Hi, I have exchanged the forth Yeti that I have owned for a Karoq with DSG box owing to mobility problems with my left knee.

Can anyone point me to where I can obtain information as to driving techniques as applied to this box please?

many thanks

Iain

Have fun getting to know how it works best for you.

Only use 1 foot.

Select D and drive unless you want to use S or do manual changes. 

 

 Best read the Owners Manual,

& Read the various threads on Briskoda about driving with a DSG.   Enabeling or Disabling Autohold or Stop / Start etc/ 

Personally I like the Eco Mode. I am a gentle driver and like the way it "softens" the acceleration. 

I am not bothered re the coasting function.

 

tom

A bit of advice from someone who has gone through that same adaptation:

 

- don't try to jump into fast-moving traffic gaps yet (you need to learn how to compensate for the turbo lag),
- don't fret if DSG doesn't shift exactly when you manually would (meet the greenish driving style),
- switch to Sport mode for overtaking and boldly smash the gas pedal.

 

Enjoy your Karoq as I enjoy mine.  

 

Edited 4 February, 20224 yr by agedbriar

Until you are comfortable with believing it will work every time it is probably best to turn off stop start when waiting at a dodgy junction or roundabout to pull out into a small gap. And select sport mode for this manoeuvre by pulling back the selector as well if gaps are really small, particularly if in the excellent eco mode for normal driving. Swap back to normal or eco after safely out in the flow of traffic.

The very slight hesitation that seems to be there whilst the engine restarts can be off putting. In reality it works fine every time but even after 5 years of dsg I don’t like it.

You can always restart the car though whilst waiting by moving the steering wheel slightly though. However I find it so easy to turn stop/start on and off with the button, that is what I normally do as want it working at other times.

Edited 4 February, 20224 yr by kenfowler3966

6 hours ago, eton@30900 said:

... a Karoq with DSG box owing to mobility problems with my left knee.

Can anyone point me to where I can obtain information as to driving techniques as applied to this box please?

 

 

There's a slight adjustment when you first move over to an Automatic gearbox, but in my case, I found that within a day or two of driving it all just clicked into place. And I wished I'd moved to Automatic much sooner. It's so much easier than a Manual.

 

A few tips:

• Put the car into 'D' (or Eco) and leave it there when driving. I've never needed to use 'N' at all.
• Get comfortable with rocking the gear lever into 'S' sport mode for when you need a burst of power (eg, when overtaking) - if you skip to 02.25 in the video below it shows you how to do it.
• If your car has them, get comfortable with using the paddle shifters on your steering wheel while driving, again, useful, if you want to quickly drop down a gear.

 

 

 

 

Tip No.1 - switch off Stop/Start every time you start up.

Top No.2 - never, ever use Eco mode. Spawn of the devil.

 

As above, flip/flop from Normal to Sport mode now and then to give you that quicker overtake or take off at junctions and roundabouts.

 

**** around in other modes at your peril.

 

Life is even more fun with paddles for gear changes.

 

 

From one who has enjoyed DSG boxes for over 10 years, with a current Polo GTI to demonstrate what “nippy” really means.

 

And surprisingly, my dear OAP wife wholeheartedly agrees.

Thank you all for your contributions, I feel more confident already!

again, thank you

Iain

I nearly stoved mine in when I drove it for the first time of the dealerships forecourt into traffic (dual carriageway) when it was also raining. I came from an old style "planetary" auto box in my old Tiguan that had a lot more delay when you floored it to join fast moving traffic.  I had just driven 4 hours in the rain to collect it in the Tiguan and did not adapt my mind as it was (I thought) basically the same car. I didn't make that mistake again (yet). 

 

My tip:  If its wet/damp/cold then don't floor it to get into a smallish gap in the traffic - its very abrupt and unforgiving.  Learn to feather it a bit more than you might be used to.  

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by smipx

^^^ Before that stage you need to ask the Salesperson doing the hand over what the tyre pressures are and ask them to go get a tyre pressure gauge.

Be sure they are safe and not still at the In Transit setting, not having had the pressure reduced at the TPI.

 

Then as with all new cars or newly fitted tyres remember they are 'Green' and need running in and getting the newness off them. 

