskoda2010 said:

I cannot upload a video as it larger than 10mb!

Put it on YouTube, and deep link to here.

It depends on what you call clutch slip and what is acceptable. There will always be clutch slip in first gear as it will work between bite and slip. Pretty much the same  as a manual would. You don't just dump the clutch when setting off as the engine would bog down and most likely stall.

Although I would ask if the dsg was reset as part of the change though as it might just need a reset.

3 hours ago, Chriskoda2010 said:

It wasn’t before i change the clutches, i changed because they were slipping between gears. Only on S mode

Has the new clutch pack cured the slipping between gears?

@Chriskoda2010

Good that you did it before the Warranty Expired and you are still covered if they did it wrong and have to do it right.

Better still if you paid anything towards it.

 

The reason it is not normal is because there are Clutch Slip issues and there are TPI's covering them. 

 

Not only Mk3 Fabia, it covers various models in the VW Group.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/439395-the-story-of-the-famous-dq200-clutch-slip/page/15

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/439395-the-story-of-the-famous-dq200-clutch-slip/page/9

 

PS

As far as not being able to not just floor them in S.

What tosh, you can put the TC / ASR off and with good tyres and grip absolutely floor them.  As many do that do to the 1/4 mile strip with a car with a DQ200.

Edited 5 November, 20214 yr by roottoot

2 hours ago, roottoot said:

@Chriskoda2010

Good that you did it before the Warranty Expired and you are still covered if they did it wrong and have to do it right.

Better still if you paid anything towards it.

 

The reason it is not normal is because there are Clutch Slip issues and there are TPI's covering them. 

 

Not only Mk3 Fabia, it covers various models in the VW Group.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/439395-the-story-of-the-famous-dq200-clutch-slip/page/15

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/439395-the-story-of-the-famous-dq200-clutch-slip/page/9

 

PS

As far as not being able to not just floor them in S.

What tosh, you can put the TC / ASR off and with good tyres and grip absolutely floor them.  As many do that do to the 1/4 mile strip with a car with a DQ200.

You appeared to be a little confused by my post.

What I was saying is that with any start in first gear there will be slip. If there wasn't the engine would just bog down and most likely stall. Slip is another word for engaging the clutch. Too much slip and you burn your clutch. Lovely smell. Too little slip and you risk stalling or bogging down when setting off.

To me the long known slip issue is all software related and poor programming from VAG.

The TCU is trying to work out on the fly from how much throttle is applied, how much torque is being requested of the engine. Them it has to work out how best to apply that to gear whilst maximising the cars launch and not causing it to stall or put too much strain on the gearbox. All that in a fraction of a second and then constatlntly monitoring it over and over many times. Knowing most car manufacturers they will always go with safer option and reduce the amount of strain on the gearbox by torque limits.  If you have ever driven auto Ferrari of old they were really bad for slip in first gear. But that was to stop people being too keen when maneuvering and crashing.

@Ecomatt

Not in my experience of driving various engine and DQ200 combination.

A roll and boot it is preferable but not always what you are going to do.  

Never had one bog yet be it a lowly 1.2 or a 1.0, 1.4, 1.5, 1.8 or 1.4 or 1.6 TDI's. 

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Do you actually drive and cars with a DQ200?   We will not include Ferrari's.

 

 

With a TMC Tuning box and a standard DQ200 DSG.

 

 

 

Edited 5 November, 20214 yr by roottoot

3 hours ago, ords said:

https://youtube.com/shorts/K2GHUVloXM0?feature=share

34 minutes ago, roottoot said:

@Ecomatt

Not in my experience of driving various engine and DQ200 combination.

A roll and boot it is preferable but not always what you are going to do.  

Never had one bog yet be it a lowly 1.2 or a 1.0, 1.4, 1.5, 1.8 or 1.4 or 1.6 TDI's. 

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Do you actually drive and cars with a DQ200?   We will not include Ferrari's.

 

 

With a TMC Tuning box and a standard DQ200 DSG.

 

 

 

I have driven cars the dq200 box. Personally did not find it any issue with it but that might be luck or before the issue presented itself

If it was my car I would be speaking to a tuning company and have an aftermarket tcu map applied once out of warranty.

The OP's car has a fault/ issue,

there is no need for the DQ200 to not change gear nicely and even get off from a standing start without slip or bogging, maybe just wheel spin.

If the wheels spin and the TC is on then the power might cut.

15 minutes ago, roottoot said:

The OP's car has a fault/ issue,

there is no need for the DQ200 to not change gear nicely and even get off from a standing start without slip or bogging, maybe just wheel spin.

If the wheels spin and the TC is on then the power might cut.

Hence why I said software issue. I would get rid of the factory tcu map and go with one that has proven to fix it. It won't matter how many times the car is taken back to Skoda because if that is all the software they can use, then they will just say it is working within manufacturer spec.

 

The factory management will be perfectly fine when a competent technician does their stuff. 

 It might not even of been the Dealership workshop that did the clutch packs, many put them out to an auto specialist, like Parks Skoda who can even get in a new MCU and not fit and set and ruin it and try to charge the customer for their error.

My buddy.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/444617-7sp-dq200-dsg-failure

 

Once fixed i would want to keep a Skoda / VW Extended warranty on the already failed box by buying another.

They can not say known issues as it has supposedly been repaired.

Edited 5 November, 20214 yr by roottoot

Very sad story and one downside to the DSG. Most garages (as we all know) don't have the mechanical understanding of the car. They all work from if broken go page 12. If working go to page 2 etc. Couples with the very complex nature of coding and what codes work or cause issues. Under that the software itself that powers the code etc. Cars are too complex now.