DQ200 7 speed dry clutch DSG

 

Today I had given a 1.0tsi DSG Fabia courtesy car, usually they give me a 1.0Tsi manual Fabia monte carlo which I find an unpleasant and rough experience. Having driven a slightly juddery 1.5tsi DSG Octavia 3 about 4 years ago I was expecting something similar to that. OK but the ludicrous antics with the handbrake at traffic lights put me off completely.

 

Today's experience almost made me change my mind, very smooth imperceptible changes, manouverable at slow speeds, impressed....that is, until I parked it back at the dealer. Reversed into a space, car pointing up a bit of an incline. After a walkaround I decided I was a little too far back, too close to the vehicle behind. So I got back in, started, into D, the car didn't crawl up the incline as maybe it was too steep, so a gentlest of throttle and the car shot forward. Sharp on the brake. Tried again with the tiniest bit of throttle and left foot on brake ready to moderate. Car shoots forward, and soon as I touch the brake stops dead, brake can't be used to moderate it seems. Maybe it can by some other method, but I can't be bothered to learn.

 

Fortunate that there was nothing in front of me.

 

Give me a torque converter box any day. For now I'll stick to manual.

This is hill hold / Autohold coming into play.

It does not release the brake until there is enough revs for the engine not to stall and that can mean it shoots forward quite alarmingly if you are on a slope and trying to do precise manouvers. It's a bit of "an art" to do a hill start or "slope start" to fine tune your position but you do get "kind of used to it" eventually.  Wait until you need to do a pull-out from an uphill junction into a stream of traffic in the damp.  Now that is ******* scary!!  Especially if you have Turanza's.  That's my main reason for doing such a lot of research on "All Season Tyres" in the hope that it will make it a bit safer 🙂

 

Sometimes - the car has a rudementary collision control mode for slow speed manovering too and that can sometimes do an emergency stop if you try to get too close  - that is equally scary and alarming but it's only happended to me once so far. 

 

If a pedestrian / cyclist / horse rider gets into the mix then God help you as more often than not the traction control will kick in (due to the lack of weight of the front end {engine} and the front wheel drive {in the 2WD}) and scare you and any passengers and any pedestrians and horses half to death at the same time. 

 

It will take some time to get used to so if you only have it for a day it can be a nightmare I would imagine. 

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by smipx

The Hand brake will not be an issue with a Karoq as it has an e-brake (self applying as and when or finger operated) & Autohold.

 

Left foot brake with a DSG is cutting power / drive which is why only use one foot and not accelerator and brake pedal. 

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by roottoot

To be fair I have had 3 Skoda DSGs, 2 Octavia and the Karoq and all have been easy to control at slow speed in forward or reverse.

My driveway is also very steep  but no problem, the auto brakes do at times bring me to an abrupt halt thinking I'm going to hit the garage.😂

I had a Citroen Piccasso auto some years ago, that was a pig.

DSG is really nothing like an Auto box of old. Its not as refined forgiving  (in my view) but it does not affect MPG and such like (I guess like an old Auto box did). My opinion is that it might not be for the nervous driver but for the boy racers amongst us it's great fun. You do need to relearn how to drive (safely) with it and understand all of the interventions that could/might occur (like Hill Hold/Autohold, Manoever assist, etc. etc.) and understand the way they will interract with your intentions.  I read the manual many times after my scare on day 1.  A DSG combined with all the gizmo's is not to be trusted in all scenarios without a full read of the manual in my opinion.

 

You did exactly the right thing asking here. A very sensible question and lots of answers and some very specific scenarios to consider and practice (especially for the seasoned driver that though he knew it all - like me).

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by smipx

20 minutes ago, Gomezz said:

To be fair I have had 3 Skoda DSGs, 2 Octavia and the Karoq and all have been easy to control at slow speed in forward or reverse.

My driveway is also very steep  but no problem, the auto brakes do at times bring me to an abrupt halt thinking I'm going to hit the garage.😂

I had a Citroen Piccasso auto some years ago, that was a pig.

But.... If your driveway was very steep and you were 2 foot from a wall and wanted to get a little closer in a controlled and safe manner. That's when it can get a bit scary if your car is new. Don't bother unless you really really have to 😁

I have learned to slow down on approach to my garage (downhill on a bend) and then crawl to the final stopping place.  No way on this God's earth would I want to try and inch closer once I have come to a full stop and Autohold had applied.  I also have to reverse up my drive on a bend every day and I am now totally used to it.  Would I let anyone else do it in my car of they were not 100% used to it? "no way pedro". Even if they were used to doing it in their manual car with an old fashioned handbrake - Nope!!  They don't know what its going to try and do and why - they don't know the "technique" to feather / control the throttle in that scenario without practice.  Let them practice on someone elses pride and joy.

 

I would reverse it up and around and then let the other person jump into the drivers seat and take it from there. 

 

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by smipx

Blue rinse ladies and learner drivers are all around the place driving DSG's quite well. 

5 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Blue rinse ladies and learner drivers are all around the place driving DSG's quite well. 

Careful - I can feel the blood rising in the WOKE brigade with that remark.   😂

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by smipx

There were at least 2 members on here did driving instruction with cars with DQ200 DSGs.

They both used Mk2 Fabia vRS and one went on to use a Polo GTI 1.8 TSI DSG. 

 Not sure if he then used his Polo 2.0TSI GTI / DSG.

https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/how-to-play-the-dsg-game-and-win-dsg-driving-tips-and-tricks.5989734/

The 9 year old thread has been linked lots over the years.

Relevant but a bit out of date for DQ200 DSG Vehicles with Autohold and e-Brakes these days and then with 1.5 TSI's with ACT.

There are new Skoda cars that still do have hand brakes though and no Autohold.

16 minutes ago, roottoot said:

The 9 year old thread has been linked lots over the years.

Relevant but a bit out of date for DQ200 DSG Vehicles with Autohold and e-Brakes these days and then with 1.5 TSI's with ACT.

There are new Skoda cars that still do have hand brakes though and no Autohold.

Like my Wife's Fabia 🙂

I hate driving it.

Anyone that thinks DSG is hard work only needs remind themselves / drive a 1.0TSi manual Fabia with an old style clutch and handbrake to know that they landed on their feet when they got a DSG in their Karoq.

 

Every time from 1st to 2nd it feels like its going to stall - the engine labours so much - it rarely does of course I just wince each time.  There seems to be far too much of a gap between 1st and 2nd gear (ratio).  Trying a hill climb / descent in it at slowish speeds (over the moors/up and down dale) in 1st/2nd/3rd/2nd/1st etc...  was probably the most miserable drive I have ever undertaken in the last 30 years. The wife stalled it several times and I could barely wrestle it into behaving like a normal car.   Any more revs and its undriveable (for my limited skills anyway) any less and it stalls. Not driven a manual daily for a while but plenty of loaners and never seen a car like it.  When I asked the garage to check the Fabia they told me it was all normal and fine.   Yet another one of those trips to the garage where I was made to feel like a Wazak!!

Edited 7 February, 20224 yr by smipx

I was actually talking about DQ200 DSG and hand brakes / parking brakes like with Mk3 Fabia, Scala & Kamiq.

I quite like them. 

 

Ahh OK cool.  Didn't realise you could have a DSG with a proper handbrake.  

I drive a 1.5tsi DSG Karoq with e-brake and a 1.5tsi DSG Kodiaq with e-brake and find the Kodiaq the easier to control at slow speeds. It could be that the e-brakes are different but somehow I doubt it. The only real difference is the gearbox - DQ200 vs DQ381. The DQ200 isn't as smooth.

 

The Kodiaq has 235x45x20 tyres, the Karoq 22x40x19. The Kodiaq doesn't have any issues but when new, it was almost impossible to stop the Karoq's front tyres from spinning. It took a few thousand miles for it to behave itself. I'm not the main driver of the Karoq but at just 10,000 miles I reckon there's about 2000 miles left in the fronts. It's only ever used around town so obviously wheelspin is still an issue. When I do drive it, it's noticable that under certain conditions, the engine in the Karoq revs higher than the Kodiaq. 

 

Could it be the dry clutch on the DQ200 that's the issue for peoples bad experiences?